Apple May Be Modifying iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 to Skirt German Sales Ban

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple may be working on new versions of the iPhone 7, 7 Plus, 8, and 8 Plus with updated modem hardware that does not violate the injunction levied against Apple in Germany.

    As FOSS Patents points out, German website WinFuture says that sources in German retail have said that Apple will introduce modified iPhone 7 and 8 models that it will be able to sell in the Germany despite the sales ban enacted in December.


    WinFuture says that Apple is set to begin selling modified versions of the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 in approximately four weeks, and German retailers have already received lists of model numbers for the new devices.

    The site does not list all of the new model numbers, but includes MN482ZD/A, which is a black iPhone 7 Plus with 128GB of storage, and MQ6K2ZD/A for the 64GB iPhone 8 in space gray. Neither of these new model numbers matches existing model numbers for the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8.

    According to FOSS Patents, WinFuture has a credible reputation in Germany, and, coupled with the discovery of the new model numbers, there's a good chance this is true despite the fact that it has yet to be confirmed by an official source.

    In its ongoing dispute with Qualcomm, Apple has had older iPhone models banned in both China and Germany. In China, Apple was able to get around the ban with a software update and has continued selling iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 models in that country.

    In Germany, things are more complicated. A German court says that some iPhone models equipped with Intel modems infringe on Qualcomm's hardware patents, so there is a hardware issue that Apple needs to address. Apple has been ordered to cease the import and sale of infringing iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 models in Germany, both at its own retail stores and from third-party suppliers.

    Introducing tweaked versions of the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 without the allegedly infringing hardware would allow Apple to continue to sell its older iPhones in Germany while the legal battle with Qualcomm goes on.

    Article Link: Apple May Be Modifying iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 to Skirt German Sales Ban
  2. Baymowe335 macrumors 68040

    Oct 6, 2017
  3. bladerunner2000 macrumors 68020


    Jun 12, 2015
    Put the headphone jack back in and you've got a phone people will want.
  4. dumastudetto macrumors 68030

    Aug 28, 2013
  5. Baymowe335 macrumors 68040

    Oct 6, 2017
    People aren’t clamoring for headphone jacks...that’s why they are mostly gone.
  6. lostczech macrumors member


    Sep 8, 2009
    I think it's funny Apple will retool older models for one country. Are the 7 and 8 still selling THAT well in Germany?
  7. mtneer macrumors 68030


    Sep 15, 2012
    Is this a move just to stick it to QCOM or is there huge demand for the older phones in Germany to warrant spending engineering and manufacturing resources to cook up a one-country specific SKU so late in the game?
  8. H2SO4 macrumors 601

    Nov 4, 2008
    What was the last one you bought?
  9. kemal macrumors 65816


    Dec 21, 2001
    Make a 7 with a 4" screen and a headphone jack. You'll have something there. (SE2)
  10. Just Jeff macrumors newbie

    Just Jeff

    Jan 24, 2017
  11. KPandian1 Suspended

    Oct 22, 2013
    Just what everyone with great headphones from before the crappy Bluetooth ones want - I do.

    Is Apple bothering to listen?

    They are gone from smartphones because apple removed them. Reason - Beats.

    Have you seen the sales of the iPhone SE, or the refurbished iPhone 7 models in recent times?
  12. AppleHaterLover macrumors 65816

    Jun 15, 2018
    I think it’s the former. The iPhone 7 would probably be discontinued in just a few months anyway. They’re doing this because they can.

    Also, maybe they need these phones to issue replacements to people.
  13. lostczech macrumors member


    Sep 8, 2009
    Yes, the SE is "flying off the shelves" if you will, but I haven't seen the iPhone 7 ever sell out. Also, you are speaking to refurbished phones (at a discount), this will be a brand new phone sold at regular price, in one country.
  14. KazKam macrumors 6502


    Oct 25, 2011
    According to a recent MR article, the iPhones 7 and 8 made up 35% of all iPhones sold in the 2018 holiday quarter... I don't know about Germany specifically, but globally, that's a helluva lotta iPhones 7/8.
  15. dannyyankou macrumors 604


    Mar 2, 2012
    Scarsdale, NY
    I don’t know about Germany, but the 7 through 8+ were pretty popular in November

  16. Plutonius macrumors 604


    Feb 22, 2003
    New Hampshire, USA
    Apple should also put the floppy drive back into in their computers.
  17. lostczech, Feb 6, 2019
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2019

    lostczech macrumors member


    Sep 8, 2009
    If this new model were sold everywhere, sure, that makes sense. However, for one market, and for models that will only wane in sales numbers over time, it comes across as pettiness towards Qualcomm more than continuing sales of older iPhone models
  18. BvizioN macrumors 601


    Mar 16, 2012
    Manchester, UK
    Or maybe a phone you want. I am part of people and I wouldn't give a toss about headphone jack.
  19. flygbuss macrumors 6502


    Jul 22, 2018
    Stockholm, Sweden
    It’s a country with more then 80 million people. Sure it’s not China, but for a European country this is quite a number.
    I think it’s the most populous country in Europe.
  20. Glideslope macrumors 603


    Dec 7, 2007
    A quiet place in NY.
    Right, I’ll bring out the 75 Accord for a spin as well. ;)
  21. elbowrm macrumors newbie


    Apr 29, 2016
    Hey, why not take it back even more??

  22. Unity451 macrumors regular


    Aug 29, 2011
    I miss CRT monitors... life was simpler back then.
  23. zorinlynx macrumors 603


    May 31, 2007
    Florida, USA
    Can't they just sell the models with the Qualcomm chipset over there? Or did Qualcomm stop selling them chips?
  24. Amacfa macrumors 68000


    May 22, 2009
    And the floppy disk.
  25. ph001bi macrumors regular

    May 26, 2015
    Businesses usually buy one or two versions behind the current version.
    MVNOs also tend to offer deals on older devices rather than new ones, so yes, the 7 and 8 are probably still selling very well.

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