So when I go enrol in the Developer app it states it is £78. Am I missing something as I thought it was free?
I think just the mere fact of logging into the developer website with your appleID triggers the ability to download the beta.
So when I go enrol in the Developer app it states it is £78. Am I missing something as I thought it was free?
I never thought I would live to see the day. I remember splitting the bill of a developer profile with a couple friends just to run the beta. Before public betas.
The majority likely can’t or isn’t interested in learning how to, create actionable bug reports, though.The more people testing the better. Might make for a more stable public release...
Sure, but they'll whinge when something is broken, highlighting problems. Like I said, the more people testing the better. You can never have enough.The majority likely can’t or isn’t interested in learning how to, create actionable bug reports, though.![]()
This 100%. I feel sorry for the AppleCare team that has to triage the Feedbacks now that Apple made it so easy for anyone to download the first few betas.The majority likely can’t or isn’t interested in learning how to, create actionable bug reports, though.![]()
Feedback: OMG my phone just completely lost all it's data when I upgraded to iOS17b1. Your software sucks Apple.
Highlighting problems, yes, but with no information provided that can actually help the problem get resolved. Whingeing on social media on “how Apple sucks because they bricked my phone” is a useless highlighting of a problem.Sure, but they'll whinge when something is broken, highlighting problems. Like I said, the more people testing the better. You can never have enough.
Yes thanks, I know that but there should be an option to unenroll the same as you can with the public betas, which you can do via the public beta website. The the public beta option no longer shows on your device.You can set the Beta updates to OFF in Settings > Software Update or choose a specific beta channel you like (iOS 16 or iOS 17).
You unenroll from the developer betas by logging into the device with your personal Apple ID, not your developer id. Public betas have to have an unenroll on the website because they are by definition associated with peoples personal Apple ids, not their separate developer id.Yes thanks, I know that but there should be an option to unenroll the same as you can with the public betas, which you can do via the public beta website. The the public beta option no longer shows on your device.
Yes thanks, I know that but there should be an option to unenroll the same as you can with the public betas, which you can do via the public beta website. The the public beta option no longer shows on your device.
I think the point jrhop is making is that there is no equivalent process to unenroll from developer betas.Out of curiosity, why would you want to unenroll, when you can just untick and ignore any betas offered? What are the actual advantages of unenrolling?
Apple’s official solution is this:
Apple Beta — Unenroll Your Devices
beta.apple.com
There may be a way around this, if a user has a developer account tied to their personal ID (which i suspect is a fair number of people, considering it only costs $99/yr).I think the point jrhop is making is that there is no equivalent process to unenroll from developer betas.
I suspect the reason Apple does not have a process to do that is because Apple don’t expect people to be using their own personal Apple IDs as a developer ID, and therefore when that person uses their personal Apple ID, they don’t even see any of the beta options (because the user has separate personal and developer IDs).
The ’problem’ arises if someone uses their personal Apple ID as a developer ID, in which case they currently permanently see the developer betas as an option. It doesn’t look like Apple expect people to do this so they have not designed a process to unenroll from developer betas.
I wonder if contacting Apple customer support and asking for your personal Apple ID to be removed as a developer ID would do the trick?
Yeah its not necessarily a big issue, but there should be a process. I have opened a case with Dev support.I think the point jrhop is making is that there is no equivalent process to unenroll from developer betas.
I suspect the reason Apple does not have a process to do that is because Apple don’t expect people to be using their own personal Apple IDs as a developer ID, and therefore when that person uses their personal Apple ID, they don’t even see any of the beta options (because the user has separate personal and developer IDs).
The ’problem’ arises if someone uses their personal Apple ID as a developer ID, in which case they currently permanently see the developer betas as an option. It doesn’t look like Apple expect people to do this so they have not designed a process to unenroll from developer betas.
I wonder if contacting Apple customer support and asking for your personal Apple ID to be removed as a developer ID would do the trick?
Yes that link is for the public beta, but there is no equivalent for developer beta.Out of curiosity, why would you want to unenroll, when you can just untick and ignore any betas offered? What are the actual advantages of unenrolling?
Apple’s official solution is this:
Apple Beta — Unenroll Your Devices
beta.apple.com
Have you updated to the last non beta update?I'm surprised this doesn't work for the iPadOS beta, but I'm not having any luck.
See https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/creating-parallels-sonoma-vm-on-ventura-fails.2392190/Can I install it as a Parallels VM?
On the bright side you’re doing yourself a favor battery life wise not running the beta. I have the watch beta and battery life is about 30-40% worse now! They will optimize this hopefully by the time the public beta releases. Also, many of the changes seem gimmicky to me.Something funny is going on with my account. The betas are still not showing up on my devices. I have a free developer account and using software update seems not to be working for me. I have downloaded the ios17 Mac OS install files and installed that way but the watch is not showing anything.
I'm not too worried just odd that my account is not showing it up. I will have to wait for the public beta when that comes out.
Did you get a meaningful response in the end? I am also in the same boat, I must have enrolled in the free developer program at one point and now I’m stuck with the developer betas being available on my devices. Not the end of the world but very annoying as I’m not interested.Yeah its not necessarily a big issue, but there should be a process. I have opened a case with Dev support.