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Apple Make a 7" iPad Please
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Because if only 15 Apple lovers bought it, it'd be a HUGE disaster for Apple. And can their market support both sizes, AND the iTouch/iPhone? Very serious business questions Apple has to consider.
Mad Mac Maniac
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Read again: full sized PDF books, especially multi-column ones. Just try it.
you read it again. PDF / books.
maybe you aren't familiar with how slashes work. They work like an "or". They aren't some magic symbol that you can remove and replace without changing the meaning. You said that 7" screens can't be used for reading PDF's or for reading books. I don't even know what a PDF book is, I'm guessing an ebook that is made out of PDF docs so they just shrink smaller instead of running on to the next page.Sure a PDF page that was designed for a 10" screen would be difficult to read shrunk down on a 7" screen. Does that mean that the size shouldn't be made?
IF the size becomes popular, PDF's could be designed to be viewed on 7" screens. Also you can zoom in on PDF's. And why would you buy a PDF book instead of a normal ebook anyways?
Instead of trying to look for excuses for why you don't think it would work on the existing infrastructure. Take a step back and realize how useful it could be to a lot of people if the proper infrastructure gets put in place.
you read it again. PDF / books.
Sure a PDF page that was designed for a 10" screen would be difficult to read shrunk down on a 7" screen. Does that mean that the size shouldn't be made?
IF the size becomes popular, PDF's could be designed to be viewed on 7" screens. Also you can zoom in on PDF's. And why would you buy a PDF book instead of a normal ebook anyways?
Instead of trying to look for excuses for why you don't think it would work on the existing infrastructure. Take a step back and realize how useful it could be to a lot of people if the proper infrastructure gets put in place.
Dude, you have some points but you're also showing no comprehension whatsoever about the PDF point. People don't necessarily buy PDF books, but many documents, especially anything business related, comes in PDFs, normally letter-sized pages. They DO NOT WORK WELL on smaller screens. I had a Kindle DX with a 9.7 inch screen before I replaced it with an iPad, and the screen aspect ratio made reading letter-sized PDFs clumsy at best. They simply don't fit the screen unless you zoom out far enough to make the text unreadable. The iPad's screen ratio works perfectly with them, however. Doesn't mean that there couldn't be a 7-inch version too if there were big enough market for it, but don't try to make points about something you clearly know nothing about.
seriously? He's not talking strength wise, he's saying that without the bezel, there would be no way to hold it with one hand without your thumb touching the screen.
I tried a colleagues Playbook and find 7" too small for typing. It's ok at best for normal use, but it's too wide when held vertically for thumb typing for any amount of time, and it's too short in landscape to type with two hands.
Mad Mac Maniac
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Ok so your argument is that PDF's don't work too well on a 7" screen? ok... I agreed to that.
But I also pose the question if that means a 7" tablet shouldn't be made. How much of the time do you spend on your iPad reading PDF's? If your answer is anything higher than 10% I'll be awstruck.
why are you talking about your DX's aspect ratio? That's not the discussion
You say I clearly no nothing about it, but your ONLY relavant arument is because PDF's would be shrunk and it would be hard to read. Which I conceded. But also discussed the possibility of zoom. How many text intensive web pages are the perfect size when you initially load them? I'll bet you are zooming in all over the place, because web pages are designed for screens 13"-20". Does that mean the iPad is bad for surfing the web?
edit: Also I view PDF's on my 3.5" iPhone all the time. Never once complained
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I can say that I would have no interest in a 7 inch model. It would not fit in a pocket, so it has the same portability as an iPad for how I would use it. So, if I am going to carry it around, I might as well have the larger model.
That being said, I still think it would sell. The size may be better for children or people with very small hands than a 9.7 inch model. For gaming, which is how a lot of people use their iPads, it might be a better fit for some racing style games.
The question is whether it would just eat into the sales numbers of other models and if it would be worthwhile for Apple? I have no idea, but I am guessing that Apple has looked at that scenerio and concluded that the market wasn't ready for it at this time.
That being said, I still think it would sell. The size may be better for children or people with very small hands than a 9.7 inch model. For gaming, which is how a lot of people use their iPads, it might be a better fit for some racing style games.
The question is whether it would just eat into the sales numbers of other models and if it would be worthwhile for Apple? I have no idea, but I am guessing that Apple has looked at that scenerio and concluded that the market wasn't ready for it at this time.
Because both iPad and DX have 9.7 inch screens (I think), and yet even the DX screen doesn't work as well because of the aspect ratio. The advantage of the iPad's screen isn't just the size itself, but the aspect ratio. I considered a Xoom before buying the iPad, but I decided that the iPad better suited my needs. Part of that decision was because of the shape of the screen.
I personally don't need it as much for PDFs as writing, but regardless of that, zooming and scrolling left to right as well as up and down is far from the ideal way to read a PDF, so the point with that is that for those who do have the need to use it for that, it doesn't work well. I had several manuals in PDF on my Kindle, and they were a pain to read for that very reason. The iPad suits them much better.
I asked how you would hold a bezel-less iPad with one hand.
Seriously.
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To be 7" and make sense, the display would need to have a 16:9 ration instead of 4:3 as the current iPad, iPhone and iPod. Otherwise it may be a bulky rectangle.
SJ said no 7" iPads but, who knows, it may happen in the future.
I just don't see the advantage to it.
I think the size of the iPad display is just right.
SJ said no 7" iPads but, who knows, it may happen in the future.
I just don't see the advantage to it.
I think the size of the iPad display is just right.
If you want a 7" tablet look elsewhere.
I for one am glad Apple stick to one premium product love or hate it. Everybody wants an Ipad or Iphone.
By all means have your "Android which is like an Ipad/Iphone just kinda cheaper".
I for one am glad Apple stick to one premium product love or hate it. Everybody wants an Ipad or Iphone.
By all means have your "Android which is like an Ipad/Iphone just kinda cheaper".
A simple response that misses my point entirely.
Tablets are obviously meant to be smaller than laptops since you don't need a keyboard and are meant to be more portable.
My point is that tablet (really touch computing) from Apple starts at 3.5" with the iPod/iPhone and ends with 9.7" with the iPad. There's no reason why they wouldn't add a smaller iPad or even a larger iPod/iPhone to the mix.
They currently have 4 screen sizes for MacBooks and as this market grows as large as the laptop market, expect them to insure they don't miss a single buyer. That's just good business.
Again, options are good! Computers, cars, laptops, etc. Two sizes does not fit all.
Not expecting a mid range
I do not expect Apple to be creating a midsize device with the current model of iPad2 doing so well. While I can see why someone would want a 7 inch model, I think Apple made the right decision to stick to the 9.7 inch size of the iPad. I tend to think of my iPad as a very light notebook computer and only turn on my MacBook when I went to use a site that requires flash.
Otherwise I browse the web on my iPad.
I do not expect Apple to be creating a midsize device with the current model of iPad2 doing so well. While I can see why someone would want a 7 inch model, I think Apple made the right decision to stick to the 9.7 inch size of the iPad. I tend to think of my iPad as a very light notebook computer and only turn on my MacBook when I went to use a site that requires flash.
Otherwise I browse the web on my iPad.
imho, that's not a very good design when you can only hold the device like a tray.
maybe they can have a sorta "virtual" bezel that you have the option to disable/remove when running certain apps like movie watching apps. just my 2c
I agree with the OP. I wanted a 7 inch tablet for portability so I picked up a Playbook. It's a very nice tablet. With some updates I think Rim will have a winner on there hands. Flash works very well on it. I would like see Apple come out with a smaller choice.