Ok, then the question becomes why does the iPhone 6s need to be throttled to prevent sudden shutdowns but iPhone 5s and older and all iPads don't need to be throttled when they have old batteries. The current iPad has the same a9 chip as iPhone 6s models.
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Ok, then the question becomes why does the iPhone 6s need to be throttled to prevent sudden shutdowns but iPhone 5s and older and all iPads don't need to be throttled when they have old batteries. The current iPad has the same a9 chip as iPhone 6s models.
You are incorrect . For apple to take you $79 - the battery must fail the test. This has been confirmed by members across many threads on this issue.
I suggest you confirm this, cause you will look very silly if you keep mocking me over this.....
Size of batteries would be the simple answer. The iPad has a far larger battery, so while powering the same chip it wouldn't potentially see the peaks and valleys a smaller battery would.
Feel the same.
To be honest I felt the same before any of this even case to light. I skipped the X but upgraded to the iPhone 8 and have got a 2016 15 inch MacBook Pro but the ever increasing prices and rapid;y declining quality were driving me away anyway, this battery issue just adds insult to injury.
I'm in the Uk aswell so yeah, WhatsApp. Probably use it more than iMessage already tbh.
May you show me those threads where Apple denied to change the battery because it still was "healthy" even if the customer specifically insisted AND was willing to pay the $79 fee? I am pretty sure you are simply confusing this with cases where customers felt they are eligible to have it changed within warranty - because in their eyes it has to be replaced where the diagnostic tool says something different. Or they are just telling ********.
Apple will happily take your money for any of their list-price repairs they earn good money with.
On another forum members ran tests, and the iPhone 6S throttled even over 80% , while the iPad remained at a constant speed.
I suspect the iPad power management does not have issues with poor batteries. Other iPhones previously also did not shutdown when the battery was old, seems engineering got their design wrong on 6 and 6s
I'm curious to know what people think happens on a device when they see the phrase "Power Management", for example as relates to what was discussed back when iOS 10.2.1 was released to address the shutdowns? For me, it always has meant "Monkeying with CPU and GPU since they are so power hungry" and is similar to how laptops on battery power are managed (switching between dGPU,iGPU for example).
I think Apple should have explained at the time, in a support doc maybe, that Power Management = "Monkeying with CPU and GPU since they are so power hungry". Also, they should have put more smarts into the algorithm than is immediately apparent (it seems rather brute force).
I think Apple should have explained at the time, in a support doc maybe, that Power Management = "Monkeying with CPU and GPU since they are so power hungry". Also, they should have put more smarts into the algorithm than is immediately apparent (it seems rather brute force).
The iPhone 5s has a lower speed processor core. The arm64 core in the 6s can likely be clocked up to several much faster and more power hungry modes. iPads have much larger (thus much lower impedance, even when old) Li-ion batteries.
More editorializing alongside reporting. Thanks for that, Joe.
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I tried to scan through all of the posts but I'm not sure what constitutes a battery fail. Is it just full capacity under 80% or do they have to go through more testing? Mine is at 76% of original capacity and will shut down under 5%, sometimes 10% if it's working hard. Thanks in advance for your help, don't want to go through the hassle of heading to an apple store and find out it didn't fail their test.
Just wait for January when Apple will include battery info into iOS. This - or an official Apple diagnostic test on your device - will be the binding value. Results by third-party apps like Coconut can give good estimates, but - especially at the edge of 80% - are not binding.
It might be good if you read a few of these threads and add some constructive feedback ? Do it on your time please, I'm not digging through over 200 pages of debate ....
it's also possible the A7 or 5s doesn't have the internal hardware to work with the power/throttling routines Apple is able to use with an A8 or above.
I would - if those threads existed and were reliable. Again and for the last time: Apple will happily take your $79 for a normal, non-discounted iPhone battery change if you insist on it - no matter which condition.
It boils down to the ability of the battery to provide voltage for peak power. The smaller iPhone batteries don't have as much overhead for that as larger iPad batteries.
These apps are getting the info from the iPhone firmware , coconut reads it from the same place as apple diagnostics does .
All January will bring is that value to iOS, you can get it now.....
You can do whatever you want to do to your phone. You can smash it with a hammer and Apple can't or won't stop you. You can replace the battery yourself. Go ahead - Apple will do nothing (nor will they know nor care !!).
I got my replaced two weeks ago upon hearing the battery issue. Full price
How long did the replacement take? Did they do it on the spot?
This is getting tiring...
Apple is guilt-tripping us to give up the outrage with these staggered 'gifts'.
Nothing has changed:
- the iPhones were under-designed at the battery, unable to power the CPU
- they are still expecting us to pay for their coverup and mass recall
- newer iPhones will still throttle after about a year
- iPhones with replaced battery will again throttle after a year
- iPhones with low battery charge (not health) will still throttle
- iPhones above 80% battery health will still throttle and we will be denied any service to the battery since it's above 80%
- the throttling will still be permanent regardles of moment-to-moment conditions
- absolutely no goodwill to those tricked into upgrading to a newer iPhone
- we will still not get an option in iOS for wether to throttle or not
- the scam and coverup is not acknowledged at all
I'll edit the post if more comes to mind.
Apple is guilt-tripping us to give up the outrage with these staggered 'gifts'.
Nothing has changed:
- the iPhones were under-designed at the battery, unable to power the CPU
- they are still expecting us to pay for their coverup and mass recall
- newer iPhones will still throttle after about a year
- iPhones with replaced battery will again throttle after a year
- iPhones with low battery charge (not health) will still throttle
- iPhones above 80% battery health will still throttle and we will be denied any service to the battery since it's above 80%
- the throttling will still be permanent regardles of moment-to-moment conditions
- absolutely no goodwill to those tricked into upgrading to a newer iPhone
- we will still not get an option in iOS for wether to throttle or not
- the scam and coverup is not acknowledged at all
I'll edit the post if more comes to mind.
I had a case of a failing MacBook battery - Coconut already showed only ~76% health, the official Apple diagnostic tool still showed 80,03% (and the green "good" symbol). I still had to wait a few weeks longer until Apple was willing to replace the battery under Apple Care. So, no - you are wrong again.