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I think just the mere fact of logging into the developer website with your appleID triggers the ability to download the beta.
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Apple Makes Developer Betas Free to Download and Install
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I think just the mere fact of logging into the developer website with your appleID triggers the ability to download the beta.
Yep, especially for iOS 7. Everyone wanted that redesign NOW. I remember how mind-blowing it felt to have it (and how much worse it made my iPhone 4S run lol).
Steve121178
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The majority likely can’t or isn’t interested in learning how to, create actionable bug reports, though. 🙂
I presume the main reason for this change is so that developers who will (eventually) distribute their apps outside of the Apple app store can still access the iOS betas for said development purposes.
Although it does make you wonder if there’ll be 3 different tiers in the end; the current 2 tiers, and a 3rd tier that has some of the Apple Developer Program tier features, but at a much higher one-off cost (to account for out of App Store distribution).
So it might be free for limited features, £99/year for Apple App Store distribution and one off £10,000 for out of App Store distribution, or something like that.
Although it does make you wonder if there’ll be 3 different tiers in the end; the current 2 tiers, and a 3rd tier that has some of the Apple Developer Program tier features, but at a much higher one-off cost (to account for out of App Store distribution).
So it might be free for limited features, £99/year for Apple App Store distribution and one off £10,000 for out of App Store distribution, or something like that.
Steve121178
macrumors 604
Sure, but they'll whinge when something is broken, highlighting problems. Like I said, the more people testing the better. You can never have enough.
This 100%. I feel sorry for the AppleCare team that has to triage the Feedbacks now that Apple made it so easy for anyone to download the first few betas.
Plus, those of us who are filing feedback for real issues, will have to wait for the team to sort through the useless feedbacks.
Highlighting problems, yes, but with no information provided that can actually help the problem get resolved. Whingeing on social media on “how Apple sucks because they bricked my phone” is a useless highlighting of a problem.🙂
The value of testing to Apple is only if it yields details on how to reproduce the issue.
Yes thanks, I know that but there should be an option to unenroll the same as you can with the public betas, which you can do via the public beta website. The the public beta option no longer shows on your device.
You unenroll from the developer betas by logging into the device with your personal Apple ID, not your developer id. Public betas have to have an unenroll on the website because they are by definition associated with peoples personal Apple ids, not their separate developer id.
Developer IDs don’t need an unenroll option because you simply just stop using them and switch to your personal Apple ID (unless of course you have made your personal Apple ID a developer ID, in which case I assume you just have to live with the beta option always being there).
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macrumors 603
Out of curiosity, why would you want to unenroll, when you can just untick and ignore any betas offered? What are the actual advantages of unenrolling?
Apple’s official solution is this:
Unenroll Your Devices - Apple Beta
How to unenroll your iPhone, iPad, Mac, Apple TV, Apple Watch, HomePod, or AirPods from the Apple Beta Software Program and stop receiving beta updates.
I think the point jrhop is making is that there is no equivalent process to unenroll from developer betas.Out of curiosity, why would you want to unenroll, when you can just untick and ignore any betas offered? What are the actual advantages of unenrolling?
Apple’s official solution is this:
Unenroll Your Devices - Apple Beta
How to unenroll your iPhone, iPad, Mac, Apple TV, Apple Watch, HomePod, or AirPods from the Apple Beta Software Program and stop receiving beta updates.beta.apple.com
I suspect the reason Apple does not have a process to do that is because Apple don’t expect people to be using their own personal Apple IDs as a developer ID, and therefore when that person uses their personal Apple ID, they don’t even see any of the beta options (because the user has separate personal and developer IDs).
The ’problem’ arises if someone uses their personal Apple ID as a developer ID, in which case they currently permanently see the developer betas as an option. It doesn’t look like Apple expect people to do this so they have not designed a process to unenroll from developer betas.
I wonder if contacting Apple customer support and asking for your personal Apple ID to be removed as a developer ID would do the trick?
There may be a way around this, if a user has a developer account tied to their personal ID (which i suspect is a fair number of people, considering it only costs $99/yr).
There is an option to use a second AppleID to enable beta access. (So, a user could sign in with their personal AppleID for regular iCloud services and a developer or managed AppleID for beta access.)
Yeah its not necessarily a big issue, but there should be a process. I have opened a case with Dev support.
Yes that link is for the public beta, but there is no equivalent for developer beta.Out of curiosity, why would you want to unenroll, when you can just untick and ignore any betas offered? What are the actual advantages of unenrolling?
Apple’s official solution is this:
Unenroll Your Devices - Apple Beta
How to unenroll your iPhone, iPad, Mac, Apple TV, Apple Watch, HomePod, or AirPods from the Apple Beta Software Program and stop receiving beta updates.
Have you updated to the last non beta update?
i put ios17 on my iphone yesterday but it wasnt working on my ipad. this morning i installed the last update, was it 16.5? and then when the ipad restarted it was there.
Something funny is going on with my account. The betas are still not showing up on my devices. I have a free developer account and using software update seems not to be working for me. I have downloaded the ios17 Mac OS install files and installed that way but the watch is not showing anything.
I'm not too worried just odd that my account is not showing it up. I will have to wait for the public beta when that comes out.
I'm not too worried just odd that my account is not showing it up. I will have to wait for the public beta when that comes out.
On the bright side you’re doing yourself a favor battery life wise not running the beta. I have the watch beta and battery life is about 30-40% worse now! They will optimize this hopefully by the time the public beta releases. Also, many of the changes seem gimmicky to me.
Did you get a meaningful response in the end? I am also in the same boat, I must have enrolled in the free developer program at one point and now I’m stuck with the developer betas being available on my devices. Not the end of the world but very annoying as I’m not interested.