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I'm used to it.

I just really want a performant MBP in a smaller form factor. Other companies are able to do it, but I'm fully Mac for work. Don't mind if it gets a little thicker.

I'm in the same boat, I just think your wishes don't have much chance of happening. We will I think at best see a new 13" MBP with a new keyboard and a 32gb RAM option (no 14", no 6-Core). I'd be on the fence if I was to upgrade from my 2015 13" MBP. I've been stuck on 13" with the big bezels for 14 years, and stuck at 16gb RAM for 10. I'd get quad core and 32gb RAM over my 2015, but also lose out on ports that I still need at times and would have to get a bunch of new dongles/adapters.
 
I don't think you are being realistic here.
I don't think the tech is ready/feasible for such a small package. FaceID takes a lot of physical space, bigger screen draws more power and the form is thinner so how do you solve that?
The reason why X onwards are bigger and thicker is because of all the tech requiring bigger battery etc.

Sure you can do something you posted below but the battery life would be so poor that you would be the first one coming here complaining how it doesn't even last till lunch.

Sometimes I'm surprised how often people don't stop and think for a second. There is always a reason for for something not to be done certain way. In this case I think its all what I've described above that is preventing us from having what the image shows.

Please think about these things next time you go on a silly blast that is really unwarranted.

Then do it with Touch ID in screen or at the back. Battery life is way easier with a small screen, that consumes less.

Everything that You stated is an assumption wheras the real reason for no small phone are the App Store and Apple Arcade. They really think, that if they only sell phablets, they will sell more junk apps.
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That phone is not an SE2. If the screen is bigger than 4.0”, it’s not a one-handed phone. Not what SE fans want in the least.
I would love a screen-only-device reduced to 4 inches. But chances for that are even lower then what this image shows.
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The Financial reports would disagree...

The products Apple produce are great and this is shown in how many they sell


Have a look at Japanese toilet bowls. Some of them have a really nice design. They come with heated water tanks and a very comfortabe jet stream of warm water hits the dirty part of your body and cleanses it without chemicals, without mechanical irritation. Afterwards, a warm stream of air will dry of the skin.

These devices are very popular in Japan and a few other asian countries but almost not known in many parts of the world.

Billions of billions of toilet paper sheets are used everyday everywhere and billions of users think they "cleaned" something while all what they do is smearing everything around.

Apple's Phablets are like the trillion dollar business toilet paper. The SE is the sophisticated small business toilet.
 
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And yet you assume that also. Hilarious.

phablets are the trend, blame people not companies. Apple joined the trend later when it was obvious that people want big things.
App Store and Arcade is an assumption on your end (and not even good one).


Everything that You stated is an assumption wheras the real reason for no small phone are the App Store and Apple Arcade. They really think, that if they only sell phablets, they will sell more junk apps.
 
But will your wife? 😝
She's used to it.
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I'm in the same boat, I just think your wishes don't have much chance of happening. We will I think at best see a new 13" MBP with a new keyboard and a 32gb RAM option (no 14", no 6-Core). I'd be on the fence if I was to upgrade from my 2015 13" MBP. I've been stuck on 13" with the big bezels for 14 years, and stuck at 16gb RAM for 10. I'd get quad core and 32gb RAM over my 2015, but also lose out on ports that I still need at times and would have to get a bunch of new dongles/adapters.
Yeah I only have an iMac right now since I changed jobs and work from home. But I'd really like something that is mobile yet still fairly powerful because I have to run some virtual machines for my job as well as do a bunch of design work. More cores and RAM is useful for virtual machines, and especially the RAM since the integrated graphics share it.

I'm tired of being stuck in my basement studio all day and would like to go out to a coffee shop to work or even out on my deck or something when the weather is nice. I'm honestly pretty close to just picking up a 16" MBP with 8-core i9, 64GB of RAM, 2TB SSD and whatever the best GPU is and just be done with it for the next 8 years. But lately Apple has been dropping prices on components of older systems when they update newer systems so I thought maybe I would get a price drop on the SSD or RAM. But with the Coronavirus in full swing, I kinda doubt it. Also it doesn't help that my wife is encouraging me to buy it and she never encourages me to buy new things because she's really thrifty (and I am to an extent) but I'm getting a bit stir crazy working from home in the basement all day and I am making more money now to pay for it. I thought the iPad Pro and a top spec 5K iMac would be enough but I guess I was wrong. I gave my 2012 15" MBP away to my grandpa last year.
 
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Apple joined the trend later


And this is the key to all of Apples problems.

Apple was innovation. Apple was "Think Different". Apple wasn't founded to follow but to lead.

Apple is only a shadow of itself.

The trend was phones with physical keyboards, styluses and Windows mobile or Blackberry OS.

If Apple would have followed trend, I doubt the company would exist today.
 
I think you are wrong here. Apple was never really first to anything. They observe and then bring a great product to a market.
There were MP3 players before Apple, there were touchphones before Apple etc......
Apple doesn't really lead with tech but they lead with greatness (or execution of the tech).

Lately, that has diminished a bit to be honest. Sure the Mac Pro is amazing and the Display as well but its a bit late and rest of the line is suffering. The keyboard fiasco kinda showed what happens when Apple tries to do something new. iMac has been the same for years and pretty much zero innovation there.
Mac Mini update was ok but too little too late.
I could go on but I think we get it.
I think the best product from Apple I've ever had was 2008 Mac Pro with 30" ACD. iPhone 4 was awesome too.
I used to wait for keynotes and watch them live and be excited. Now I just know I will be disappointed and I usually watch recording and skip the boring parts.
Catalina? Well, Vista.

So, great that we have some crappy shows, beats headphones, Apple News+ that didn't take off etc. AirPower failed too. Basically, Apple is lagging on innovation. The only product that is being pushed is actually iPhone (for obvious reasons) but they pushed it too far. Flagship phone used to be fairly well priced but now the price is pretty much double.
So, I'm waiting to see what can Apple do in this decade. I think Tim is great but he is more focused on greatness in other areas (which is still fine) but less so on amazing products (which is not fine).




And this is the key to all of Apples problems.

Apple was innovation. Apple was "Think Different". Apple wasn't founded to follow but to lead.

Apple is only a shadow of itself.

The trend was phones with physical keyboards, styluses and Windows mobile or Blackberry OS.

If Apple would have followed trend, I doubt the company would exist today.
 
There were MP3 players before Apple...

Exactly... Apple was certainly a few years "late" to the MP3 party.

But people forget that Apple didn't make just an MP3 player when they finally entered the market. They eventually built an entire store platform that changed the music industry forever! That part often gets omitted whenever "Apple wasn't first" gets mentioned in the context of MP3 players.

Tons of companies made hardware... that's the easy part. Anyone could build a device that could read an MP3 file and pump the audio through headphones.

But Apple tends to think beyond the hardware. They are a platform company too.

It's the year 2020... and I can use my Apple account to buy a song today the same way I did 15 years ago when I bought my first iPod Nano.

That's incredible.

But notice how there isn't a Sandisk Sansa Music Store or Dell Ditty Music Store today... :p

Ok... maybe buying songs isn't a good example anymore in this age of music streaming. But I hope my point is still clear.

Yes... Apple didn't make the first MP3 player... or even one of the earliest MP3 players.

What they did was actually much bigger.
 
An updated Apple TV would be nice.
What would you expect it to have as part of an update?
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But Apple tends to think beyond the hardware. They are a platform company too.

It's the year 2020... and I can use my Apple account to buy a song today the same way I did 15 years ago when I bought my first iPod Nano.

That's incredible.

When the iTunes store opened, I gave away multiple gift certificates (printed on paper) for presents and it struck some people as odd (they could buy the CD and rip it), but as it caught on a few people commented later on what a great thing that turned into. I'm sure a few ended up in the trash, but I bet it got a few buying digital a few years earlier that they would have...
 
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A lower price and a better remote would suffice.

I don't think you're getting a much lower price since that screen says $179.

I'm surprised Apple hasn't sold some different remotes to get feedback from the public.

I got used to the new remote (took a while) but it's always going to be difficult for my mother. She needs 4-way arrows for navigation and play/pause, FF/REW buttons.

If you want cheaper, I maybe see a AppleTV Stick (that doesn't play games) in the future.
 
Fingers crossed for another protruding camera lens!
Definitely! I’m coming from a 6s, and I’m used to a relatively thin and light phone.

I want as close to 7mm and 140 grams as possible. I’ve got exactly zero interest in a heavy brick of an “SE2” where the lens would be flush with the back.
 
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