Apple Makes Gains in U.S. Smartphone Market Share

[szw-mapple fan]

Maybe one of these days Apple's share price will again reflect reality.

Once APPL drops to an all-time-low it will rise again to the "surprise" of many analysts.

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Oh doooo tell me where I lied.

What's compromised about Android. What was rushed? Or are you just living in the past and haven't returned to 2013 yet?

That maybe the case. However iOS and the App Store is superior in terms of stability and privacy.

 

[BvizioN]

"People" don't use iPhones more. Just "People" in the US.

"All People" around the world use Android OS more so that pretty much makes your entire post wrong.

You are dead right!

$50 cheap plastic VS $700 high quality .... you know what the wallet says

Point is... not everyone can effort expensive phones in the other parts of the worlds. Some people have to settle for a crap.

 

[surf4peace]

my last iphone lasted not long ot of its warrantee period. Home buttons are a pig. The new iphone appears to be heading down that same route.

On the other hand, mine have worked quite well...

 

[SomeDudeAsking]

You guys are just sticking fingers in your ears and only choose to believe the statistics you want to believe and ignore everything else. No wonder so many of you don't get why Apple's share price has crashed by over 40% in just six months. The reality is that Apple is in a downward spiral:

AAPL: Citi Cuts Estimates, Target to $480 on Slowing iPhone, iPad Demand

Citigroup’s Glen Yeung is among three analysts who today cut their estimates and price targets for Apple (AAPL), warning of product gaps and the diminishing returns from the smartphone and tablet market.

Apple shares today are down $5.34, or 1.3%, at $425.80.

Yeung, who has a Neutral rating on shares of Apple, cut his price target to $480 from $500, after cutting the current quarter’s estimate to $40.45 billion, gross margin of 37.9%, and EPS of $9.23 from a prior $42 billion, 38%, and $9.73. He also cut full-year 2013 and fiscal 2014 and 2015 estimates.
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In conducting our regular field work with the hardware supply chain, we again find evidence of reduced demand to Apple’s suppliers for iPhone5 related components. While production does not directly translate to sales (for example, we estimate Apple finished 1Q13(Dec) with ~10M iPhone units in inventory), we suspect this is an indication of softer demand for iPhone5 and iPhone4S. To be sure, we expect iPhone5S to be introduced in 4Q13(Sep) (slightly later than our initial expectations of ~June), suggesting iPhone5 production slowdowns now could be clearing inventories ahead of the iPhone5S launch. But with small volumes of iPhone5S expected to be built in 3Q13(Jun) (we estimate 3-4M units), we suspect this effect is minimal (we expect iPhone inventories to be reduced to 5M units from 10M).
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http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2013/03/06/aapl-cit-cuts-estimates-target-to-480-on-slowing-iphone-ipad-demand/

 

[thasan]

Sad sad post.

BTW - "rushed to market" ? Yeah - maybe MAYBE OS1.0 - but now? Not so much. ICS and JB weren't "rushed" no matter how much you really want to say it.

What functionality has been compromised in Android. Name some.

Your rationalization is hilarious.

Lastly - why so defensive and dismissive? Someone at Google kidnap a loved one?

Out of 6 points and you answer two. You say his/her rationalisation is hilarious yet your last line is... well, childish.
Where is the vote down button?

 

[johnjefferson]

Even though it does share the screen with the iPhone 5, the iPod Touch share its processor with the iPhone 4S and its camera uses the sensor from the iPhone 4. In other words it's not "basically an iPhone 5".

Your average consumer doesnt know or care what processor is in their iPod/iPhone nor do they care if its last year's camera. It has Siri and can do everything the iPhone 5 can. So yes, its basically an iPhone 5 without the calling feature.

 

[Michael Scrip]

I'm sure when the S4 comes out, we'll see a spike in Android marketshare.

I dunno... there were something like 150 million Android phones sold last quarter... but only 15 million Galaxy SIII

Even if Samsung sold double that of the Galaxy SIV... it won't make too much of a difference in Android market share.

 

[Michael Scrip]

The only number that matters is the Android version usage figure, which tells us that only 14.9% are running Jelly Bean, and 28.6% running Ice Cream Sandwich. In short, less than 50% are running a high end Android phone. This basically tells us that Android's meaningful global market share, is actually much less than 25%. The other phones are low - mid range phones, that are being purchased because they are cheap, not because of the OS.

That sounds about right.

I love it when people shout "Android is winning"

I often wonder... what good is all that Android market share if most of it is made up of a bunch of crappy phones running Gingerbread?

It's great that Android can wear the crown of "most units sold" but I'm curious what else Android fans can brag about?

Android isn't courting developers... developers seem to be much happier on iOS. And Apple certainly leads in customer satisfaction.

So yeah... Android is on the most phones around the world... but I'm not seeing much good come from it.

 

[Bantz]

Any worldwide figures? Is Android about 80 percent world wide?

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So it continues.

I think the term "Android fatigue" should become a regular part of these kinds of articles, because that's what I attribute this steady trickle of market share away from Android toward iOS. I think Android is very good at grabbing first-time buyers of smart phones but very bad at keeping them long-term. I suspect that's what we're seeing now and have been seeing for the last year or so. The question is how long it will continue and when will we reach a stable point where so much migration between platforms settles down.

Everyone in my office and friends all moved away from the iphone for various reason, mostly how it was so locked down, being bored of ios, lack of improvement across the new ios versions and that android phones have bigger/better screens now.

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That sounds about right.

I love it when people shout "Android is winning"

I often wonder... what good is all that Android market share if most of it is made up of a bunch of crappy phones running Gingerbread?

It's great that Android can wear the crown of "most units sold" but I'm curious what else Android fans can brag about?

Android isn't courting developers... developers seem to be much happier on iOS. And Apple certainly leads in customer satisfaction.

So yeah... Android is on the most phones around the world... but I'm not seeing much good come from it.

Any Android phone takes away a potential sale from Apple and gets people using Google services. So yes it does matter a lot.

 

[dreadnort]

I really don't think it's right to call android the largest "smartphone platform", because:



5. You'd be just as correct to lump all the other Linux derivatives together and claim that there's a "linux smartphone platform".

I have to disagree with everyone of your comments but this one made I laugh
what do you think is running under the hood of you beloved IDevice ' fairy dust'

 

[Michael Scrip]

Any Android phone takes away a potential sale from Apple and gets people using Google services. So yes it does matter a lot.

If they're buying unlocked $100 phones... they wouldn't be buying iPhones anyway.

And... some countries don't even have the Google Play store.

 

[dreadnort]

 

[wellred]

Yep. It's all price. If all Androids were priced at the same level as iPhones (unsubsidized) $649/749/849 their market share would dwindle very quickly.

You almost never hear that some one got an Android because they really wanted one. It's because it was "FREE" or "very cheap" with their regular contract cycle. Or they broke a phone or whatever and the Android was cheap to replace it. They don't speak with any passion, it's all $ plain and simple.

There is a lot if truth in this. Which is why Apple need to change their ways and make some mid and low end handsets to cater for that end of the market. If they did I think they would mop up.

 

[Michael Scrip]

There is a lot if truth in this. Which is why Apple need to change their ways and make some mid and low end handsets to cater for that end of the market. If they did I think they would mop up.

Mop up what?

The contest of who sells the most?

They already make BILLIONS with only 20% of the smartphone market.

I guess it couldn't hurt to make more though...

 

[wellred]

Mop up what?

The contest of who sells the most?

They already make BILLIONS with only 20% of the smartphone market.

I guess it couldn't hurt to make more though...

Not only that but so I can strut my stuff over on the other forums again.

 

[Michael Scrip]

Not only that but so I can strut my stuff over on the other forums again.

I do my little turn on the catwalk...

 

[slattery69]

These discussions are always good for a laugh to see people cock waving. though i never get why ,who really cares who sells the most phones or makes the most money.
unless you work for these companies or own shares what does it matter. its a really odd thing to get defensive about , you paid money for a product to a multi national corporation , do you feel better knowing they made a load of money off you?
if your happy with your purchase then surely thats all that matters, why advertise these companies for free let them spend there huge profits on getting new customers or repeat customers

 

[unlinked]

The only number that matters is the Android version usage figure, which tells us that only 14.9% are running Jelly Bean, and 28.6% running Ice Cream Sandwich. In short, less than 50% are running a high end Android phone. This basically tells us that Android's meaningful global market share, is actually much less than 25%. The other phones are low - mid range phones, that are being purchased because they are cheap, not because of the OS.

http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html

That doesn't really make sense. You can pick up an ICS or JB Android phone for about £150 ($190). The split between high end and low end isn't anything to do with the OS version.

 

[spazzcat]

There is a lot if truth in this. Which is why Apple need to change their ways and make some mid and low end handsets to cater for that end of the market. If they did I think they would mop up.

Why? Apple doesn't need a higher market share. They have a higher quality customers that use their phone more then calling and texting. They buy more apps and surf the web more...

 

[SnowLeopard2008]

Your quote was


You stated people use iPhones more. They don't. Maybe you need to be a little more specific next time to post a rant that isn't true.



The effing World is People. People in the US are a small percentage of People. So if more People in the world use plastic phones then your post holds no truth.

Nothing to get your panties in a ruffle over. People prefer Android given the overall percentage is larger for Android OS, that's why they have a large lead over Apple in overall usage around the world.

Yea, I agree. No one is claiming anything different. If someone told you "I've seen a lot of Tesla cars near where I live", I'm guessing you're Mr. Obvious and will respond with "BUT in the world, Tesla makes up a very insignificant market share and you're obviously stupid and wrong". Excellent argument... for being completely ignorant. Seriously, go read the thread. I'll bet you it isn't about worldwide market share.

 

[alexgowers]

Apple makes more from each phones than any android by miles.

Apple is making tonnes of money on iOS yet it's share price drops.

It was over inflated but still it's starting to prove obvious that even a 5S version will still out sell all handsets in the long term Apple are building an ecosystem that is unbeatable.

Android is bought by people who in general don't own a tablet or any apple product.

 

[Oletros]

I have to disagree with everyone of your comments but this one made I laugh
what do you think is running under the hood of you beloved IDevice ' fairy dust'

One thing that is not running is Linux or a Linux derivative

 

[mapledress]

Congratulation to Apple, But Apple need to release a new iPhone in order to compete with the new released htc one and the Samsung galaxy s4, which is going to released on March 14.
The htc one is really good. The design is fashion and sense 5 looks quite good. And samsung will also bring a lot of new features to us with its galaxy s4. Come on, Apple.

 

[iGrip]

Oh doooo tell me where I lied.

What's compromised about Android. What was rushed? Or are you just living in the past and haven't returned to 2013 yet?

Maybe he's got this gem in mind:

"We did not enter the search business, Jobs said. They entered the phone business. Make no mistake they want to kill the iPhone. We won’t let them,"


Maybe he think that he is one of the "we" who is not letting Google "kill" the iPhone? If so, somebody needs to tell him that he is too late.

Oh - and tell him that he is NOT one of the "we" that Jobs was referring to. He is a mere customer. He's not one of Jobs' "we".

 

[Sedrick]

Something tells me if these same figures and charts weren't (as you suggest) so meaningless and skewed towards Android but instead put Apple in a better light you wouldn't have said a damn thing. I've never read such a pathetic attempt at rationalization in my life.

I really don't think it's right to call android the largest "smartphone platform", because:

1. Really its "mobile platform" and when you look at the post-PC era, tablets, namely the iPad Market is a big chunk of mobil devices, and when you include these numbers- the iPad has really dominant share making iOS the dominant platform. Looking just at "smartphones" is selective reporting to try and exclude the market where Apple has had the most success, skewing the numbers in favor of android.

2. Android is hugely fragmented. iOS devices are mostly all running the latest iOS software and even ones that aren't can all run apps without modification. This is not true on android where covering %80 of the market requires changing your app to support 167!!! different devices.

3. I don't consider android to really be a platform, simply because it is so compromised. As a ripoff of iOS they had to rush it to market and in doing so compromised a lot of functionality.

4. Android is primarily sold to feature phone buyers as if it were a featurephone. These people walk in to get "a phone" and get sold android by the weenies at the carriers store... but they don't use them for apps or for even browsing the web, which is why the web stats on android are so pitiful. Android is really a feature phone operating system (hence the fragmentation and incompatibility)

5. You'd be just as correct to lump all the other Linux derivatives together and claim that there's a "linux smartphone platform".

6. We don't have real hard numbers for shipping devices for android. Amazon doesn't publish actual numbers. Google doesn't publish actual numbers. Samsung doesn't publish actual numbers. There's a lot of hype and BS claims that these devices are selling in huge numbers, but when samsung was forced to report actual sales in the lawsuit last year, it turns out that when journalists were claiming big sales the reality was pitiful. Most of these "sales" are actually non-android featurephones also sold by these companies who don't break them out because they want to seem more dominant than they are.

Get me real numbers reported in annual or quarterly reports that would result in an investigation by the SEC and charges of fraud if they were made up-- and use those.

Apple provides them. Until android manufacturers are willing to report the numbers under penalty of perjury like Apple does, they're just PR smoke, nothing more. (or analysts "projections")

These stats are being distorted by the propaganda of android fans who claim that it is a platform, and a smartphone platform at that and that it is dominant