If I could return the two iPhone 8's I purchased for my husband and myself I know I would. They need to fix the root of this problem and stop the throttling before I lay out any more money that's for sure.
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Apple Makes $29 Battery Replacements Available Immediately for iPhone 6 and Newer
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If I could return the two iPhone 8's I purchased for my husband and myself I know I would. They need to fix the root of this problem and stop the throttling before I lay out any more money that's for sure.
current market cap approaching $900B, so yeah it appears like they're getting more out of it than they put in
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Price tends to be more a function of demand vs supply than just cost with a percentage margin slapped on top of it. Apple likely knows that given the option, more people still prefer to get this sort of repair work done at their own stores for the ease of mind, convenience and accountability and their inflated price likely reflects this.
Well what about us that sold our phones because of the unit was getting slow??? Got damn Apple!!
Apple is not manufacturing those batteries, it is impossible to check all of them if they meet the specifications. Why does it always have to be some evil plan?
maybe there's a tinge of evil when they keep the throttling secret for almost a year, and only admit to it after being found out, they would have kept it secret for sure
The price of a cellphones battery - including larger production of Cobalt (for Li-Polymer; I used to work for the largest producer in the globe) hasn't really changed in over 10yrs.
Nokia
Motorola
HTC
Huwaei
SonyEricsson/Sony
etc
Show me one instance where even a replaceable battery (Nickel Metal Hydride or Li-Ion/polymer) has increased in price since it was launched - heck try even internal battery costs to be replaced? Supply has just about always been above supply ... manufacturers of phones usually have more than a 1:1 stock of batteries for phones as users will and most likely require a replacement during the lifespan of the sum of the internal components of a phone. The part you listed in Bold ... I cannot deny as I personally would as well. Still doesn't mean I cannot have an issue on the cost
Cheers.
Agreed...
- iPhone 8/8+/X will not qualify by the end of 2018 for a $29 battery exchange even though our phones are marked for future throttling
Exchanging batteries doesn't fix the issue, it just delays the symptoms. Throttling needs to stop and the engineers need to put in proper batteries.
I think the main issue here is the size of the battery. Apple kept putting smaller and smaller batteries in these phones thinking that they could engineer some magic into it and have the THINNEST device. I believe higher capacity batteries (and slightly thicker phones) would have avoided this whole mess. It would have needed less power management trickery, less throttling, etc. I remember the keynotes where they would imply that their clever engineering did away with the need for bigger batteries
Suggest anyone in your situation to get a printout of Apple test results. That way if it turns out they're lying again you have evidence to seek reimbursement. If they refuse a print out then that should tell you something. Apple don't profit from defective replacement so it's not surprising they'll weasel their way out of it and the $29 price drop could be just for PR.
Except Samsung first did a voluntary recall. It wasn’t an official recall until 2 weeks later made by the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/samsungs-management-of-recall-wounds-companys-image-1473928872
One scandal can kill you, the other scandal slows down your phone.
I think the main issue here is the size of the battery. Apple kept putting smaller and smaller batteries in these phones thinking that they could engineer some magic into it and have the THINNEST device. I believe higher capacity batteries (and slightly thicker phones) would have avoided this whole mess. It would have needed less power management trickery, less throttling, etc. I remember the keynotes where they would imply that their clever engineering did away with the need for bigger batteries
But the issue isn’t capacity, it’s the voltage needed during bursts of heavy tasks.
They apparently not talking about throttling process which slows down the mobile during new mobile launch, when battery efficiency goes down, when the Apple Care/warranty is still in force!
There are combinations at work while Apple trying to create smoke screen it as Battery replacement program that too if you have signed up for Apple Care.
Clever ploy but let's see how far buyers get fooled
There are combinations at work while Apple trying to create smoke screen it as Battery replacement program that too if you have signed up for Apple Care.
Clever ploy but let's see how far buyers get fooled
Proper voltage and amperage are both critical and tied to capacity. I've had car batteries go bad after about 5 years where it was still showing proper voltage output but couldn't turn the starter motor or wind down the power windows because some of the cells died and dropped the amperage. With how Apple undersizes their battery capacity, perhaps intentionally to design for early obsolescence, there's no buffer for voltage and amperage degradation due to aging and cold weather after 1 year. Fix simply is to have higher capacity batteries but that means people will keep their phones longer so less profitable to Apple.
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I have a 6 and new battery or not it is amazingly slow. Just starting Facebook take about 7 seconds while any super cheap android phone takes couple seconds.
Maybe are the app developers to be blamed but let's keep in mind it has only 1 GB of Ram.
The fact Apple always uses just enough RAM is unfortunately keeping longevity law.
not looking for Flames, please
I get it about the battery issues. My question is: How does the battery have anything to do with Apple slowing down the older phones? Yes the battery may last a shorter amount of time with aging. Purposely slowing down the software is a very different thing...... My two cents.... go figure...
Wrong. Many cases have been posted about Apple refusing to replace a battery, even when offering to pay the $79.
I do not think this battery story really relates to slowing down the phones on purpose, yes they throttle the CPU to avoid Peaks but that is to avoid the phone to shut down because the battery is to be replaced.
Clearly they should have had an alert to the user to replace the battery and have the price reasonable from the start!
this story exploded on their face
It sounds as if you're giving up. You're using up your outrage now, and when your new phone's battery degrades in a couple of years, you won't do anything about it.
This is a PR nightmare for Apple. I expect they'll do what it takes to make it right, beyond 2018. Because even though you seem resigned to do nothing if it happens to your phone in the future, other people will not be so complacent.
I expect they're working on better software fixes, better batteries, and better PR spin in equal measure. Perhaps they'll do a battery recall (as they did with some iPhone 5 units), when and if these problems start showing up in 2017 model iPhones.
Since this is a paid for service even for phones that is already out of warranty. If a phone is previously repaired by a 3rd party, can we still pay the $29 for the battery to be replaced by Apple?
Clearly, you should try reading the article.
I’m here too, but expect they just need time to update. The Swiss Apple store has always been slower than the rest of the world.
Glad I’m not you. That’s pocket change in these parts.