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Apple Mac OS X Tiger Launch Events

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dmelgar said:
And the elitist exclusive Apple club can continue on its merry way. If Apple doesn't want folks to switch so be it. Bunch of folks wetting themselves over a minor update to an operating system, waiting in lines to pay full price for something they can buy anytime.
Apple makes a big deal about a launch party. There was no party. Come stand in line to see nothing going on and pay full price for a minor update. Give me a break! Way to piss off new prospective customers. Oh my gosh, someone trying to save money. That must be a crime. Apparently to be a member of the Apple club you have to be willing to spend loads of cash for unimproved hardware and software. Its insulting to even consider getting something at a discount. Snob hill I guess. Sorry I tried to append to the forum. Have to be in love with Apple to own one, no dissent allowed.
Apple acts like it doesn't need the business. That may well explain Apple staying at 2% market share. No wonder they can't get any momentum going.
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I wasn't making a big deal about wanting to save money, on the contrary, I'm all for that.
What I said was that at first he was willing to spend over $600 dollars for a mini with Panther, and then he refused to spend them on the mini with *free* Tiger once he heard about the opportunity of a 10% discount besides including Tiger. It just comes to show that the more some people get, the more they demand should be given to them. Greedy...

And I can't believe that people are whining about keychains and T-shirts when you could have gotten a Dual G5 with a $200-$300 discount. I wish I could have gone to pick up a new 20" screen for $720...
I bet people who did buy hardware with their 10% discount were more than happy.
 
witness said:
I missed out on the launch party, but I'm thinking of going by the London store tomorrow and picking up a PowerBook.

Does anyone know if I go and get one, will it come with a free copy of Tiger or will that have to be purchased separately?
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I'd also like to know the answer to this, cos I'm planning on going to London on Monday to pick up a Powerbook too. Let me know how you get on! Maybe you can negotiate with them to bundle it with Tiger if they don't already supply it? After all, a Powerbook costs a lot of money...
 
C'mon...io_burn

C'mon, I wasn't crying. I was simply stating that I was glad that I didn't make a 4 hour 1 way drive to Houston for what has generally been labled as a not so great experience.
I am glad that I didn't drive so far to be disappointed.

I am a liitle peturbed that it will take Amazon 3 to 4 weeks to get me my copy of Tiger though.

But no tears...see no tears. :D
 
witness said:
I missed out on the launch party, but I'm thinking of going by the London store tomorrow and picking up a PowerBook.

Does anyone know if I go and get one, will it come with a free copy of Tiger or will that have to be purchased separately?
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Yes, Tiger will come with all new computer purchases. It probably won't be pre-installed, but there will be a disc (DVD?) in the box for you. This is according to the Apple store employee.

Was about to pick up a 15" SuperDrive PowerBook myself, but was told they weren't doing a 10 percent sale unless it was on your scratcher so I left. Apple lost out on a $2,000+ sale. Might have even walked out with a new 2.3GHz G5 PowerMac as well. I'm taking it as a sign to wait until WWDC or MacWord Paris or....?
 
sw1tcher said:
Yes, Tiger will come with all new computer purchases. It probably won't be pre-installed, but there will be a disc (DVD?) in the box for you. This is according to the Apple store employee.

Was about to pick up a 15" SuperDrive PowerBook myself, but was told they weren't doing a 10 percent sale unless it was on your scratcher so I left. Apple lost out on a $2,000+ sale. Might have even walked out with a new 2.3GHz G5 PowerMac as well. I'm taking it as a sign to wait until WWDC or MacWord Paris or....?
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Thanks for the response.

I have been holding off for so long I can't wait any longer. I don't really care if Tiger is preinstalled or not, so long as it's in the box.

IF something really good (ie new PowerBooks) turns up at WWDC or Paris Expo then I can always trade it in.
 
sw1tcher said:
Was about to pick up a 15" SuperDrive PowerBook myself, but was told they weren't doing a 10 percent sale unless it was on your scratcher so I left. Apple lost out on a $2,000+ sale. Might have even walked out with a new 2.3GHz G5 PowerMac as well.
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You should have asked an employee if you could get the discount without the card. My scratch card was for a Spotlight keychain, but when I told a clerk I wanted to buy a PowerBook and that I wanted 10% off, he gave it to me. (Got 10% off an Airport Express too!)

Even if they'd told you "no," I'm sure you could've found somebody who wasn't going to use their 10% off scratch card who'd be willing to give it to you.

It never hurts to ask. I did and saved $235 (and change). :)
 
Where's Drew? said:
You should have asked an employee if you could get the discount without the card. My scratch card was for a Spotlight keychain, but when I told a clerk I wanted to buy a PowerBook and that I wanted 10% off, he gave it to me. (Got 10% off an Airport Express too!)

Even if they'd told you "no," I'm sure you could've found somebody who wasn't going to use their 10% off scratch card who'd be willing to give it to you.

It never hurts to ask. I did and saved $235 (and change). :)
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Actually, I did ask a sales associate if I'd be able to get 10 percent off a PowerBook like at the Panther launch. He said no, that they weren't offering any discounts this time, but if I was a student I'd be able to get that discount via online since they weren't doing edu. discounts in store that night.

I hadn't thought about asking someone for their 10 percent off card though. The place was so packed that I just left.
 
Where's Drew? said:
Even if they'd told you "no," I'm sure you could've found somebody who wasn't going to use their 10% off scratch card who'd be willing to give it to you.
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When I gave my spare 10% off scratcher to somebody in line, it took me few tries to find somebody who could use it. It seemed that almost everyone had a 10% off one themselves or was buying only Tiger, for which the 10% didn't apply. It took me 5 tries to find somebody who could benefit from it.

Since I had 10% off on any single transaction, I made one BIG purchase. Here's a photo of me leaving with it:

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(OK, just kidding, that's not really me. While waiting in line, I had fun taking photos as the Apple staff brought in all the extra stock for the night. That's a delivery guy.)
 

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You can take widgets out of dashboard. Open dashboard "F13" or whatever you have it assigned to. Drag out a new widget but don't let go. Push F13 again to hide the widgets and then release the widget on the desktop. Great for calculator since you might want to see the number outside of dashboard. When you re-activate dashboard the escaped widget re joins its kin.

Tiger is really good. People saying it's a minor update are mistaken. Panther was a minor update. Spotlight is the new Finder we've been waiting for. The new previewing stuff for images is amazing. It seems like magic and that is how you know it's good. And I can finally sync my V600 over Bluetooth! :)
 
Oh, does anyone have an extra of either of these from the Tiger Release Party? If you have an extra one that I could maybe have, that'd be great considering how my apple store only have the sratch tickets and I won an iTunes song :eek: :mad:



Spotlight keychain

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Dashboard window static cling

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S_S said:
You can take widgets out of dashboard. Open dashboard "F13" or whatever you have it assigned to. Drag out a new widget but don't let go. Push F13 again to hide the widgets and then release the widget on the desktop. Great for calculator since you might want to see the number outside of dashboard. When you re-activate dashboard the escaped widget re joins its kin.

Tiger is really good. People saying it's a minor update are mistaken. Panther was a minor update. Spotlight is the new Finder we've been waiting for. The new previewing stuff for images is amazing. It seems like magic and that is how you know it's good. And I can finally sync my V600 over Bluetooth! :)
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Ok, I'll give the dashboard thing yet another try. I didn't get the bit about "but don't let go" the widget in the earlier post describing how to do this.

I'll note that in Andy Ihnatko's MacObserver review he complains about the same thing, and he claims that he's been using dashboard "for months and months." By the way where is dashboard help? When you are in dashboard world there is no help menu... I tried to search for help on this in spotlight but didn't see anything promising.

Even assuming this does work, I don't think it's an overstatement to say that there are some serious unresolved UI issues with dashboard.

For me, Expose was perhaps the most significant UI improvement in mainstream computer OSes of the past decade... it had a significant impact on my productivity. However, I haven't played much with smart folders and I can see that as being something transformative as well.

By the way, what are you referring to when you say "the new previewing stuff for images is amazing"?
 
I stopped in Tysons and at a reseller near my parents place. I was more impressed with the people at the reseller, but maybe that hadmore to do with the guy at the Apple store that looked at me like I was insane/stupid/retarded when I asked about the Seminar email (it hadn't arrived in my inbox when I had last checked my mail). I left thoroughly offended. The the folks at Absolute MAc in G'burg - it was a great show you all had going on. Was a nice family atmosphere.
 
dmelgar said:
I went to the Tiger event prepared to walk out with a my first Mac, a decked out Mini using the 10% discount everyone said would be in effect.

Instead I got a free itunes song. Big whoop. And they wouldn't give me another card.

What a complete waste. They give 10% discounts to people who have no interest in buying anything, and me wanting to spend a thousand dollars can't get the discount. All it does is create ill will.

I've been trying to buy a Mini from the store in NC since January. They always manage to convince me not to buy. In February I wanted to buy, but they said you couldn't add wireless to the Mini's they had. Told me to order online. Then Tiger was coming out, figured I'd wait for it to be announced to avoid the $130 charge. Go to the store after announce and they were out of the decked out model that had told me they now stock. So I left again. Then heard about the 10% off, might as well wait for that. Go back to the store, to find no discount and no one particularly interested in selling me a system.

I give. Maybe a PC isn't so bad afterall, no problem walking into a store getting what I want.

I must admit too that as a stockholder, I was underwhelmed. Apple can't afford to be making this type of collosal marketing blunder. The stock price is too high for this type of mistake. Encourages me to ditch the stock before more iPod competitors come around.
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So let's get this straight, you walked into a store expecting to get a discount... a discount that is won on scratch cards...and you didn't get one so you're sad.

Not just sad...you blame the company for not giving you a discount. Further, you infer that you would be able to get said handout at a PC retailer on a regular basis. Wait, there's more, you were not given a second card (something you were not entitled to) and therefore feel that the stock price is going to tank.

I don't know about you George, but I'm convinced.

And the elitist exclusive Apple club can continue on its merry way. If Apple doesn't want folks to switch so be it. Bunch of folks wetting themselves over a minor update to an operating system, waiting in lines to pay full price for something they can buy anytime.
Apple makes a big deal about a launch party. There was no party. Come stand in line to see nothing going on and pay full price for a minor update.
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Minor update , eh? Service Pack 2 was a minor update.
 
doesn't everyone buy BTO?

For a company that discounts so infrequently, 10% off sound pretty good, whether it's across the board or with a scratch-off promotion. However, I'm not sure how I'd spend the discount in store. If I bought an iPod, I'd want engraving. If I bought a notebook, I'd want a bigger hard drive. If I bought a Mac mini, I'd want Bluetooth. Almost everything I want is only available as a build-to-order configuration, direct from Taiwan.

I'm a little interested in iWork, but I'm waiting for the family pack. By the way, I thought it was interesting, in light of this AppleInsider story, that the Tiger box includes an iWork trial. I know Apple wants to increase its software revenue, but maybe it should bundle iWork with Macs.
 
I went to the Northridge Apple store in California. I live by the one in LA, but decided not to go because I thought it was going to be crowded. I just picked up the scratcher and left; just won an iTMS song.

Fishes,
narco.
 
"recent" switcher, and macrumors newbie

i had convinced two of my buddies to go w/ me to the party when i won a pair of tickets to see Weezer @ the warfield in frisco! sorry apple, but i <3 rivers cuomo! haha.

stopped by the frisco apple store around 10:45 pm, got 10% card, and free itunes (my bf gave me his card) then we scurried our butts to the stanford shopping ctr store and walked in at 11:45 pm. all the employees ignored us for like 2 mins and then one came over and handed both of us 3-4 cards each.

although it would have rocked if we won something "bigger," i'm damn pleased with my 6 free songs!!! :D

saved up all last summer and got a 12" pb at the end of summer... eversince, my pc desktop has not been turned on... and am EAGERLY anticipating the revised iMac (hee, i get a new iMac and daddy gets my old but rather new pc, woo hoo!).
 
So maybe I'm crazy, but those trailers don't play smoothly.

I have a dual 1.8 G5 with 2.5GB of ram and a RAID 0 array, and the aimee mann and batman begins videos are running something less than 20fps.

my single processor 1.8ghz athlon will upscale DVD to 1920x1080p while applying half a dozen filters, and it holds better frame rates than this. And my G5 usually does better than the athlon does with video. Is this part of the new miracle codec? because I bought quicktime 7 pro and if i'm going to have to close all my (2) running programs to get smooth video...if then...then I want my 30 dollars back.

ugh. Maybe it's just buggy? Do I need a patch or something?
 
More on widgets outside of dashboard...

When I say hold on to the widget I mean drag it out of the widget dock and don't let go of the mouse, stay clicked. Hit f12 or whatever key you have setup to access dashboard. Dashboard will go away but the widget will still be held by the clicked mouse. release the mouse and th wideget drops on the desktop. I agree that widgets need some tweaking interface wise. You should be able to CLOSE one without OPENING the widget dock. That makes no sense. I'm sure dashboards will evolve just like everything else.

The image preview stuff that impresses me is the access to slideshows everywhere. To spotlight for images and then be able veiw a contact sheet or full screen slide show. Everything smooth and everything anti-aliased without going to iPhoto.
 
S_S said:
You should be able to CLOSE one without OPENING the widget dock. That makes no sense.
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Hold down option and move the mouse over a widget. The X will appear even if the dock is not open, and you can close the widget.
 
benpatient said:
So maybe I'm crazy, but those trailers don't play smoothly.

I have a dual 1.8 G5 with 2.5GB of ram and a RAID 0 array, and the aimee mann and batman begins videos are running something less than 20fps.
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Plays just fine on my dual 2Ghz G5 system (always at 24fps even when dragging or resizing). What video adapter you have? I have a 6800 GT with 256MB.

Tried both the 1080p and 720p versions.
 
Doctor Q said:
When I gave my spare 10% off scratcher to somebody in line, it took me few tries to find somebody who could use it. It seemed that almost everyone had a 10% off one themselves or was buying only Tiger, for which the 10% didn't apply. It took me 5 tries to find somebody who could benefit from it.
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I wish that I had been in your line Doctor Q. ;) Just as I thought, if Apple had offered the 10% discount the same as Panther from reading above. I think that Apple would have encouraged a lot more sales. Didn't realize till I got home that someone had got the discount just by asking.
 
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