What is the clock speed on new chip???
Fast. Like the fastest. Simply fantastically fast. The best fast in the world.
What is the clock speed on new chip???
The air doesn't feel much like an air these days at only .2 lb lighter.
They will segment the line by then into:So, what happens when they get to M7? Am I the only one bothered by the fact that this naming scheme has already used substantially?
Somebody else brought this, but seriously if the same chip in the Air is in the MB PRO...what makes the MB a PROFESSIONAL device? I know it has a fan but will the fan really gives that significance of a difference between an Air and a PRO work device!?
I pretty much agree.Likely around 3.2Ghz on burst.
I imagine apple doesn’t publish speeds because to the laymen they don’t look good compared to Intel and AMD chips. Especially to those who lived through the GHz wars.
Who said it was a professional device? What is a "professional" device? Which professional association do I need to be a member of in order to buy a MacBook Pro? Or do I just have to use it for paid work? If you can have professional golfers, are there professional Minecraft players?
"MacBook Pro" is just a trademark, folks. At best, it means "better than the one without 'pro' on the box".
In practical terms, I'd guess that having a fan and bigger battery means that this one can run the CPU at a higher clock speed for longer (power consumption/heat increases dramatically with clock speed) - but Apple haven't published that level of detail and the only speed claims they are making are vs. the previous two-port 13" MacBook Pro. It certainly looks like it is substantially faster than the 2-port Intel MBP it replaces (which had the same restrictions on max RAM and number of ports).
The rather thin (see what I did there?) distinction between the entry-level 13" MBP and the the MacBook Air has been a thing for a long time - so although I'm slightly surprised that it hasn't gone away with Apple Silicon, I guess Apple's market research people must have a vague idea of what they are doing.
No? I have a max spec'd 2020 13" Pro that handles heavy loads quite well right now. Neither of these are a replacement for that, which is why you can still purchase the higher spec MBP with Intel parts.If someone truly needs "sustained performance under heavy loads" shouldn't they be waiting for the updated Silicon iMac, Mac Pro, or 16" MBP (or buying the high end Intel versions if they can't wait?)
Um... Apple did, when they put the thing in their Macbook PRO line, and then wasted 15 minutes of a 45 minute presentation showing "professionals" oooo'ing and aaaahhhh'ing over the thing?Who said it was a professional device? What is a "professional" device? Which professional association do I need to be a member of in order to buy a MacBook Pro? Or do I just have to use it for paid work? If you can have professional golfers, are there professional Minecraft players?
"MacBook Pro" is just a trademark, folks. At best, it means "better than the one without 'pro' on the box".
In practical terms, I'd guess that having a fan and bigger battery means that this one can run the CPU at a higher clock speed for longer (power consumption/heat increases dramatically with clock speed) - but Apple haven't published that level of detail and the only speed claims they are making are vs. the previous two-port 13" MacBook Pro. It certainly looks like it is substantially faster than the 2-port Intel MBP it replaces (which had the same restrictions on max RAM and number of ports).
The rather thin (see what I did there?) distinction between the entry-level 13" MBP and the the MacBook Air has been a thing for a long time - so although I'm slightly surprised that it hasn't gone away with Apple Silicon, I guess Apple's market research people must have a vague idea of what they are doing.
I think that is indeed pretty much the idea, it sounds like driving the 6K display requires fan cooling, presumably so you don't start dropping frames when the chip has to self regulate itself for temperature. That also seems to be true with the Apple TV 4K, they've added a fan to that, presumably to ensure it can keep pushing out the 4K frames at a consistent frame rate.One thing I wonder is... The 13" M1 Macbook Pro has a fan, but the Air does not. This means that the M1 chip's thermals allow it to operate without a fan.
They have the same chip.
Does this mean that on the MBP, the fan will stay off most of the time and only come on during heavy load? It would be nice to have a laptop that runs fanless under light usage, but can maintain performance with a fan when necessary. It would also be nice to have a "quiet mode" that keeps the fan off and just throttles the CPU as necessary; this would be great for use in a recording studio situation.
Another good reason to keep the fan completely off under light load is reducing the amount of dust that gets in the machine. I bet the fanless Macbook Air will be a GREAT machine for dirty and dusty environments.
That's my thought as well, but I have to imagine that having a fan allows the M1 to run at higher frequencies and for a much longer duration. It will probably be a difference mainly seen on pro level tasks such as exporting video or exporting a large batch of edited RAW files. Things that are done over a longer timespan. I think even when the iPad wasn't sporting an X variant in the past, it still ran at a faster frequency. Now imagine how fast that iPad could run if it had a fan—not that I want the iPad to have a fan—but just imagine it. Now imagine it with at least double the thermal envelope (large enclosure) and a laptop-caliber fan. The thermal headroom on these efficient little 5nm chips is probably substantial when you add active cooling. Still yet to be seen. I think Apple didn't push it much on the MacBook Pro because they didn't want to marginalize the Air for not having a fan. I also think the Air is their best selling computer?Somebody else brought this, but seriously if the same chip in the Air is in the MB PRO...what makes the MB a PROFESSIONAL device? I know it has a fan but will the fan really gives that significance of a difference between an Air and a PRO work device!?
The fan so the cpu doesn’t slow downSomebody else brought this, but seriously if the same chip in the Air is in the MB PRO...what makes the MB a PROFESSIONAL device? I know it has a fan but will the fan really gives that significance of a difference between an Air and a PRO work device!?
I‘ll be a Pro because every time I hear that fan and look at my laptop I’ll see the word ”Pro”. And then I’ll know I’m truly a Pro* because I paid more money for basically the same machine as the Air. ‘Cos if that’s not Pro, what is? 🤔Somebody else brought this, but seriously if the same chip in the Air is in the MB PRO...what makes the MB a PROFESSIONAL device? I know it has a fan but will the fan really gives that significance of a difference between an Air and a PRO work device!?
I hope, for your sake, your "better half" handles the money in the family.Would pay extra for no touchbar.