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Apple Media Event Near April First?

I say can the ibook. and give us something cheap that proffesionals will still be able to use. A not sucky, OLED FLEXIBLE, consumer likable, origami killing, cool-factor 9000, geek-chic, tablet. with translucent plastic keyboard overlay! stick a knife in the face of every cheerleader apple user ever.

look at apples line... whos getting the short end of the pipe line geeks or automitons??

Pro------------------
MacBookPro
G5 (future mactel)

consumer--------------
le petit macbook
imac
emac
minimac

teenaged girls--------------
ipod petro
ipod nano
ipod video
ipod this
ipod that
ipod accessories
 
All I want is an iBook with a backlit keyboard. that's all...the iBook they have now, replace the PPC with a Intel, give it a backlit keyboard, maybe a new form, and I'd snap it up.
 
mcmillan said:
Still, a 13.3" iBook is very small, seeing something better than a GMA950 card would piss Intel Mac Mini users, considering that they also raised the price to $599.
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A 13.3" iBook would be twice as wide and a bit deeper than the Mac Mini, although not as thick. Like the MacBook Pro, it should have room for a GPU, and the added cost for the sort of card Apple usually puts into the iBook would only be $30-$50.

And, unfortunately, the price of the iBook, like that of the Mini, will probably increase to accomodate the increased cost for the Core processor.
 
I'm hoping for a 30th anniversary mac. One that can sit right alongside the 20th anniversary mac as being outrageously expensive and unbelievably cool.

I won't get one or anything, but that's what I'm hoping to see.

It's a little like going to the North American Auto Show and ogling all the prototypes. You know they'll never hit production, but you're just fascinated by what they can achieve.
 
No MacBook Will Have Backlit Keyboard

thejadedmonkey said:
All I want is an iBook with a backlit keyboard. that's all...the iBook they have now, replace the PPC with a Intel, give it a backlit keyboard, maybe a new form, and I'd snap it up.
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Ain't gonna happen. Backlit keyboards are how Apple sells MacBook Pros.
 
Is Canada's calender different than ours?!

MacMosher said:
ah.... hate to shut you down but they came out with a new mac mini a month or so ago...
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Feb. 28th, the last day of February this year, is when the new Intel Mac Mini's were introduced. Today is Saturday, March 11th.

11 days ago the new Intel Mac Mini was introduced. That is not even close to "a month or so ago".

Also, I agree with you that "no", the Mac Mini will not be updated within [or close to] a month of it's release.

iMeowbot said:
Let's be realistic, the "consumer" vs. "pro" distinction is pure marketing fluff. There are expensive machines and not-so-expensive machines, and you get more if you pay more. "Pro" is just tacked on there to make yuppies feel warm and fuzzy. That's about the size of it.
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You just contradicted yourself. The distinction between the "consumer" and "pro" lines is not simply "tacking Pro on there", but the fact that "you get more if you pay more."

Also, the ability to video span on the pro line, as opposed to only video mirror on the consumer line, has been a big enough distinction for a lot of people to decide between a PowerBook and an iBook, as well as the other list of differences.

Oh, and don't even start with the "you can hack the gpu to enable video spanning on the consumer line" junk, because even though we higher level computer users can, most iBook level users aren't even going to want to try to deal with such a thing.
 
MacQuest said:
You just contradicted yourself. The distinction between the "consumer" and "pro" lines is not simply "tacking Pro on there", but the fact that "you get more if you pay more."
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No, I didn't contradict myself. Under your misinterpretation, the iMac is a "pro" machine because you get more than what comes with the Mac mini, and it costs more.
Also, the ability to video span on the pro line, as opposed to only video mirror on the consumer line, has been a big enough distinction for a lot of people to decide between a PowerBook and an iBook, among other distinctions.
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The Intel iMac does spanning, so is it a "pro" machine?
 
SurfSpirit said:
These specifications make me think about witch computer... maybe will have to use Wintel!
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Yes, a wintel is a "witch" computer.

Hopefully the new 13' MacBook will meet your requirements and you can switch from the evil miCrapsoft witch product.

;)
 
iMeowbot said:
No, I didn't contradict myself. Under your misinterpretation, the iMac is a "pro" machine because you get more than what comes with the Mac mini, and it costs more.
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You are the one misinterpreting here. I never said that a higher price distinguishes a product line, but that features do and Apple can categorize it's products however it wants to.

You were the one who said "Let's be realistic, the "consumer" vs. "pro" distinction is pure marketing fluff. There are expensive machines and not-so-expensive machines, and you get more if you pay more. "Pro" is just tacked on there to make yuppies feel warm and fuzzy. That's about the size of it."

Apple's consumer line now has an entry/replacement computer level Mac Mini and the mid level AIO [All In One] iMac. However, there is still a very clear distinction between the consumer Mac and the professional Mac though. Primarily upgradeability, which most consumers don't care about nearly as much as pro users do.

iMeowbot said:
The Intel iMac does spanning, so is it a "pro" machine?
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As you can see in my post, I was specifically pointing out the iBook vs. the PowerBook. Although it is great that the iMac now supports video spanning, that feature alone does not put it in the professional category.

I was simply stating that it is a consideration that has made people choose a PowerBook over an iBook, or if that feature was not needed by the buyer, feel comfortable with their iBook purchase. That feature is [on the notebook] just one of many distinctions between the consumer and professional Mac.

I really hope they allow video spanning with the new MacBooks though.
 
it's not always clear to me if people post things they think we WILL see or things they WANT to see. take the purported macbook, for instance...we want to see a 13.3" laptop with wide screen, a dedicated video card, etc. but what we will see is a 12-13" laptop with an integrated card (yes, i firmly believe this)...we want it to be $999, but it will be $1099. we want it to have DVI out but it won't. i still think it will be a cool machine, but with integrated isight, a core single (and/or duo) chip, and better screen, it's not going to be cheap.
 
kugino said:
it's not always clear to me if people post things they think we WILL see or things they WANT to see. take the purported macbook, for instance...we want to see a 13.3" laptop with wide screen, a dedicated video card, etc. but what we will see is a 12-13" laptop with an integrated card (yes, i firmly believe this)...we want it to be $999, but it will be $1099. we want it to have DVI out but it won't. i still think it will be a cool machine, but with integrated isight, a core single (and/or duo) chip, and better screen, it's not going to be cheap.
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It's great that you have posted what you think we WILL see and the things that you WANT to see. As you stated above, "we will see" a 12-13" laptop priced at $1099 and firmly believe that it will have an integrated [graphics] card. A pretty safe bet considering that everyone else is predicting those same sizes, price point [+/- $100], and the integrated graphics debate seems to be 50/50. All your other speculation on the other stuff is pretty much in line with at least half of the other people's speculation on this thread and these forums in general.

But you re-enforced your belief by stating "what we will see...". So i guess we can all stop speculating on these rumor forums now because you have already told us "what we will see".

My point is that you basically have blasted everyone for posting what they think and want, when you've just done the same thing.

But wait, I am going to state what we will see:
- $999 - 13.3" MacBook [Combo drive, MAYBE integrated graphics and DVI, PROBABLY iSight and DEFINITELY other stuff]

- $1199 - 13.3" MacBook [Super drive, MAYBE integrated graphics and DVI, PROBABLY iSight and DEFINITELY other stuff]

I am here to tell everyone that "WE WILL NOT SEE" a Core Solo in any Mac other than the low end Mac Mini... but we might.

If we do:

- $999 - 13.3" MacBook [Core Solo, Combo drive, MAYBE integrated graphics and DVI, PROBABLY iSight and DEFINITELY other stuff]

- $1199 - 13.3" MacBook [Core Duo, Super drive, MAYBE integrated graphics and DVI, PROBABLY iSight and DEFINITELY other stuff]

Basically this would be the same spec and price difference we have now between the Mac Mini Core Solo w/Combo drive for $599 and the Mac Mini Core Duo w/Super drive]

I am absolutely SURE that we MAY see these things. Remember, you heard it here FIRST... or 384,295th.


In case you forgot, we are on "MacRumors."
 
512ke said:
I'll try again with the links. Sorry the other ones didn't work.

http://it.enorth.com.cn/system/2006/03/01/001244895.shtml

http://it.enorth.com.cn/system/2006/03/01/001244895_01.shtml

Any better?

512ke
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Holy Crap that stuff is amazing.

I don't know if anyone else noticed this but on the second link like a few down there's something that looks exactly like the MacBook Pro and when the Video iPod was first rumored it too was on a Chinese forum and then it came out.....hmm looks to me like these Chinese people on on to something. :p ;)

Edit: Okay, I just noticed something pretty cool at the bottom of the second link all the was on the left theres a picture of the (rumored) video iPod and then if you scroll down you see the same pictures that leaked out JUST before the actual video iPod was released...Hmm.
 
kugino said:
it's not always clear to me if people post things they think we WILL see or things they WANT to see. take the purported macbook, for instance...we want to see a 13.3" laptop with wide screen, a dedicated video card, etc. but what we will see is a 12-13" laptop with an integrated card (yes, i firmly believe this)...we want it to be $999, but it will be $1099. we want it to have DVI out but it won't. i still think it will be a cool machine, but with integrated isight, a core single (and/or duo) chip, and better screen, it's not going to be cheap.
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I agree with you that $1099 will likely be the price. No backlit keyboard. No monitor spanning. As for the rest, well, we'll see...
 
MacQuest said:
You are the one misinterpreting here.
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No, not at all. Let's look:
I never said that a higher price distinguishes a product line, but that features do and Apple can categorize it's products however it wants to.
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That is not what you wrote. What you did write was:
The distinction between the "consumer" and "pro" lines is not simply "tacking Pro on there", but the fact that "you get more if you pay more."
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It's right there in black and #fafafa. Either there is a genuine distinction between "consumer" and "pro" or it is marketing hooey. Make up your mind.
You were the one who said "Let's be realistic, the "consumer" vs. "pro" distinction is pure marketing fluff. There are expensive machines and not-so-expensive machines, and you get more if you pay more. "Pro" is just tacked on there to make yuppies feel warm and fuzzy. That's about the size of it."
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Yes, and then you contradicted that, and now you are agreeing with it. Make up your mind.
Apple's consumer line now has an entry/replacement computer level Mac Mini and the mid level AIO [All In One] iMac. However, there is still a very clear distinction between the consumer Mac and the professional Mac though. Primarily upgradeability, which most consumers don't care about nearly as much as pro users do.
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Ah, so it is an ephemeral distinction that changes from week to week! Since the CPU in the iMac can be upgraded, but the MacBook Pro doesn't offer that option, then the iMac is a more professional machine? Of course not, that's silly.

So what makes a pro machine pro, the applications? Nope. The "consumer" iMac can run all the same software as the "professional" MacBook Pro. The two are equally capable of running the same applications for the same users. The distinction is marketing fluff.

As you can see in my post, I was specifically pointing out the iBook vs. the PowerBook. Although it is great that the iMac now supports video spanning, that feature alone does not put it in the professional category.
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No, only marketing fluff does that. Every day, real world professional work is done on low end Mac hardware, and also on years-old higher-end Mac hardware that is seriously outclassed by today's low end. In fact, those expensive Quad G5 machines are a total waste of money for professionals who work primarily with software like Illustrator that sticks to one CPU.
I was simply stating that it is a consideration that has made people choose a PowerBook over an iBook, or if that feature was not needed by the buyer, feel comfortable with their iBook purchase. That feature is [on the notebook] just one of many distinctions between the consumer and professional Mac.
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The problem is that the "many distinctions" don't fall into a simple clear line between "consumer" and "professional". The features of the high end machines will be wasted on most professionals, and many consumers will be dissatisfied with the limitations of the lower end machines. The names given to the machines have little to no bearing on what is the appropriate hardware for the user.
 
Nice!!

Janneman said:
I’m also hoping for a new iBook/MacBook. Now the recent news of Apple investigating touch screen technology which can register multiple contact signals got me thinking… Sure a “tablet Mac” or large touch screen video iPod would be nice, but haven’t the last couple of years shown us that tablet pc’s aren’t as popular as the industry would have wanted them to be? And a touch screen iPod could have surely been developed and deployed long before the new multi-touch sensing technology, no? Now we also control our pods with just one finger movement or click.

A revolutional product I’d like to see being developed by Apple would be a new keyboard!
I know, might sound dull. But imagine a touch screen keyboard (that of course would benefit from the multi-touch sensing technology), without physical buttons. Your keyboard could be customized to your own liking, different settings for each program you use. It could serve as a next generation ‘joystick’ for gaming, or imagine adjusting your photos in Photoshop with a keyboard that actually let’s you move the colour sliders with your fingers … Granny wants to use the computer and switches to her own account, the keyboard now enlarges the buttons for her viewing pleasure. Or maybe your mother prefers an “AZERTY” keyboard layout to your preferred “QWERTY”. Pressing one button could open up a miniature set of other buttons. Keyboard backlighting would get a new meaning, heck, Apply could even build in a mini speaker that would make a ‘click’ sound to acknowledge that you pressed a ‘key’.

An input device like this would surely redefine ‘interface customisation’. And seeing as it would sit on your desktop, you needn’t worry about getting it scratched in your pants. :p
Nor would finger smudges be that annoying since this is your input device, and not the output device (computer screen) that you stare at all the time.

Now that’s a product I’d call 30th anniversary worthy!

*dreams on* >.<
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Your dream has just became one of mine, and is by one of the best far-fetched 30th anniversary ideas I've heard. I thought of a Nintendo DS meets MacBook Pro. Although I wonder about the lack of tactile feedback, just like I wonder about a iPod AV lacking it since Apple users have always priased the "click wheel" over things without tactile feedback... But if tactile feedback is proven overrated like shown in the Nintendo DS over Sony PSP - then you might be onto something. Definitely could be cooler then that dumb optimus keyboard that will never be released and if it is will cost hundreds of dollars if not close to a grand. Great thinking, Apple should hire you - You've got my support and I just had to requote that so it shows up again in this thread, awesome AWESOME idea!:D
 
Follow up...

Follow up to my previous post:

Seems that those websites with mock-ups and whatnot of possibly future laptops including the MacBooks, MacTablets, iPads, etc. has something similar called the MacBook DSP and a couple other images just like that. Seeing it, it seems pretty dang sweet and I wonder if it could be done - and by that I mean - done well. If so, that could be so very awesome but I'm sure it would make the machine thicker, battery life worse, and who knows if its even possible with everything underneath the keyboard and heat issues. Although if had something like that with a Ultra-Low-Voltage 1.5 core duo or something... Oh I'm just still dreaming, but I'd love to see such in action - I just fear that it may be trying to innovate too far. But then again, people wondered about the DS and look how that did with against the PSP. People are now wondering about the revolution and its controller, we'll see how that goes in the next Gen. war. But sounds like if all goes well, Nintendo could prove a good role model to apple... Nintendo is quite innovative, even if it doesn't work out so well for them some of the time. Although if the lines ever crossed and there was a platform war against MS/XboX, Sony/Playstation, could Apple team with Nintedo as a pretty sweet underdog tag team? Don't get me wrong, I own a XboX which I love very much (original, not 360 due to lack of funds, as further explained by my signature). I also owned the original PSX (PS1?) and loved that. But next Gen. I may have to spread my love to Nintendo for the first time since the N64 (at least as far as consoles go). That being said, reasons being the catalog of old game nestaulgia, pricepoint (aka cheapest), and wildcard factors like the controller and just crazy stuff in general. But if a DS can outsell a PSP, a iPod can outsell a Walkman, then maybe a Revolution can outsell a PS3. I've totally taken this post way off track of the thread, and I apologize. A negative effect caused by the current-time and my low-level of sleep the night before. Now to use that creativity to get back on track and discuss the 30th anniversary, Mac Rumors, and the (please Steve?) 30th Anniversary Mac.:eek:
 
Who wants to go to IHOP!!!

I'm not gonna nitpick/debate this with you because you're waffling on a contradictory statement you made:

iMeowbot said:
"Let's be realistic, the "consumer" vs. "pro" distinction is pure marketing fluff. There are expensive machines and not-so-expensive machines, and you get more if you pay more. "Pro" is just tacked on there to make yuppies feel warm and fuzzy. That's about the size of it."
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It's right there.

- So is consumer vs. pro "pure marketing fluff" like you said in the 1st sentence?
- Or, is there an actual [tangible or not] distinction between products because "you get more if you pay more" like you said in your 2nd sentence which contradicts your 1st sentence?
- Or, is you're 3rd sentence the one you want us to retain stating that "Pro is just tacked on there to make yuppies feel warm and fuzzy" which contradicts your 2nd sentence, but coincides with your 1st.

Inquiring minds want to know that if "That's about the size of it.", which position is "it"?

For some reason I feel like going to IHOP for some waffles.

It's okay to admit you're wrong or simply mis-worded something. Here I'll go first:

I'll admit I was unaware that the new iMacs aren't crippled in regards to the video spanning capabilities. Again though, I was specifically referencing the iBook vs. the PowerBook and stand by my affirmation that it still is a big enough distinction [among others] between the consumer line and the pro line to make people decide either between an iBook or a PowerBook/MacBook Pro, depending on whether they don't need it or if they do need/want it.

Granted, the lines are further blurred between the consumer and pro lines because of this, but not eliminated. As i stated previously, i would really like Apple to enable video spanning in the new MacBook.

SEE?! It's not that hard for a reasonable person to stand by what they believe/know, while at the same time being able to admit that their belief/knowledge was either incorrect or simply mis-worded.

Jump into the "Humility Pool' with me and afterwards order up a slice of "Humble Pie" with a sprinkle of "This is just a frickin' rumor site".

Here, I'll even put a cherry on top:

I thank "iMeowbot" for having learned that the new iMacs allow video spanning!!!
*gives sloppy, "Big Gay Al" kiss to iMeowbot's [upper] left cheek*

Of course that cherry also goes on top of the whip cream that goes on top of the big stack of IHOP waffles.

=)

Back OT.

Why yes, I believe the following to be true:
- $999 - 13.3" MacBook [Combo drive, MAYBE integrated graphics and DVI, PROBABLY iSight and DEFINITELY other stuff]

- $1199 - 13.3" MacBook [Super drive, MAYBE integrated graphics and DVI, PROBABLY iSight and DEFINITELY other stuff]
 
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