So go to android, i guess, which is all ad-driven.
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I guess we have different expectations for Apple and the ideals I thought they held (or at least once did)
I don't think it's ok for them to be leaning into AD revenue all across their products
Part of why I've loved Apple is their being a product driven company ... and all of this AD revenue stuff is coming from Tim's "Services Revenue" push
The problem with ADs is that the revenue they produce is like a drug and it wildly distorts business incentives
I know it's just a rumor, but I am disappointed in the direction of where Apple has been going lately, starting to lose all trust in Apple.
Just gonna leave this here…
Steve Jobs' Idea for Ad-Supported Operating Systems Was Nearly a Reality
Back in late 2009, an Apple patent application surfaced showing that the company had explored ad-supported operating systems, with the user receiving...
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They were exploring it again in 2009, around the same time that they were lowering the price of macOS. Not a coincidence.
And by the way, despite what Steve said about iCloud, they immediately… started advertising it to all customers the minute that it came out.
When you open Photos and it demands you set up an iCloud photo library, that’s an advertisement.
When you get those storage full pop-ups, those are advertisements.
Can’t change another’s opinion, however, it’s my belief when the service is free you are the product. I bought the hardware and it’s not as if there aren’t ads in other places, such as the App Store.
I would really prefer these ads didn’t proliferate throughout the ecosystem.
I wonder if SJ would be asking TC (from the great beyond) why this wasn’t done sooner.
I’m genuinely interested in what does it mean to lose trust?
Does that mean your next phone will be a model that supports android?
The more you think about it, the more you come to the view that Apple products are just about driving services revenue - the App Store for their cut of sales, the constant nags to subscribe to iCloud and developing services that REQUIRE it, the inoperability with other platforms to deny you the full benefits unless you go all in with Apple. And now ads.
And you're still expected to pay top dollar for the hardware.
I hate the orange part of those earnings reports. Software can’t replace hardware
The lack of ads is one of the items that sets Apple apart!
100% accurate
Over time, Tim has been "boiling the frog" on the longer term user base, goodwill and brand reputation that took a long time to build up
The lack of better alternatives allows him to keep doing this ... but it's so depressing to watch and be a part of
The Cory Doctorow saying comes to mind
(can't say it here, but if folks search for his name it pops right up)
This is why I ultimately dropped my last paid “live” TV streaming service. I make do with OTA for local news, some free streaming channels available on my TV, ad a couple of paid “premium” on-demand services. Still saving a bunch of money compared to the live TV service.
Ageed - I switched my older relatives over to PlutoTV as it has the kinds of content they were watching anyways ... with ADs ...but they aren't paying anything for it.
In my view, streaming content should either be free with ADs or paid with no ADs
One doesn't have to pay top dollar for Apple hardware, in fact, one doesn't have to pay anything for it as there is plenty of competition. (And we keep getting told competition is good) And yeah Apple is clearly trying to up it's services revenue.
But until Apple annoys most of it's customer base, and said customer base goes to the competition, they will keep doing what they are doing.
Apple clearly shouldn't take their customers for granted, but at the same time, a lot of nonsense is posted online by Apple customers.
Yep. I'm sure the next move will be to offer a Maps subscription that removes the ads...
It will be called "Maps Pro" and will offer additional features. (Tim Cook, don't read my terrible ideas!)
Ah, to me Apple has always had advertising in their products.
The original iPod touch had a Starbucks integration with the built-in iTunes app.
One of Steve Jobs top eight features of the iPhone 4… was called iAd.
When you purchased an iPod, you were pretty much required to download iTunes (advertisement) where you were incentivize to buy music (advertisement) that the record labels Apple partnered with promoted (advertisement) which would provide a constant cash flow to Apple.
Same with the App Store. Just like record labels basically controlled what was promoted on iTunes, I always just assumed developers could give apple some money to get higher placement. Just obvious business.
Same with iCloud, you’re pretty much prompted to enable it immediately (advertisement) for all of your phones built-in features (several advertisements) and once your storage gets full it’s time to pay (advertisement) and while you’re at it might as well throw in a couple other bundled services (advertisement).
And this wasn’t just under Tim.
Steve’s Apple literally required a $99 subscription fee just to use “Find My iPhone”.
OTA is about 25% advertising per hour. I would rather pay for less ads than watch 15 minutes worth of ads in an hour show. I admit though, sometimes I have no choice.
The whole point of paying a premium via the "Apple tax" is to avoid being the product.
Another reason for me to hate Tim Cook. Total scumbag move.
Another reason for me to hate Tim Cook. Total scumbag move.
There's a huge philosophical difference between using services that are free, where you are the product and buying hardware, where you are not the product. Just saying it doesn't make it true.
So much emotion for the CEO of a corporation. The only way to "stick it to apple" is buy the competition.
When in trouble or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout? (First quote I found 😁)
I left Apple before primarily because I didn't like their business practices, and spent several good years with MS Surface Pros and Huawei phones. The sheer speed of the Apple Silicon drew me back and I bought an M2 Mac Mini and an iPad Mini 6 (since changed for an Air).
I can easily change away from Apple next cycle if I feel the need to, and I'm starting to think that I probably will.
At least with other companies their generalised level of evil is explicit, and you know what you're getting.
Why should I care that OTA is about 25% ads when I’m paying 0$ for it? The problem with live channel services is you are paying a lot of money only to get fed ads. The percentage is pretty irrelevant at that point.
We already have those, whenever Apple offers us a free trial of something or other.
This could suck.
If there’s no transparency about what results are paid and which aren’t, and if the paid ones appear before the most relevant then I will probably switch to some other navigation app.
If anything they could at least let us iCloud+ subscribers get Maps ad free?
In a broader context, I am very worried by this as I already suspected Apple to gradually introduce more ads after they started working them into the App Store.
They’ve already done step A. So B, C, D and the rest will follow and we’ll eventually see ads in most of Apple’s apps and services?
😟
If there’s no transparency about what results are paid and which aren’t, and if the paid ones appear before the most relevant then I will probably switch to some other navigation app.
If anything they could at least let us iCloud+ subscribers get Maps ad free?
In a broader context, I am very worried by this as I already suspected Apple to gradually introduce more ads after they started working them into the App Store.
They’ve already done step A. So B, C, D and the rest will follow and we’ll eventually see ads in most of Apple’s apps and services?
😟