Apple Makes Gains in U.S. Smartphone Market Share

[2457282]

Based on 2013 numbers, .6% would be 6 million iPhones, which equates to 4.8 billion in additional revenue.

Pour me a glass, please.

I think your calculation is off a bit. That .6% is relative to US iPhones not all iPhones in the world. None the less, the point stands that it still equates to big dollars. And if I can get .01% I would buy everyone a glass. 😀

 

[cube]

NICE: Where the hell is Apple buying them up and switching them all to iPhones before Google or Microsoft beats them to it?

If we wanted one of those phones we would have already bought one. We can still buy a Jolla phone.

And this is US data, which is not representative, since BlackBerry gets little support from the carriers there, and it is a carrier "subsidy"-centric country.

 

[sbrhwkp3]

You failed to read the data correctly.

So the Blackberry users didn't consider Samsung phones?

 

[M-O]

Game over once the 4.7, 5.5 inch iPhones come out. 😀

it used to be "Game over once the Verizon iPhone comes out"

 

[BaldiMac]

I think your calculation is off a bit. That .6% is relative to US iPhones not all iPhones in the world. None the less, the point stands that it still equates to big dollars. And if I can get .01% I would buy everyone a glass. 😀

Not quite. It was 0.6% of total US smartphone subscribers.

So...

Feb 2014
iPhone 41.3% of 163.2 million total US smartphone subscribers =
67.4 million US subscribers w/ iPhone

May 2014
iPhone 41.9% of 169 million total US smartphone subscribers =
70.8 million US subscribers w/ iPhone

Total increase of 3.4 million subscribers using iPhones in the US over the three month period. Or almost 60% of total increase of US smartphone subscribers.

http://www.comscore.com/Insights/Pr...ry-2014-US-Smartphone-Subscriber-Market-Share
http://www.comscore.com/Insights/Ma...-2014-U.S.-Smartphone-Subscriber-Market-Share

 

[Glideslope]

The Truth

Not bad for a bunch of "Wall Huggers," eh? 😀

 

[2457282]

Not quite. It was 0.6% of total US smartphone subscribers.

So...

Feb 2014
iPhone 41.3% of 163.2 million total US smartphone subscribers =
67.4 million US subscribers w/ iPhone

May 2014
iPhone 41.9% of 169 million total US smartphone subscribers =
70.8 million US subscribers w/ iPhone

Total increase of 3.4 million subscribers using iPhones in the US over the three month period. Or almost 60% of total increase of US smartphone subscribers.

http://www.comscore.com/Insights/Pr...ry-2014-US-Smartphone-Subscriber-Market-Share
http://www.comscore.com/Insights/Ma...-2014-U.S.-Smartphone-Subscriber-Market-Share

I stand firmly corrected. So can you buy me the drink then. 🙂

 

[BaldiMac]

I stand firmly corrected. So can you buy me the drink then. 🙂

😀 As soon as I get the .01%!

 

[Oletros]

Based on 2013 numbers, .6% would be 6 million iPhones, which equates to 4.8 billion in additional revenue.

Pour me a glass, please.

What?

if 0,6% is 6 million, 100% is 1 billion phones. What are you talking about?

 

[Windlasher]

If we wanted one of those phones we would have already bought one. We can still buy a Jolla phone.

And this is US data, which is not representative, since BlackBerry gets little support from the carriers there, and it is a carrier "subsidy"-centric country.

I must have missed Jolla on that list of market share. 😀

But, I still think that buying RIM for probably a hell of a lot less than they paid for Beats would get them a few million new customers right off the bat. Some people just want an iPhone or an Android and not some weird phone from some weird company no matter how nice it is.

RIM has been for sale for quite a while now and has had no takers. Its just become like beating a dead horse.

I used to have a BB. It was fine. But they missed the boat and they missed it by a hell of a lot. The past 8 years have had people spend a lot of money on apps and accessories. People aren't going to just ditch all that for some essentially unknown phone with a few apps.

Here is a list of pors and cons from a review.

Can run Android apps
Interface navigation can work well one-handed
Impressive attention to smaller design details
Swappable NFC backplates for extra colour & function modding
Cons

Very few native apps
Android app compatibility/stability issues
Interface has significant learning curve & navigation can be confusing
Mid-range hardware; unspectacular performer.

Yeah, I want to ditch my phone for that. NOT!

 

[2457282]

What?

if 0,6% is 6 million, 100% is 1 billion phones. What are you talking about?

See the calculations from baldimac a few comments up. It's not 6 million but 3.4. Still a good increase.

 

[cube]

I must have missed Jolla on that list of market share. 😀

But, I still think that buying RIM for probably a hell of a lot less than they paid for Beats would get them a few million new customers right off the bat. Some people just want an iPhone or an Android and not some weird phone from some weird company no matter how nice it is.

RIM has been for sale for quite a while now and has had no takers. Its just become like beating a dead horse.

I used to have a BB. It was fine. But they missed the boat and they missed it by a hell of a lot. The past 8 years have had people spend a lot of money on apps and accessories. People aren't going to just ditch all that for some essentially unknown phone with a few apps.

First, it is not called RIM anymore.

Second, it was only on sale for a few months. The new CEO killed that idea.

Why would BlackBerry owners get an iPhone just because Apple buys the company? If they wanted an iPhone they would have got one already. If anything, killing BB10 would make those people choose anything but Apple.

And BlackBerry would cost a lot more than Beats.

Jolla is just starting with one phone with limited availability, market share does not apply. And Sailfish also has an Android runtime, like BB10.

Anybody fond of true Nokia will consider Jolla.

 

[Windlasher]

First, it is not called RIM anymore.

OK, thats fine.


Second, it was only on sale for a few months. The new CEO killed that idea.
EVERYTHING is for sale. If it isn't now, It probably will be again soon.


Why would BlackBerry owners get an iPhone just because Apple buys the company? If they wanted an iPhone they would have got one already. If anything, killing BB10 would make those people choose anything but Apple.
Opinions vary. If Apple, or Google or Anyone else bought them they would offer them value to switch. I used Apple because this is an Apple Forum.

And BlackBerry would cost a lot more than Beats.
I doubt it. Blackberry's current valuation is under 1 billion.



Jolla is just starting with one phone with limited availability, market share does not apply. And Sailfish also has an Android runtime, like BB10.
Yeah but rumor has it that its runtime is crap and doesn't work well.



Anybody fond of true Nokia will consider Jolla.

Didn't see Nokia on that list either.

 

[cube]

Didn't see Nokia on that list either.

You are completely off BlackBerry's valuation, which a quick search would immediately show you.

And Nokia committed suicide, with the masses who demanded true Nokia fleeing the Windows roadmap. Jolla is the continuation of Nokia's long-term plan which should have never been abandoned.

Apple and Samsung never beat Nokia. Nokia beat themselves instantly.

 

[Windlasher]

You are completely off BlackBerry's valuation, which a quick search would immediately show you.

And Nokia committed suicide, with the masses who demanded true Nokia fleeing the Windows roadmap. Jolla is the continuation of Nokia's long-term plan which should have never been abandoned.

Apple and Samsung never beat Nokia. Nokia beat themselves instantly.

You are right. I was just coming back to correct my valuation error.

That said.... Well see in a year or so.

 

[iOSaddict]

Meh. I go back and forth between iOS and Nexus devices now. They each have their own learning curve, about six weeks to really get the OS down. Once I was proficient at both, it turns out they are more or less the same now neither offering much more than the other - except Android has a real notification system while Apple's version is pretend - and Apple has slightly more responsiveness due to superior capacitive screen touch sensing hardware that detects movement/touch in half as many milliseconds.

Yeah they're pretty much the same, except Android will always be stuttery and the app experience will never be as good.

 

[groovyd]

what i don't get is why none of those numbers actually add up to 100%... when you argue less then .6% of something you should at least be accounting properly. Are we missing the 'other' row that actually makes up the differences?

 

[PocketSand11]

I don't know about their products sucking because I haven't used any of their phones in the past few years. My contract is up in Sept and the One M8 is one of the choices I'm looking at, along with the S5, Note, and iP6 (if it's at least 4.7" as rumored). As for the 'copy everyone' thing, who cares. Seriously, who really gives a shoot? They all borrow features from each other.

My aunts and uncles have the HTC One phones, not sure which version. I've used them and have found many ridiculous problems with them not present in other Android phones, most importantly that they were sadly unresponsive. Still worth trying them.

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Game over once the 4.7, 5.5 inch iPhones come out. 😀

Game over once everyone in the world can afford to spend hundreds of dollars on an expensive iPhone plus its service.

 

[manu chao]

You realize on that chart the gain in Apple came from a drop in Blackberry, right? Not that this is a bad thing, I mean, those who switch didn't choose Android, but it's not as if those on Android phones are jumping ships to switch to iOS.

Without actual user surveys it is impossible to say who switched to whom. All BB switchers could have gone to Apple or all could have gone to Android and other Android users switched to Apple. In reality it will be something in between. The only thing that can be said for certain is that:

• Android held their market share
• Apple slightly gained in market share
• Android did not manage to profit from BB loss in market share, while Apple did.

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what i don't get is why none of those numbers actually add up to 100%... when you argue less then .6% of something you should at least be accounting properly. Are we missing the 'other' row that actually makes up the differences?

Not necessarily, numbers are usually rounded individually. Imagine a market where three competitors held exactly the same market share: 33.333333333333%. Round that to three significant digits and each will have 33.3%. Sum that up and you get 99.9%. Happens all the time, the larger the number of elements, the larger the maximum possible summation 'error' can be. Sometimes you cheat a little bit to correct for this (easiest is to round different entries with different number of digits).

 

[dumastudetto]

No surprise, despite having nothing all that new and unique to offer. You know why?

Have you ever picked up an Android phone at your local phone store? They are SO BAD compared to iOS it's insane. The entire web it seems is now optimized for iOS and clunky, jumpy Androids try to display full web pages and don't **FEEL** good to use.

In the long run, unless Google or somebody else finds a way to smooth things out, this trend will continue.

My experience is the same. The web on mobile just feels so much better, smoother, more delightful from an iOS device. And web analytics back that up because Android devices rarely show up while iOS dominates - prompting Tim Cook to ask what are Android owners doing with their devices?

 

[fermat-au]

A 0.6% change is statistically irrelevant.

Kantar just released their smartphone sales number and in the US (and China) the iPhone is down y/y.

12 months to May '14

Android 52.0% to 61.9% +9.9%
iOS 41.9% to 32.5% -9.4%

see PDF link at end of the page

A 9 percentage point change is relevant.

 

[Trapezoid]

A 0.6% change is statistically irrelevant.

Kantar just released their smartphone sales number and in the US (and China) the iPhone is down y/y.

12 months to May '14

Android 52.0% to 61.9% +9.9%
iOS 41.9% to 32.5% -9.4%

see PDF link at end of the page

A 9 percentage point change is relevant.

The same Kantar report shows that both the 5S AND 5C outsold the S5. So what does this mean? It means that iPhone customers are waiting for a bigger screen.

 

[fermat-au]

The same Kantar report shows that both the 5S AND 5C outsold the S5. So what does this mean? It means that iPhone customers are waiting for a bigger screen.

True. Apple's two best selling phones (that make up 90%+ of iPhones sold) both outsell one Android model. The important point is that compared to the same period last year more people bought Android, less people bought iPhones, as a percentage. I agree that some (most?) of the drop is iPhone user waiting for an iPhone with bigger screen, but some is due to people choosing to Android over iOS.
In Britain 26% of new Samsung Galaxy S5 users have switched from the iPhone
I agree that all this points to the fact that Apple needs a bigger iPhone. I think that if the iPhone 6 has only a 4" screen, then Apple and the iPhone are in trouble.

 

[Trapezoid]

True. Apple's two best selling phones (that make up 90%+ of iPhones sold) both outsell one Android model. The important point is that compared to the same period last year more people bought Android, less people bought iPhones, as a percentage. I agree that some (most?) of the drop is iPhone user waiting for an iPhone with bigger screen, but some is due to people choosing to Android over iOS.
In Britain 26% of new Samsung Galaxy S5 users have switched from the iPhone
I agree that all this points to the fact that Apple needs a bigger iPhone. I think that if the iPhone 6 has only a 4" screen, then Apple and the iPhone are in trouble.

I agree with that. If Apple doesn't go bigger than 4" they're only going to lose more marketshare. Its pretty obvious that people want a bigger screen. It's also obvious that people want an iPhone more than any individual android phone.

The sweet spot? An iPhone with a bigger screen. If the 6 has a big screen, Apple will set records like those never seen before.

 

[BvizioN]

Neither is PERSISTANT though. If I'm away from the phone for a while I have to dig dig dig to see if I missed anything

Not really. You just wake up the phone and all notifications are there. I am using GS5 now and I agree the LED notification is handy. As for the notification icons on the top of the screen I don't like it and find them really messy. But that's just me.