Thunderbolt cables are usually very expensive so I can live with Apple selling this separately. However, Apple needs to include full speed USB-C cable or they will face worldwide wrath.
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Apple May Sell Optional iPhone 15 Pro USB-C Thunderbolt Cable
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I sometimes wonder why apple even bothers selling accessories, their cables are awful quality although I haven’t tried the braided ones, nobody in their right mind would pay that much for a Thunderbolt cable
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Where does this article say you have you use apples cables? Thunderbolt isn’t proprietary
Again, most of us would be happy just to have USB 3 speeds. 
Greedy, and foul - considering the rumoured $200 price increase. But I'll allow it. Truly in this case, for once, people will not notice the difference. Only photographers and videographers (like myself), will.
This is optional and a bad take. EU can tell Apple to stick it any-day. Lightning is a horrible, outdated connector and Apple knows it, look at the 2016 MacBook Pro, iPad Pro's, etc...
Can you elaborate on this? The EU set out to mandate that a single connector is used for charging devices - not sure how you think they are responsible for Apple behaving like Apple and drip-feeding features out and charging up the wazoo for accessories...
What do you mean...
A Thunderbolt cable is a Thunderbolt cable, it's not going to be designed specifically for an iPhone. Shorter yes, but that's about it.
Sounds like something Apple would do. 🙄
Sell the iPhone Pro for an exorbitant price and not include a proper cable.
Sell a "Pro cable" extra.
Sell a "150W Pro Power Adapter" extra.
Greedy AF.
Sell the iPhone Pro for an exorbitant price and not include a proper cable.
Sell a "Pro cable" extra.
Sell a "150W Pro Power Adapter" extra.
Greedy AF.
Apple created this mess, the EU are cleaning it up.
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I would love to get involved, can someone explain why we are upset about this?
Are we going with ...
Are we going with ...
- Should've happened years ago
- Should be included in the box
- Overpriced
Well first, the 110 vs 120W it’s like EV charger speeds and worrying about if the power plant at the far end is a 1 or 2gw plant (now that would be a charge connector!). We know USB-C can charge and run a MacBook Pro working hard, so your phone is just fine.
and even if you do backup via cable, given backups are incremental, after the initial it’s likely fractions of a second different between usb-c (very fast) and tb4 (extremely fast). Also it’s a phone, what giant data sets are you loading (other than movies), and sure I’ve realized at the last minute I forgot to download a video before a flight, and the car is arriving shortly and tb4 would have been way faster… I’m not saying there aren’t people out there who might need that extra boost, but I am guessing it is a very small minority compared to iPhone users who would be just fine with regular usb-c greatly dropping the cable price.
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I sometimes wonder why apple even bothers selling accessories, their cables are awful quality although I haven’t tried the braided ones, nobody in their right mind would pay that much for a Thunderbolt cable
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The majority of users won’t have any use for this cable since they’ll just use it to charge the phone and 150W is completely overkill since the phone won’t even support charging at that rate.
While I believe each company may do what they want and let the market decide, I’m unhappy with most of what the EU does, I am pleased to finally get usb-c on the iPhone.
Thunderbolt cables have always been expensive and I see no reason for Apple to include it just to decrease charging time. My 13 Pro already charges very fast on lightning and is even fairly quick on wireless charging. Both are usb-c cables.
How many people are moving GB of days to/from their phone on such a regular basis that they require added speed?
My guess is that the charging cable, as we know it, is approaching end of life. Maybe iPhone 17 or iPhone 18 won’t even have a data/charging port.
Thunderbolt cables have always been expensive and I see no reason for Apple to include it just to decrease charging time. My 13 Pro already charges very fast on lightning and is even fairly quick on wireless charging. Both are usb-c cables.
How many people are moving GB of days to/from their phone on such a regular basis that they require added speed?
My guess is that the charging cable, as we know it, is approaching end of life. Maybe iPhone 17 or iPhone 18 won’t even have a data/charging port.
It’s not “Apple” capping speeds, and I wouldn’t classify plain-old usb-c as “slow” for data transfers, it is slower compared to TB4, all of which is an international standard, apple is implementing it. I mean if they didn’t implement TB4 optionally, everyone would complain that they didn’t offer it. Now if they required it, even for charging, that would be a reason to be irate. Also how often do you sync the entire library compared to the deltas? Syncing just the deltas are why we can all backup/sync wirelessly. Like on Time Machine when my Mac initially went to backup, I plugged into the 2.5gb ethernet as via my 802.11ac was going to take like a week to complete the initial backup of several TB, but the deltas complete in a few seconds. And sure the recent photo shoot where I took about 1tb of RAW images at an airshow took a bit over wifi, but I just let it grind overnight, and as I edited the photos via wifi the hourly Time Machine backup wasn’t even noticeable, I assume the os assigned that to one of the i9 e-cores to compute the deltas and then throw them to the Mac mini that hosts my giant tb4 software raid.
Good grief, read the article. That's not what was said.
It's a "Pro" phone for a premium price – to include a cable that makes use of its feature should be a given. Whether or not users will make use of it is irrelevant.
After having to clean the usb c port in an iPad Pro , I’m all with wireless charging now
Man, talk about misunderstanding a rumor and running with it! There is absolutely NOTHING in these rumors suggesting Apple's cable will be required to achieve higher speeds. Where did some of you come up with that?
I know they won’t give us anything approaching 150w charging on the iPhone, but if they gave the pros a significant bump up from the ~30W or so they’re currently capable of… that’s a feature that would make me VERY happy.
I’m also very much looking forward to finally being able to take advantage of USB 3.0 data transfer speeds. The current usb 2.0 implementation of the lightning-USBC cable is painful.
I’m also very much looking forward to finally being able to take advantage of USB 3.0 data transfer speeds. The current usb 2.0 implementation of the lightning-USBC cable is painful.
God I hope that’s not true. Just jacking into a port on a charger at work when I am running and gunning on overnight call at the hospital and my phone is near empty (or my iPad Pro which is where I am writing my notes/ordering things) is super convenient vs finding some magical inductive Charger. Carrying a single usb cable in my pocket is easy, carrying the MagSafe thing is silly(every ward has chargers and the ED has one of those school locker/charger things where you can safely leave your device charging in a locked cabinet). The mag safe dinner plate thing makes total sense in a car or home, but on the run is stupid. The whole advantage of wireless charging is not to be plugging into a cable but if I have to carry that charging plate around it’s really the same thing. What we need is true Nikola Tesla wireless charging (yeah everyone with a pacemaker is going to die, cooked birds are falling from the sky, and AM radio will go to crap, but I am willing to make that sacrifice)
I agree for the time being. I rarely use wireless charging but the world is changing.
Soon coming are the days when every desk with have a coil in it and a fully charged battery will last a week or more with regular use.