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Apple May Create Subscription Service Bundle That Includes Original TV Content, Apple Music and News
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I actually am. I opted out of everything they let me opt out of, and the first call came within a week. I never, NEVER had any such nonsense with RCN, and the service was faster and less expensive.
You are aware that the show with that truly does hit all 4 quadrants is on Netflix, right?
It’s called Stranger Things.
JRobinsonJr
macrumors 6502a
Spot on! The whole point of cutting cable is to reduce expense and eliminate waste. If I have to subscribe to multiple streaming services, with varying degrees of overlap and large libraries of things I don't want/need, just to get a few original programs... then we've just traded one demon for another.
loekf
macrumors 6502a
Why bother, it will be US-only anyways.
PickUrPoison
macrumors G3
Apple can easily access a tremendous amount of content. I can see a la carte and bundles of the following components:
1) Apple original content. Bundled free with Apple Music and possibly other content services. By the end of the year they may have a couple dozen original content series, and 50 or more by the end of next year.
2) Licensed video content. Existing TV and theatrical content can be bundled with Apple’s original content, just like Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, etc.
3) Over the top network TV/cable channels. Like Sling, DirecTV Now, Playstation Vue, YouTube TV, Hulu, AT&T, etc. Apple could also start bidding on major league sports seasons or championship events if they want to.
4) Apple Music. With Apple’s original content continuing to be bundled for free.
5) The Texture magazine content. As the article mentions: People, Time, Forbes, ELLE, National Geographic, Rolling Stone, Vogue, and hundreds more.
6) Offering subscriptions and aggregating other paid premium content channels (like Amazon Prime does) for HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, Starz, CBS All access, and many others.
7) Books/audiobooks. iBooks is being re-branded as Apple Books, so something is happening there. Could be print and possibly audiobooks.
All (or most) of the above could be consumed using AppleTV, iOS or macOS at a minimum. Maybe Android and/or Windows and other video devices like Roku or with Apple’s tvOS running directly on a TV.
1) Apple original content. Bundled free with Apple Music and possibly other content services. By the end of the year they may have a couple dozen original content series, and 50 or more by the end of next year.
2) Licensed video content. Existing TV and theatrical content can be bundled with Apple’s original content, just like Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, etc.
3) Over the top network TV/cable channels. Like Sling, DirecTV Now, Playstation Vue, YouTube TV, Hulu, AT&T, etc. Apple could also start bidding on major league sports seasons or championship events if they want to.
4) Apple Music. With Apple’s original content continuing to be bundled for free.
5) The Texture magazine content. As the article mentions: People, Time, Forbes, ELLE, National Geographic, Rolling Stone, Vogue, and hundreds more.
6) Offering subscriptions and aggregating other paid premium content channels (like Amazon Prime does) for HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, Starz, CBS All access, and many others.
7) Books/audiobooks. iBooks is being re-branded as Apple Books, so something is happening there. Could be print and possibly audiobooks.
All (or most) of the above could be consumed using AppleTV, iOS or macOS at a minimum. Maybe Android and/or Windows and other video devices like Roku or with Apple’s tvOS running directly on a TV.
djcerla
macrumors 68020
This will be influential only if they expand the service worldwide.
They might be able to compete in US, but if they don't offer it to a wider public it will be the same as for Apple News and TV, which are anyways relevant only in US. The rest of the world, doesn't even care.
They might be able to compete in US, but if they don't offer it to a wider public it will be the same as for Apple News and TV, which are anyways relevant only in US. The rest of the world, doesn't even care.
where is it
macrumors 6502
One subscription is better sometimes but only if their are standalone options too.
"Apple has previously attempted to build a television subscription service that offers shows and movies from third-party content providers, but it was never able to establish the deals necessary to make that happen."
You would think Apple would be the one on top here, not Netflix, as Apple has more money to throw around, yet when it comes to "original" content and easy deals to shows, guess where its all coming from: Netflix.
And because of that, Netflix wins in my little-black book 😀
"Apple has previously attempted to build a television subscription service that offers shows and movies from third-party content providers, but it was never able to establish the deals necessary to make that happen."
You would think Apple would be the one on top here, not Netflix, as Apple has more money to throw around, yet when it comes to "original" content and easy deals to shows, guess where its all coming from: Netflix.
And because of that, Netflix wins in my little-black book 😀
How Apple didnt dominate this space a decade ago amases me. They just watched the rise of spotify and Netflix and did nothing. Actually worse than nothing, they purchased "beats".
dragje
macrumors 6502a
I might be interested, but only if the following criteria are in place:
- able to have a free 1-month or 2-weeks trial subscription with the possibility to cancel the subscription. Many alternatives do come with these kinds of subscriptions.
- able to have a discount on the prize when the same variables are in place, the same we see for a 'family account' with Apple Music which makes it way more interesting in terms of prices. I have 6 family members attached to Apple music that results in €14,99 / 6 = €2,50 a person per month.
- able to cancel the subscription any time without any penalties, I think this is even bound by European laws. For example, I recently to an account on HBO just because I wanted to see a specific tv-show. I cancelled the subscription few weeks after I was done watching this specific tv-show. So I paid the minimal sum of 1-month subscription. Nothing more, nothing less, no questions asked no regulations of any kind.
If I was Apple tough, which I'm fully aware that I'm not Apple, I would include the tv-series with an Apple Music account together for the same prize. This makes the whole bundle way more appealing for new customers, especially those people used to have a Spotify account because then you'll get so much more with Apple for the same prize.
- able to have a free 1-month or 2-weeks trial subscription with the possibility to cancel the subscription. Many alternatives do come with these kinds of subscriptions.
- able to have a discount on the prize when the same variables are in place, the same we see for a 'family account' with Apple Music which makes it way more interesting in terms of prices. I have 6 family members attached to Apple music that results in €14,99 / 6 = €2,50 a person per month.
- able to cancel the subscription any time without any penalties, I think this is even bound by European laws. For example, I recently to an account on HBO just because I wanted to see a specific tv-show. I cancelled the subscription few weeks after I was done watching this specific tv-show. So I paid the minimal sum of 1-month subscription. Nothing more, nothing less, no questions asked no regulations of any kind.
If I was Apple tough, which I'm fully aware that I'm not Apple, I would include the tv-series with an Apple Music account together for the same prize. This makes the whole bundle way more appealing for new customers, especially those people used to have a Spotify account because then you'll get so much more with Apple for the same prize.
dragje
macrumors 6502a
TV shows are not really Apple's thing... it never was. Besides that, Apple has a strict moral code where the company drives on. Meaning, tv-shows, or movies, containing strong language and scenes containing explicit nudity is something Apple doesn't want to distribute among its users. Don't expect a Game of Thrones variant on Apple TV-Shows or how they will brand their new services. Don't expect strong language.
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Abazigal
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To me, it seems inevitable.
No other company is doing music and video streaming plus news. Only Apple is in a position to offer all three since it owns the entire ecosystem, and can use a combined subscription to leverage on its existing Apple Music subscriber base and push them to their other streaming services as well.
Not sure if this qualifies Apple as a monopoly (maybe more like a big bully), but it sure seems like the obvious thing to do.
No other company is doing music and video streaming plus news. Only Apple is in a position to offer all three since it owns the entire ecosystem, and can use a combined subscription to leverage on its existing Apple Music subscriber base and push them to their other streaming services as well.
Not sure if this qualifies Apple as a monopoly (maybe more like a big bully), but it sure seems like the obvious thing to do.
Schnegg
macrumors 6502
I don't get the notion of "unbiased news". There is always a bias. The best we can hope for is that we know about it (full declaration) to understand where a perspective is coming from.
Xavier
macrumors 68030
Will Apple be able to strike a deal for new shows? I don't see HBO or even channels like AMC, NBC, CBS considering this when you are forced to sign up for their service.
I would enjoy a subscription to all iTunes content though. I spend a fair amount of money on movie rentals each month and also have Apple Music.
I would enjoy a subscription to all iTunes content though. I spend a fair amount of money on movie rentals each month and also have Apple Music.