Apple Modifies Boot ROM on Revised iPhone 3GS Models to Hinder Jailbreaking

[rlreif]

Anything which stops/hinders app piracy is ok in my book.

no dude....
think

thats not what this is about....

after my 2 year contract is up, I should be allowed to sell my device... it is MINE after all... as it is the only way to do that is to jailbreak

 

[bruinsrme]

How far will Apple push before a competing OS makes its way onto the iphone?

So far, the Dev-team has gone to great lengths in their jailbreak routines to not tread on apples copyrighted works in the process.

Apple should expect that forcing the issue will only backfire on them, as it is the inherent nature of forward-thinking people to work toward freedom and independence. ...doubly so when they feel they're being oppressed.

We have 4 jailbroken devices, 3 iphones and 1 touch.
Next year there will be a decision made, ATT or verizon. The deterining factor, the device we will be holding up to our ears.
My son has already mentioned things about the G2 he likes.

We have a year and a lot can change.

 

[rich2000]

Just because someone's pirated an app doesn't necessarily mean that the developer has lost a sale. If it wasn't pirated the person might not have bought it anyway.

And I'm sure most people consider things they can't do/have no knowledge of to be hard.

Don't see it as purely sales-based: think of the value it adds to your resume and how you can use apps to promote yourself and your skills. A get rich quick scheme it's not.

Except the pinch media stats basically say that next to no one with a pirated version actually buys the full version

 

[samcraig]

no dude....
think

thats not what this is about....

after my 2 year contract is up, I should be allowed to sell my device... it is MINE after all... as it is the only way to do that is to jailbreak

Apple isnt preventing you from selling your device. The market dictates what is an acceptable value for your phone.

You can sell your device for any price someone is willing to pay. Jailbreaking might make the value more or make your audience wider - but I repeat APPLE IS NOT PREVENTING YOU FROM SELLING YOUR DEVICE.

So to say the only way to sell is to jailbreak is false. You just don't like the price at which you'd have to sell it at. That's your "problem"

 

[peterdevries]

no dude....
think

thats not what this is about....

after my 2 year contract is up, I should be allowed to sell my device... it is MINE after all... as it is the only way to do that is to jailbreak

In The Netherlands, after two years it can be unlocked and you are free to use it with whatever sim you have lying around.

 

[bruinsrme]

im sure 98% of the hackers and jailbreakers their intention is not profit.
but the other 2% they could create the trojan apps, and virus apps.

if apple allow any software run in the iphone , imagine 20 millions iphones ,everyone is not a expert to see whats a fake app or not , what safe and is not.

OMG I never looked at it that way. So apple is trying to protect me. ahhhh
And yet I walk around without wearing a helment.

Please the arguments are horrible.

Ban the jailbreakers but pirated music is ok to run on itunes and apple devices. its not ok but.......

 

[hanpa]

This is an excellent long-term solution

If the number of jailbreaked devices is reduced, the pressure on Apple to remove the most common reasons for jailbreaking is increased.

- Running at least third-party music apps like Spotify in the background
- 3G cellular restrictions not technically motivated but due to the non-existing agreement between Apple and AT&T
...

 

[rlreif]

I'm good with them cracking down too. Many of the people with jailbroken phones are also using unpaid for apps, like a gps app that I paid $70-.

many people with cars drive around drunk, so I am ok with banning cars too!

 

[1283956]

I love jailbreaking (customization) but hate anyone who pirates apps. jeesh, it's $3 for christ sake!

if i had bought every app thats been on my touch, i would have at lost at least 500 dollars. most of the apps i've downloaded would in the 10 dollar range, i use them for a few hours, at most a few days and then delete them. If apple has some preview of the apps, then pirating might be wrong, but why pay when you can get the exact same app for no risk?

most of the apps are over priced and waste of money. How many apps (besides games) do you use more than a few times?
same goes for software on computers.

 

[samcraig]

many people with cars drive around drunk, so I am ok with banning cars too!

sarcasm noted here.. but not the same thing

you aren't banning an iphone or the use of the iphone.

by your account - instead of banning cars - make it so to start the car - everyone has to use a breathalizer.

That's more of an argument.

 

[1283956]

I dont know please tell us how many?

lol?, before you tell others to not jailbreak thier devises at least use GOOGLE to find out what jailbreaking is.

the apple page is just trying to scare people alway from jailbreak, and jailbreaking does not brick devices. (its not possible from jailbreaking, and even if it were bricked, you can just dfu)

 

[ssspinball]

if apple allow any software run in the iphone , imagine 20 millions iphones ,everyone is not a expert to see whats a fake app or not , what safe and is not.

What do you think Mac OSX does? Oh yeah, it allows you to run ANYTHING YOU WANT!

If you aren't an expert and don't want to take the risk, then don't freakin' jailbreak and stick with the app store. Problem solved!

 

[Unspoken Demise]

lol?, before you tell others to not jailbreak thier devises at least use GOOGLE to find out what jailbreaking is.

the apple page is just trying to scare people alway from jailbreak, and jailbreaking does not brick devices. (its not possible from jailbreaking, and even if it were bricked, you can just dfu)

He's being sarcastic with his sig. bruinsrme has a JB phone.

 

[couto27]

OMG I never looked at it that way. So apple is trying to protect me. ahhhh
And yet I walk around without wearing a helment.

Please the arguments are horrible.

Ban the jailbreakers but pirated music is ok to run on itunes and apple devices. its not ok but.......

fell free to sell your iphone, dont you read or know what you are buying ? or you are the ones afected by the social environment, "i have to had a iphone because everyone has"

you can buy an android im sure they will give you jailbreaking

 

[couto27]

if i had bought every app thats been on my touch, i would have at lost at least 500 dollars. most of the apps i've downloaded would in the 10 dollar range, i use them for a few hours, at most a few days and then delete them. If apple has some preview of the apps, then pirating might be wrong, but why pay when you can get the exact same app for no risk?

most of the apps are over priced and waste of money. How many apps (besides games) do you use more than a few times?
same goes for software on computers.

they have , it calls lite

 

[nagromme]

Jailbreaking is really cool, and the hobbyist in me is really into it. I hacked my old clickwheel iPod to give it a custom red interface. Long live OS hacking!

However, I depend on my iPhone too much to mess with nonstandard stuff, so the hobbyist in me will have to find other outlets.

And since I hope one day to finish my game and sell it for iPhone, I can't help being pleased about anything that makes casual app piracy harder. (Not to mention, jailbreaking can burn up RAM and make apps crash--and then the devs get blamed and the bad reviews begin.)

But I hope that jailbreak-able phones stay on the market, at least used ones, to keep those fun hacks alive! Especially the springboard skinning stuff.

 

[wingsabr]

Can't Apple just allow customization and backgrounding capibilites?

Its a shame but at least my iPhone went up in value overnight! I guess I'm staying at 3.1.2 so not to forever lose my jailbreak.

I wouldn't JB my phone if:

1. I could tether for free
2. Background apps
3. I could have adblock for Safari

The other stuf is fun, but it's not THAT necessary.

 

[bruinsrme]

lol?, before you tell others to not jailbreak thier devises at least use GOOGLE to find out what jailbreaking is.

the apple page is just trying to scare people alway from jailbreak, and jailbreaking does not brick devices. (its not possible from jailbreaking, and even if it were bricked, you can just dfu)

power, home, plug device in wait for device to be recognized by the itunes and usb cable. fixed.

 

[couto27]

lol?, before you tell others to not jailbreak thier devises at least use GOOGLE to find out what jailbreaking is.

the apple page is just trying to scare people alway from jailbreak, and jailbreaking does not brick devices. (its not possible from jailbreaking, and even if it were bricked, you can just dfu)

dfu???? ohh that thing is made 50 times and ruin all iphones button

so after you press the iphone button millions of times for dfu use ,you go to the apple store complain how the iphone button is a crap !!!!

 

[Rodimus Prime]

And this BS crap apple is pulling is the exact reason why Android will pass them up in market share.

The iPhone lack of customization is it going to be its downfall. Everyone one else is catching up in interface so that will be a level field. The other apps stores are taking off and will get to the point of having the same number of useful apps. Lets face it saying there are 1000 GOOD apps in the app store is being VERY generous the rest are crap.

This is just one more thing in a growing list of reason of why the iPhone will in the end fall apart.

 

[rlreif]

Apple isnt preventing you from selling your device. The market dictates what is an acceptable value for your phone.

You can sell your device for any price someone is willing to pay. Jailbreaking might make the value more or make your audience wider - but I repeat APPLE IS NOT PREVENTING YOU FROM SELLING YOUR DEVICE.

So to say the only way to sell is to jailbreak is false. You just don't like the price at which you'd have to sell it at. That's your "problem"

NO!

how can you sell a device that is locked to your sim?
iphones arent just locked to ATT (inthe US) they are locked to YOUR sim...
reread my original post

 

[Winni]

I'm OK with Apple cracking down on pirates and fixing exploits. ...
However, I hope Apple realizes that there are good reasons why people are jailbreaking, and listens to its customers for feedback, so we can have an "authorized" way to customize our iPhones and legitimate stuff like that.

You're just not getting it. Apple will NEVER give up the control over their precious cash cow. Opening the iPhone would:

a) Allow people to use it with a carrier with whom Apple does not have one of those we-get-a-percentage-of-each-phone-call-made-with-an-iPhone contracts.

b) Allow people to install software that does NOT come from the App Store where Apple gets 30% of each purchase.

Giving the users the freedom to use the platform they paid for in any way the users want to use it would directly cut into Apple's stream of revenue. So it's just not going to happen.

Before Apple opens the iPhone, we will rather see the iPhone OS being installed on every Mac so that Apple will have the same iron grip on Macs that it currently holds on iPhones and iPods.

Steve Jobs has always hated open platforms and open systems. When he started NeXT, they only chose BSD as their foundation because it was already there, didn't cost them anything AND had a license that allowed them to turn it into a proprietary, closed platform - which has now evolved into Mac OS X and the even more restricted iPhone OS.

 

[BigHonkingDeal]

Same here... except I need also Skype & Slingplayer over 3G

If the next iPhone does not allow this I will move on after 3 years of putting up with restrictions....

This http://826.com/htc_HD.jpg is starting to look better every day

I wouldn't JB my phone if:

1. I could tether for free
2. Background apps
3. I could have adblock for Safari

The other stuf is fun, but it's not THAT necessary.

 

[whatever]

If they finally do block it for good, ill move to verizon because AT&T is flat out horrible. Storm 2 doesnt look all that bad.

I wonder if the carriers are playing a similar games as gym memberships. Where a gym owner gambles that a gym member will not be a dedicated member and will either only go fewer than three days a week or will stop going period. Allowing them to sell more memberships, because the gym is not crowded/busy.

In the carrier world, anyone who ditches the iPhone in the middle of their contract are stuck paying out their contract. So the carrier still includes that customer in their numbers and they have one fewer customer hogging up their network.

 

[bruinsrme]

fell free to sell your iphone, dont you read or know what you are buying ? or you are the ones afected by the social environment, "i have to had a iphone because everyone has"

you can buy an android im sure they will give you jailbreaking

reading and experiencing first hand are two different things.
Jailbreaking resulted in 2 additional iphones added to my account a year into my 2 year contract. Jailbreaking was the answer to many of my dislikings that developed after months of use.
And as with everything else I buy I did research it thoroughly with is why I opted to not get the 2G and wait for the 3G to be released and still waited 4 months after its release. The iphone was the only decent game in town but others are moving in.
What I didn't know and have learned since was the tight leash apple has on the phone. I am sure I did read about a thing or two regarding that subject but wasn't able to appreciate the level of control apple has until the real life experieince.

Jailbreaking has added funtionality to the device that I have adapted into my daily routine.
The walls in our house were all white. We chose to add a little color to our house so we painted the walls several different colors. Same with the iphone and jailbreaking, jailbreaking adds a little color to the devices.
We all chose not to live with the white walled iphones. Going back to the white walls is always an option. If another platform offers us black white and a red with the ability to paint the walls well to us it deserves a look.

We pay a fair amount for the phones and service. I want to enjoy the device as much as possible. jailbreaking provides that and more.