At this point I think you're just posting to read your own words.
PS - IJReilly wasn't the OP. But good job.
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At this point I think you're just posting to read your own words.
PS - IJReilly wasn't the OP. But good job.
i dont care how long it took google maps to get were they were in fall 2012. that was what the customers had become used to and to replace it with a lesser product reeks of contempt for the customers. this kind of comparison you made is nonsense. is the tesla comparable with the model t? does tesla hide behind that kind of excuses or do they compare themselves with the contemporary market?
apple maps dosent even have directions where i live.
That's why they apologized. If it was truly ego driven, they never would've felt the need to do that. Were they a little cocky that they could match Google, or at least provide a serviceable replacement? Yes. They recognized they were wrong and admitted it.
I don't believe for one second that they ever thought they could do it better than Google. They didn't want to be under Google's thumb in any way so they saw a need to do their own.
I'm sure if Apple allowed Siri to interact with other applications like Google Maps the results would favour Google Maps more.
I know whenever I plan a Journey I use Google Maps or the TomTom Application but if I'm already driving and want to "navigate home" I am forced to use Apple maps through Siri unless I pull over to enter details into Google/TomTom.
I never suggested he was. His point was that Google gets it wrong too from time to time. A counter to the "Apple Maps is always wrong Google is always right" sentiment.
In my opinion Google Maps tends to have more accurate directions and better POI information. When given an address directly I've had little issue with Apple Maps being better or worse than Google Maps. When given a point of interest it rarely has taken me where I needed to go, while switching over to Google Maps gets me to the right location with just searching for the POI. Not to say that's never happened using Google Maps, but Google Maps is my go to when Apple Maps has taken me astray.
However Google Maps does not have a night mode on iOS so I tend to use Apple Maps at night. Though I wish apple would just give me a button to switch to night mode, it's been dark for 20-30 minutes sometimes and it still is on day mode. I think they use the time rather than the light sensor to determine when to flip it over.
I don't think Apple Maps is this big fiasco the media makes it out to be, nor is it the best thing ever that the apologists make it out to be. It works, it works pretty well. Currently Google Maps works a little better IMO, with some quirks that make it undesirable in certain situations. They are both free for my device so I don't have any qualms switching to whichever works better for a specific situation.
if the backlash is big enough (which it was) then i see no reason why you cant apologize if the decision was ego driven.
ok. but why put your customers through that? there are endless amounts of licensing deals these companies make because they are needed to make a product of a certain standard. but when it comes to maps who cares?
what breakup could be next. will apple try another social network? will they take over weather app completely if marissa does something they dont like?
but see im speaking as a user that has watched apple toy with imovie through the years and not do anything to improve iwork as well so apple for me has to prove itself to be both capable and dedicated enough to make this work in the long run.
It's not my "view" that Google is a threat to other tech companies, including Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, Yahoo, TomTom, the list goes on and on. It's a simple fact.
It's called competitive business. Look into it sometime.
Amazingly, Google has convinced you and others that they're some sort of magical and benevolent tech fairy here to grant everyone their wildest wishes at no cost to them. It's all unicorn farts and rainbow sprinkles when Google is involved. Must be the primary colors and propeller hats that have you swayed.
Good grief.
no i just dont think that any of the other companies you mentioned are any better
You're implying an argument I never made. (Straw man.)
You also implied that Google is not a threat to anyone. It is this erroneous notion I have responded to.
I'm done now. Before the mods swoop in and yell at me.
I'll believe it when I see it (outside of the US)
All I can say is that POI corrections I submitted the first day Maps was out still have not been corrected. Apple Maps sucks horribly where I am, and I have no faith whatsoever this upgrade will bring significant improvements outside the US. I guess we'll see.
All I can say is that POI corrections I submitted the first day Maps was out still have not been corrected. Apple Maps sucks horribly where I am, and I have no faith whatsoever this upgrade will bring significant improvements outside the US. I guess we'll see.
Googles had missteps as well. Latitude never worked right (on any platform). Thankfully Glympse came out and works fantastic. And this push to chromeafy everything is getting a bit out of hand. They recently dropped Google Notifier which as heavily used (at least in my circles).
You mean the backlash that was mostly media driven?
You're making it sound so melodramatic. If it's just a maps app, and "who cares?" then what exactly did they "put (their) customers through"?
Apple saw the need for its native maps app to have turn-by-turn navigation. Google wasn't willing to provide it under the terms Apple wanted. As simple as that.
All I can say is that POI corrections I submitted the first day Maps was out still have not been corrected. Apple Maps sucks horribly where I am, and I have no faith whatsoever this upgrade will bring significant improvements outside the US. I guess we'll see.
I've never seen Apple correct any error I've reported. It's absurd. If they want a great (and viable) mapping product, they need to take action on community-sourced information.
no im explaining my view. based on your previous post you think im some google fanataic. i was merely rectifying that misunderstanding. i was certainly not trying to imply you think google is worse or better than the others. just stating that its much of the same imo.
and i made no mentions of google being a threat or not. all ive said is that i think we (apple customers) deserve products that work and improve upon the previous release.
This, to me, is the more concerning thing about Apple Maps. Maps are incredibly complex, I think we all understand that there are going to be errors. How you respond to these errors is an important part of the mapping service. At least on the face of it google is more responsive to mapping errors, and offers a support section on reporting errors.
https://support.google.com/maps/answer/162873?hl=en
A cursory glance at apples support site provided no such support information. There is a report a problem in the App but it would be nice to have a little more information about that process.
After reading this I had to try it for myself, it seems to be fixed. Do I smell a google shill?
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im not gonna comment on if it was media driven or not. if that was then what isnt? it was a downgrade on the previous maps app. there were plenty of real life cases online. as i say there still arent directions where i live.
sorry i wasnt clear enough. i meant to portray apples view of the importance of the maps app that it didnt matter enough to them to offer its customers the best available one. i apologize for this.
bingo.
Ugh, I hope Maps is not the headline feature of iOS 8. They still have places listed in the wrong location and seemingly refuse to fix them - I have submitted one around 5 times over the past two years as it puts a restaurant in the middle of a residential neighborhood when it is actually across the street.
All I want from iOS 8 is something similar to Android's intent system - let the user choose which app to handle specific data types if they want to. That way I don't have to keep the Mail app logged into my email just to send emails from other apps...
All I want from iOS 8 is something similar to Android's intent system - let the user choose which app to handle specific data types if they want to. That way I don't have to keep the Mail app logged into my email just to send emails from other apps...
I've never seen Apple correct any error I've reported. It's absurd. If they want a great (and viable) mapping product, they need to take action on community-sourced information.
Agreed. Isn't that supposedly why Apple posted all those job openings were heard about here?
that would mean maps would have been the headline features twice in 3 years. i guess one could expect their maps would be the best one available by far.
agree but unlikely. if anything it seems we are getting more limited and restricted
I'm referring to the fact that Apple is under a microscope and that any supposed screw-up--no matter how large or small--tends to get blown out of proportion.