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will it be a cell phone?

IF Apple releases an iPhone, who says it will be a cell phone? Maybe they will release a VOIP phone along with a service?

If they do release a cell phone, I agree with the earlier poster who said it would be their own MVNO service. Seems like everyone is launching MVNO's. If ESPN can have their own cell phone service, why not Apple?
 
If it's another Motorola, I'm not wasting my money on it. I've had only bad luck with them, and everyone I know who has one has had the same trouble. After awhile, the flip phone's screen starts to randomly turn off and/or flicker and it becomes almost impossible to charge (plug in, wiggle, charge for a second, stops charging, etc). My friend has a brand new Razr and can't even use it due to so many dropped calls. Give me a Nokia any day.
 
mongoos150 said:
Also - CDMA is for losers??? Code Division Multiple Access has *such* a better reputation in reception and usability nationwide...when I was on Cingular I couldn't hold a conversation longer than 20 minutes without having a dropped call, and that's in several different markets (Tucson, LA, Chicago, Indianapolis). GSM has better phone technology (handsets), and yes international capabilities (except for Korea) , but in terms of network reliablilty Verizon pwns Cingular.
I don't think that CDMA offers better reliability. It's probably just Cingular's sub par network infrastructure. Here in Europe we only have GSM, but I have never ever had a dropped call. Ever. My cell's reliability only goes screwy between 11 and 1 PM/AM on the 31st of December when absolutely everybody's trying to call or send sms wishing everybody a happy new year. :D

If Apple intends to sell this iPhone outside of the US it will need to be GSM. If the phone is small and light enough I'd consider it. But if it's bigger and/or heavier than my K750 I won't touch it. No matter how cool it looks or how many great features it has. I don't know what those features could be as my K750 already does everything I want. And as said before, I'm a bit afraid that Apple will oversimplify the phone so we'll end up with less features at a premium Apple price point.
 
Goldfinger said:
I don't think that CDMA offers better reliability. It's probably just Cingular's sub par network infrastructure. Here in Europe we only have GSM, but I have never ever had a dropped call. Ever.
There is a big advantage in Europe in general for GSM, you have the population density that makes lots and lots of cells a profitable venture. To duplicate that over here, the costs outside the heavily settled pockets would skyrocket.
 
freeny said:
Besides the little Apple logo, why would this phone be any better then any other phone?

Just curious....


You could store it in its own £69 leather carry case, for one :p
 
I can almost guarantee Apple is coming out with a cell phone soon.Here's why I believe this..

My local ABC station has been advertising their newscast.Keep in mind Disney owns ABC..

Anyway...

They say :
Watch the news on our website,or on your iPod ( they show an iPod with the newscast on it ) then...They say "and coming soon to your cell phone"..

This makes me think the station is waiting for the "cell phone"..

This ad started about 2 weeks ago..
 
i really hope one comes out soon because my sister put my phone (se k700i) in the microwave for a science project (i was in bed not realising she had it) and my replcement is an old nokia brick with my sim card duc taped into place because its too small ( the phone takes a credit card sized simcard) , money is no problem cause my sister is paying :) so hope its soon cause i need one urgently
 
gadgetfreak2 said:
IF Apple releases an iPhone, who says it will be a cell phone? Maybe they will release a VOIP phone along with a service?

If they do release a cell phone, I agree with the earlier poster who said it would be their own MVNO service. Seems like everyone is launching MVNO's. If ESPN can have their own cell phone service, why not Apple?

You could be right!
The fourth point! We didn't forget this thread, did we?
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1458

& this, point number 15.
http://looprumors.com/Pages/leopardinfo0321006.html
 
webcookie said:
If it's another Motorola, I'm not wasting my money on it. I've had only bad luck with them, and everyone I know who has one has had the same trouble. After awhile, the flip phone's screen starts to randomly turn off and/or flicker and it becomes almost impossible to charge (plug in, wiggle, charge for a second, stops charging, etc). My friend has a brand new Razr and can't even use it due to so many dropped calls. Give me a Nokia any day.
I've said exactly that on an older thread, and agree competely. I like Nokia's because of their more responsive and user friendly interface. Apple could do the same if they wanted.
 
iMeowbot said:
There is a big advantage in Europe in general for GSM, you have the population density that makes lots and lots of cells a profitable venture. To duplicate that over here, the costs outside the heavily settled pockets would skyrocket.
I had Sprint PCS (IS95 - that is, "CDMA") for two years when I first came to the US, and then switched to Cingular TDMA, then AT&T GSM, then T-Mobile GSM, then AT&T GSM, then T-Mobile GSM again...

In all that time, Sprint PCS's network was the one I had the most dropped calls. I rarely get them with T-Mobile or AT&T, and when I do, with one exception (a particular cell handover about 30 miles south of here - there's some kind of software issue I believe) it's to do with going out of coverage, not because of a cell handover.

Honestly, the notion that IS95 is more reliable than GSM when it comes to dropped calls is a myth. It should be, but it isn't in practice. The supposed reliability of IS95 comes from "soft handoffs", where both towers listen to a handset as it hands over from one "cell" to the other. In practice, the fact most IS95 operators seem to want to oversubscribe their capacity, and the fact the handset has to get a clear signal to listen to and, 99% of the time, is the party most affected by a cell hand-off, means the cons roughly equal the pros.

For the most part, signal strength remains the major issue when it comes to dropped calls. (With IS-95, it's even more of an issue, as during periods of high demand, handsets with the best reception will have an advantage over those that don't.) Neither GSM nor IS-95 can do anything about that.
 
Chalk me as one who would buy an Apple cellphone... Whats the worst that could happen?
 
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