nobody is slowing your machine. my MB12 is faster with every update.
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This is best macOS version. Much better than Mojave.
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Apple Making It Harder to Avoid Nagging macOS Update Notifications
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Some of us still prefer to run older software THAT WE OWN not rent! Any forced OS update would kill that luxury.
Well you need to go back in time to run software you own. I'd be willing to make a guess that you don't OWN most of the software on your computer. You have a license to USE it. This is not to be confused with RENTING software or a product because in that case you would pay a monthly or yearly fee. This is often called a subscription. I know it gets confusing but a common misconception people have is they own the software or OS on their computer.
Even when you had to buy macOS, you were still just buying the media and license to use it.
I've been convincing myself that I could continue using MacOS fighting against current Apple trends, but it seems it's not going to be possible because this stronger update nagging confirms they are pushing hard to never be Apple again. I've been preparing my environment for an hypothetical migration to Linux for years, but I admit I hoped it wouldn't be necessary. With these news today, my 2018 MBP might have been my last Apple purchase in my life (or at least until Tim leaves and a new management team puts the things back in order).
I haven't found anything better or worse with Catalina compared to Mojave. It works and so did Mojave. I'm sure there are lots of behind the scenes security improvements but I mean just the user experience.
Yes, this is feeling less and less like the Apple that I know, but then again, we did have that Pages 5.0 fiasco that went on for far too long, where they dropped much-needed features, ignored all feedback for a year, then finally added them back in again.
Is Catalina still really bad? I'm on Mojave, but only because I don't have enough space to install any big updates. And I'd really miss Dashboard.
Is Catalina still really bad? I'm on Mojave, but only because I don't have enough space to install any big updates. And I'd really miss Dashboard.
Windows may be more aggressive with updates but at least they don't break older software anywhere near as often as MacOS does.
MacOS has broken old software completely multiple times in the last two decades.
People have this fantasy that Steve Jobs pooped golden bricks that were made into Macs till Tim Cook came along and sold Apple to the devil. It's an update notification so lets not act like it's the end of Apple. Linux is a good choice but if you want an ecosystem similar to what Apple offers it's not there. It's all about what you want and what fits your needs. Maybe macOS isn't for you.
You could install Ubuntu onto your MacBook Pro, add a macOS skin, and it would feel very much like a Mac. Got a colleague that's done that. Ubuntu is a solid first step into the Linux world. I was impressed when I ran an Ubuntu machine back in 2009, and I run several Ubuntu servers today (no GUI, though).
They hope to move everyone to iPads with keyboards. Can't do that if macOS is as open as it used to be. No one would jump. At some point it will not make any difference because macOS will be as useless as iPadOS to power users.
Anyway, look at the developer log in page in prep for WWDC 2020. Adult power users are not Apple's focus and I'm afraid they never will be.
Correct. Apple will not hinder it's OS to maintain compatibility with outdated software. This is one of the reasons Windows is such a mess.
I have 23 Macs, ranging from a 2004 iBook to a 2018 MacBook Pro, and running Leopard through Mojave. Six are Catalina capable, but they must run the same software (homebrew security and home control software) as my non-Catalina capable devices (as well as the same software cross-compiled to a dozen Raspberry Pis and Windows machines). Becasue of this, I must continue to be able to develop and run 32-bit software. I cannot afford to just trash 18 Macs and 20+ years of personally developed software just so I can use "features" that Apple thinks I need.
So, for now I'll not be buying any newer Macs until there is some app that would justify doing so (i.e. only runs on Catalina or higher). I cannot imagine at this point what that might be, since I really don't care for any of the "must have" apps that Apple has been pushing lately (e.g. music, TV).
I have twice set up machines to use Catalina for specific reasons (e.g. trying to recover a dead iPad mini Gen 2). Setting them up and then returning to Mojave a day later is a major pain, due mainly to the changes in the file system.
If they cannot afford NOT to update your OS is not because of bugs, but because their business viability for the mid-term future depends on services. They decided to move into a 100% services company, rather than a products company. This is clearly seen in iOS, because iOS locks you into a service-based environment. But this model completely kills the Mac, because the Mac is about freedom on something you own because you purchased it (unlike iOS, which a system beyond your control, looking more like a subscription rather than a purchase --ie: a service rather than a product).
With this CEO, the Mac is condemned into becoming also a services box... in other words, the Mac is dead until there's a change in the CEO and other persons in charge.
Funny,
because of the problems I got with Security Update 2020-002 I had to reinstall Mojave and the first thing I did was to open the terminal ...
1 sudo softwareupdate --ignore "macOS Catalina"
2 sudo softwareupdate --ignore "Security Update 2020-002"
3 sudo softwareupdate --ignore "Security Update 2020-003"
Just in anticipation apple would release another devilish update ;-)
because of the problems I got with Security Update 2020-002 I had to reinstall Mojave and the first thing I did was to open the terminal ...
1 sudo softwareupdate --ignore "macOS Catalina"
2 sudo softwareupdate --ignore "Security Update 2020-002"
3 sudo softwareupdate --ignore "Security Update 2020-003"
Just in anticipation apple would release another devilish update ;-)
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
My 2019 imac runs perfectly on Mojave - it's going to stay that way for a long time.
I remember when I first updated my 2011 iMac - made a mess of a lot of things and cost my hours of work. I don't need that again.
My 2019 imac runs perfectly on Mojave - it's going to stay that way for a long time.
I remember when I first updated my 2011 iMac - made a mess of a lot of things and cost my hours of work. I don't need that again.
It's exactly the same on Windows. Not only that, it's the model commercial Linux vendors have been following forever, since it's difficult to charge for the base product. Go look up how much a Red Hat server subscription costs.
Using an OS for me isn't about looks. I don't even see the OS when I'm running a program or playing a game. I never understood when MS would market Vista based on how it looked. For me an OS is about how stable, secure and what apps are available to it. macOS adds the ecosystem where you can work between different Apple devices. I can take a picture with my iPhone and it pops up instantly on my Mac. I can send and reply to texts on my Mac so I don't have to pick up my phone. Linux is a very good OS but it's still not quite polished like Windows or macOS
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No problem.Thanks for the clarification ****. /s
First, please turn your computer on. But I agree Catalina works great when it is shutdown.
After that, try to use it for some purpose beyond a web browser. But under no circumstance use it for email, that is a bust, at least if you 10+ years of email history that you don't want screwed up. And don't use it for pictures if you have more than a few thousand and don't want them lost. Oh, and don't use it for music if you have custom assigned album covers. Well, maybe I should just stop there.
Too many kids have bought into the Apple marketing campaign.
My use for Macs has always been the use for commercial UNIX machines, which is what they were until they decided the Mac should converge to iOS. All the software I use is UNIX software. It runs better on Mac than on Linux, because the Mac runs out of the box and everything is perfectly tuned. But, as I said, I've been preparing the migration for years, because I've been seeing -with huge disappointment- the changes they have been doing to iOS, and I feared the Mac would be next, like it's being the case in the last years. This nagging for updates is not something isolated, it's just a confirmation of the direction they want. I'd prefer to continue using the Mac, but I've been extremely careful these years to select software that ran not only on Mac but also on Linux, because I was fearing this could happen. If the Mac won't be able to be used as a UNIX machine anymore, I'll complete the migration.
Ignoring security updates is never good. I hope you don't use your Mac or Apple devices for financial or other critical purposes.
I like Alpine more: it uses musl instead of glibc, and it has a strong focus in supporting more CPU architectures than Ubuntu.
Make that 2 of the luckiest Catalina users on macrumors. Catalina has been very stable on both of my 2015 MacBook Pro computers.
What are you talking about? None of my email was screws up and I have a few thousand pictures and none are lost. I don't bother with downloading old school mp3 files anymore so I can't comment about that. Always back up your data especially before installing updates! I've learned my lesson the hard way on this!
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I must be number 3? No issues with Catalina with my 2018 Mac mini.
Because I need my Mac for critical purposes I am not willing to make my computer unusable with these updates. It is a 2015 13" Macbook Pro with Broadwell and I got several system freezes in every hour combined with a GPU restart. No fun. https://mrmacintosh.com/2020-002-update-causes-some-macs-to-freeze-when-using-hw-accelerated-video/
The latest update unfortunately does not provide a solution either.