Apple Making It Harder to Avoid Nagging macOS Update Notifications

[russell_314]

Can’t run a VM on an iOS device can you? I just don’t understand why they didn’t keep the option to use the regular music app instead of a restricted one. They take away features from the Movies/TV app.

At this point I’m wondering why they even have an iTunes Music Store app. Just throw that into the cluster**** of a Music app and bloat it up some more. 😂

Umm this whole thread is about macOS updates not iOS so maybe that's the confusion? That's a whole new ball of wax LOL

 

[JoeG4]

Apple are really salty that we don’t like macOS Vista, aren’t they?

It's more like macOS Me.

 

[russell_314]

Fair enough. And thank you for the civilized and interesting conversation.

It's just tech and TBH unless you work for Apple (I don't) neither one of us can do much more than complain

 

[diggy33]

Zero touch and automatic enrollment is broken on some new MacBook Air's. You have to wipe then reinstall.
Also, it's hard to to deploy the free apps like Pages, iMovie, etc.
Get it together, Apple.

I convinced the higher ups years ago to stay away from the Air. We havent purchased any since 2015, I think. I dont know what will cause me more grief - this update, or Microsoft and their bonked Auto Update tool for Office 365.

 

[laszlo182]

Sorry, Apple. I'm not touching Catalina with a 10 foot pole. I've read and heard too many horror stories. This will be the first macOS release I've skipped entirely since becoming a Mac user in 2008.

I don’t have any problem with it…there have been much worse updates

 

[russell_314]

It's more like macOS Me.

LOL no... The best M$ can put out (Win 7 or 10 IMO) isn't up to Catalina. Vista and me were hot garbage!

 

[Aston441]

One wonders if there’s a hidden agenda.

 

[Expos of 1969]

Maybe Apple could offer a $50 Amazon gift card for upgrading, they might find more takers.

What person with any ethics and interest in the fair treatment of workers would even consider accepting a gift card from a reprehensible operation like Amazon? Sadly I know the response to my question is millions would as all they care about is speedy delivery and low cost.

 

[russell_314]

I convinced the higher ups years ago to stay away from the Air. We havent purchased any since 2015, I think. I dont know what will cause me more grief - this update, or Microsoft and their bonked Auto Update tool for Office 365.

Well it sounds like the Air isn't for you. I've used them and have friends who own one and they love it. You can't make everyone happy though.

 

[NickName99]

I tried this so I won't know till the next update but I suspect it will work. It's a bit much for non tech people though.

I agree, they clearly don’t want typical users disabling auto update, or it wouldn’t be such a pain. I had to deal with it to avoid Windows updates from interfering with my eGPU.

 

[macfan90]

fine with me. I have auto updates on my Mac and phone and watch and Apple TV. it's just easier. it's annoying when people on forums complain about incompatible items when they purposefully stay on OS's many years old. stay current, it's not hard.

 

[russell_314]

What person with any ethics and interest in the fair treatment of workers would even consider accepting a gift card from a reprehensible operation like Amazon? Sadly I know the response to my question is millions would as all they care about is speedy delivery and low cost.

Me! It's my favorite online shopping site!

 

[techwhiz]

Its the first time i'm still running the previous OS (Mojave) and refuse to upgrade since i started using OS X during Panther. Catalina has been horrendous, and nearly destroyed my data (thankfully i had backups).

I'm still on Mojave on the machine I'm typing on.
Since Catalina drops 32Bit support, it will be a while before I move.
I'm not interested in buying/updating software when Apple decides too change the OS.
I never take an OS update when released, because I can't afford to have my machines go down.

I need to wait for some of my software vendors to verify compatibility.
Not so much on my laptop, but my MacPro runs ProTools and all I need is to have my system DOA after a software upgrade.

I usually lg a year behind so they can work out all their bugs. I'm on Mojave 10.14.5

 

[Aston441]

After 9 years away from Linux (went to OSX because it was the superior OS at the time), I’ve gone back to Linux.

Apple and Microsoft are just to spooky creepy weird now.

 

[russell_314]

I'm still on Mojave on the machine I'm typing on.
Since Catalina drops 32Bit support, it will be a while before I move.
I'm not interested in buying/updating software when Apple decides too change the OS.
I never take an OS update when released, because I can't afford to have my machines go down.

I need to wait for some of my software vendors to verify compatibility.
Not so much on my laptop, but my MacPro runs ProTools and all I need is to have my system DOA after a software upgrade.

I usually lg a year behind so they can work out all their bugs. I'm on Mojave 10.14.5

This sounds like a very smart approach by IT. Many companies do this with Windows.

 

[Expos of 1969]

Me! It's my favorite online shopping site!

I am not surprised.

 

[4jasontv]

You cannot defer any updates on Windows 10 Home. On Pro and above, you can defer Windows feature updates for 90 days but you can only defer security updates for 30.

Works for me on 10 Home.

 

[johnnylarue]

We rugged individualists have it pretty rough these days. 😤

 

[russell_314]

Works for me on 10 Home.

There is a post above that I quoted shows how to do it with group policy editor. It seemed to work on my PC and if so it's a lifesaver!

 

[XXPP]

Good move Apple. Force this idiots to upgrade.

 

[tangfish]

As soon as I’m sure I won’t lose emails, I’ll upgrade. Until that happens, I have to keep my dock hidden just to avoid seeing that nagging red badge on my system preferences. (Yes I know it can be removed, but every time I have to show and hide the dock it’s a little reminder that Catalina is a POS)

 

[Expos of 1969]

Good move Apple. Force this idiots to upgrade.

They can't spell or use correct grammar but as long as they update

 

[512ke]

Why doesn't Apple just force us all to upgrade, then compensate us for our productivity losses and the costs of our expensive software that no longer works properly after the upgrade? Voila. /s

 

[amartinez1660]

Same here. My first modern OSX was Panther too. On this case I plan too keep Mojave as long as I can because several issues (not mentioning Catalina horror stories), but one of my concern, I still not convinced yet to moving my curated gigantic iTunes library into Apple Music app.

I don’t know what’s up with Music app and if you can, avoid it completely, it’s missing features or something.
On my side it’s been proven impossible to upload songs using “Add to iCloud Library”, it’s just not there, I do it rarely when the song is just nowhere to be found on Apple Music or iTunes Store and I had it from before, a CD or whatever... and going to the forums and help, there’s always a topmost answer that completely avoids the question and babbles back useless Apple documentation excerpts and then points to the support page. I hate this, it’s easy “can’t find the Add to iCloud button”, proper answer is “it’s here or its been removed”. Not “when using Apple Music blah blah blah, the icon, blah blah blah, make sure to login blah blah blah” with no mention whatsoever of where THE DAMN ADD TO ICLOUD FUNCTIONALITY IS.

Now, check this out, my solution: on boot camp I have Windows 7 (yes, 7, sue me) and the iTunes version there still allows for that functionality that Catalina decided to remove. We are officially in the netherworld, using Windows to use functionality intended for Apple ecosystem. Effin christ.

 

[Taylor Walraven]

Funny that the Mac Pro 5,1 needs to jump through hoops to get Catalina but newer, lower-specced systems need to jump through hoops to stay away from it, and Apple is closing the hoops.