Because while 3:1 might be acceptable, it might also be suboptimal. For that reason, if Apple does a 120 Hz 6k or 7k Gen II Pro Display XDR, I think they'll use DP Alt Mode 2.0 to avoid high compression.
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Apple Mini-LED External Display Rumored to Offer ProMotion, But Launch Delayed to Early 2023
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Hopefully that's the second generation Studio Display. The first and current one feels like a product that was rushed to be completed on time for the Mac Studio release.
More the urgent need for it, I can hardly tell the difference when i switch back and forth on my ipad pro and mbp.
In terms of the tech I think it might be possible as a signal for 2 monitors: currently the Picture for the asd is transmitted in two halfs as if it were for 2 screens. The size of each frame is cut in half, I bet they could make it work using that system
3:1 is relatively low comparing to VDC-M which is even 5:1, and iPad Air may use VDC-M instead to drive under the significant lower speed.
Visually lossless is claimed by VESA.
Just because you can have even higher compression doesn't mean that 3:1 is optimum.
Further, you can't trust the people that developed the standard to do an unbiased evaluation of the standard. You need independent analysis, like this. Here they evaluate DSC at 8 bpp on a 24 bit signal, which is 3:1 compression. They found it performs well but that, contrary ot VESA's claims, it's not always visually lossless:
According to Allison, Robert S., et al. "75‐2: Invited paper: Large scale subjective evaluation of display stream compression." SID Symposium Digest of Technical Papers. Vol. 48. No. 1. 2017:
"The codec was visually lossless on most images that represent
typical and difficult image content down to 8 bpp or better for
24-bit 4:4:4 content. As expected, performance was generally
better with equivalent 4:2:2 or 4:2:0 content. Performance on
some images was not visually lossless, however, those images
were challenging images with high entropy."
That's why I wrote the following:
Good to see a variant with ProMotion. Should be selling for a minimum of $1999, considering the Studio Display is $1600.
You shouldn’t worry about that too much. DSC can be 3:1 but it doesn’t mean it must be 3:1. DisplayPort 1.4 can carry larger data per second.
Should be selling for MAXIMUM of 1600USD, considering current Studio Display is basically same old tech as LG Ultrafine 5k that cost 999USD back in 2016.
More precisely, it was introduced at $1300, and then Apple dropped its price to $974. But yeah, as time goes on the same tech should be less expensive, not more.
The bigger issue is that a laptop + external monitor for home use is a pretty common setup these days. Yet Apple has configured its OS's so that they don't look good on anything other than a Retina display, and Apple doesn't provide a consumer-priced external Retina monitor; and neither does anyone else.
This makes a consumer laptop + good quality 27" external monitor much less expensive in the PC world than the Mac world because, with Windows (and how Windows renders text) a 27" looks really good with a <$500 4k monitor. With MacOS, you need a $1600 5k Retina monitor to get really nice-looking text in a 27" external. That's fine if you're a business, but not so good if you're a typical consumer.
To put it another way: This is essentially the same display as in the 2020 27" iMac, whose starting price was $1800. Is it really reasonable to be asking $1600 for the dispaly alone? [Yes, there are some minor improvements, but those are simply what one would expect with two years' advance in display tech—if they still sold the iMac, you'd see them there as well.]
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While Apple is taking for ever to release a decent monitor, I'll be getting the Cool Master GP27-FQS.
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I'm considering getting the new Sony InZone M9 Montior for my 2021 MacBook Pro external display for photo and video editing and I do have a PS5.
Wondering how much better this rumored display would be and at what cost difference as the M9 is around $899
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Check out this monitor as well:
GP27-FUS - Cooler Master Summit
Whether it's for working, gaming or content creation, it'll deliver superior image quality with a highly responsive experience.
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Te problem is not so much the lack of mini LED but the super slow refresh rate of 60 Hz.
Yea, as always Apple is lagging behind in technology.
I would love a 27 inch monitor with 5K, 144 Hz, true 10 bit color, and 4-side bezel-less
Perhaps ironically, the Studio Display is what many have been asking for since the iMac 5K was launched in 2014.
So one could argue that it was product that should have been rushed to market years ago.
And this one as well:
GP27-FUS - Cooler Master Summit
Whether it's for working, gaming or content creation, it'll deliver superior image quality with a highly responsive experience.
summit.coolermaster.com
Unfortunately After Effects (the software I use for work) doesn't play well with non-native scaling, therefore I'm forced to get a 5K panel.
That said I canceled my order for the studio display as it costs so much for what it can deliver (and it's much more expensive here than the US).
I'd rather spend 2.5k for a mini-led pro-motion option.
However waiting for 2023...
Jesus...
A thing I hate is the lack of hdmi on apple displays...
I have an apple TV 4K and I'd love to connect it to the display to watch prime video, apple tv, disney + and netflix in HDR.
That said I canceled my order for the studio display as it costs so much for what it can deliver (and it's much more expensive here than the US).
I'd rather spend 2.5k for a mini-led pro-motion option.
However waiting for 2023...
Jesus...
A thing I hate is the lack of hdmi on apple displays...
I have an apple TV 4K and I'd love to connect it to the display to watch prime video, apple tv, disney + and netflix in HDR.
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Yeah, I'm waiting to see more details on the Cooler Master GP27-FUS, but its on my short list, its one I was thinking of when I said monitors coming with more zones than M9. Spec-wise it looks a lot better with its 576 zones vs M9's 96 zones, but will see once reviewers get their hands on it. More zones doesn't always translate to better performance -- the implementation matters. There are also things like too high minimum brightness that could be a deal breaker for me, which we don't know yet.And this one as well:
GP27-FUS - Cooler Master Summit
Whether it's for working, gaming or content creation, it'll deliver superior image quality with a highly responsive experience.
Samsung Neo G7 & G8 also look good and are here now, but I don't want a curved VA panel.
mini-LED would be the main reason I would get, promotion is not enough of a selling point.
It's a bummer that we won't see 32inch for regular people.
What's really crazy is the fact that you can't find a 32inch monitor in the market with more than 140PPI except Apple XDR pro display hitting 200+
It's a bummer that we won't see 32inch for regular people.
What's really crazy is the fact that you can't find a 32inch monitor in the market with more than 140PPI except Apple XDR pro display hitting 200+
Ive been waiting for over a month, so definitely not! That being said I may sell if the new display comes out and it's substantially better.
If you have a PS5, 100% go for Sony one, you won't be able to play PS5 on 4k on studio display, it will only display as 1080P , you also won't be able to do any HDR on studio display.I'm considering getting the new Sony InZone M9 Montior for my 2021 MacBook Pro external display for photo and video editing and I do have a PS5.
Wondering how much better this rumored display would be and at what cost difference as the M9 is around $899
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Whether this is a standalone or a larger iMac, this might be the thing that finally convinces me to get a new Mac desktop. I love the MBP's mini-LED HDR ProMotion display and it's hard to go back to a standard non-HDR LCD display once you've used the superior one.
Only different is HDR 400 vs HDR 600Again, check out HP OMEN 27u. Surprisingly not many know this new monitor
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but $200 cheaper
Gonna check some review to compare the screen image