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Apple Moving MacBook and Apple Watch Production to Vietnam for the First Time
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Anything that moves production out of China is a good move. Obviously like most sane people I would prefer if these manufacturing capabilities could be built up in the West again but I understand that that's not something most companies are willing to try. But just ensuring that China no longer has the monopoly on facilities, skills and so on will help protect us in the future - especially since a Russia-like situation could just as easily happen with China and then we'd be in a pretty desperate position.
Not true, you love special fried rice, Chinese actors and kung fu just like all of us.
Be specific don’t be broad and discriminate.
It's still a Chinese company, just operating in Vietnam. Beyond the geography it doesn't chance much. Should China tell Luxshare to shut it down, it gets shut down.
The corporations who produce these goods and their investors make this determination. It's an inescapable economic reality, no matter how unpleasant and unpopular it may be.
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If anyone has an in-depth article / video on why manufacturing isn’t coming back to the USA (and the west), I’d love to know of it.
I’d love to know also how much automation (ie robotics) is playing a part in assembly or if it’s still quite a manual task.
I’d love to know also how much automation (ie robotics) is playing a part in assembly or if it’s still quite a manual task.
Some of these comments disgust me. If you don’t like where it’s made, then don’t buy the product. In fact practice what you preach and discard all your products that have anything made in that said country.
dude, the only reason you got a US economy is because you got other nations producing stuff for you cheaply and then other nations to buy stuff from you expensively
you don't get empire status/world reserve currency status by producing your own stuff
It changes quite a lot. Once Vietnam and other Asian nations are able to achieve critical mass in production the epicenter of worldwide production can move out of China. At that point it doesn't matter what the Chinese government allows or doesn't allow because Vietnam will have attracted lots of other investment.
China can get bent.
I’d crochet Apple Watch bands in my garage if it would help Apple get out of China.
I’d crochet Apple Watch bands in my garage if it would help Apple get out of China.
Even if Apple came to Mexico and Central America, they could drastically change the outlook for those areas and improve those economies right near the USA. They can accomplish cheap and get rid of the whole problem of gang warfare by providing real jobs in those regions. It would also help US stop illegal immigration and asylum seekers who just have no hope in their Central American homeland.
Apple says they’re pro the environment and pro rights and all that but they just keep shipping jobs and manufacturing to the worst place in the world as far as enslaving workers and child labor. Yes, I think Apple tries to combat it, but I believe Timmy looks the other way every time he visits. It’s hard not to see the atrocities happening to the people by companies and their government coercing and building the country off its people’s backs not caring about the individual.
Apple says they’re pro the environment and pro rights and all that but they just keep shipping jobs and manufacturing to the worst place in the world as far as enslaving workers and child labor. Yes, I think Apple tries to combat it, but I believe Timmy looks the other way every time he visits. It’s hard not to see the atrocities happening to the people by companies and their government coercing and building the country off its people’s backs not caring about the individual.
I’d like to see manufacturing back in the UK, lots of Apple users here. Plus we have a government determined to push down wages so it should become more economically viable over time.
People will stop buying them and look for cheaper alternatives. Add a 4 - 5 hundred dollars to iPhone prices and I suspect Androids market share would go way up at teh expense of Apple.
You want the government dictating prices? That happens a while back, and didn't work out well.
A lot of people like the idea, but balk at the prices. How many people buy, instead of cheaper non-US made products:
Snap-On tools?
DeWalt Power Tools?
All Clad cookware?
Gibson Guitars?
Once the cost of labor relative to teh total cost gets low enough, manufacturing can move back. I suspect the moves to SOCs will help that as the component count is low enough that little manual labor will be needed, instead tehre will be a lot of automation, a few techs, and some manual assembly.
Having an entire iPhone on one chip with connections to battery, antenna and screen will greatly simplify assembly.
They don't easily fit in a small space, since it requires looking at things like cost of living, taxes, labor laws, etc. It's not simply "they get paid less."
The dollar is at parity with the Euro, hardly what I call suffering.
As long as labor costs are at a certain percentage of total costs, yes.
That only works if the general population allows it to work… Wall Street will try and dictate to you when and where you use the toilet if you allow it…
Denial is getting hard to get over for some - but things are changing and Wall Street parasites and predators are no longer able to do the dictating that they thought they could… corporations are finding out that hard lesson more and more every day and there is not a damn thing they can do about it… they’ve tried all the old tired excuses and its no longer working for their manipulation tactics…. Even Apple is losing that battle and people are telling them to go screw themselves in many areas of the “CORPORATE CULTURE OF FEAR” -
So you telling me this is inescapable economic reality? That tells me you, yourself are ignoring reality and the things going on around you… the corporate monolith and Wall Street vampire squids really messed up over the last couple years… its time for those who don’t recognize this to wake up, or just be part of the corporate cannibalization thats already starting…. 2007/08 hasn’t been forgotten about yet… and that has some people quaking in their boots…
HomePods are already made in Vietnam (since the October colored variants)
Apple is in the process of relocating Apple Watch and Mac production to the Southeast Asian country of Vietnam as part of a broader push to diversify its supply chain, Nikkei Asia reports.
The report says that Apple's supplier Luxshare has begun trial production of Apple Watch and MacBook models in Vietnam. Vietnam is already the home for production of several Apple productions, including certain iPad and AirPods models.
Alongside Apple Watch and MacBook production possibly moving to Vietnam, the report says that Apple is also mulling potentially moving HomePod production to the country. The report noted that Apple's trial production of MacBooks in Vietnam is progressing slowly due to pandemic relation disruptions.
Article Link: Apple Moving MacBook and Apple Watch Production to Vietnam for the First Time
Consumers and imveators speak with their dollars and the message they've delivered so far doesn't match your assessment.
How are you going to route all the profit to Ireland if you manufacture in the US?
The strong dollar right now is a suffering dollar? The US dollar is as strong as it's been in a long time. It's so strong it's causing some issues for multinational companies and other countries but not the United States.
Good. The less reliance on China the better and I don't mean just Apple.
So the reason why these are not made in us and a.. is a pure political move?
What about the raw materials, third party suppliers , chip production , do you think they will come back and fourth from China , Taiwan ?geo-location costs?
smoke people but please bring something reasonable
Where did I say that the Chinese people were better at manufacturing? I just made a point to your narrative of making manufacturing in the US because it's the US - Not much arguments other than national pride there...
There are more experts in their field in China, because they invested in becoming experts in manufacturing since decades. You got the ambition of US being competitive in manufacturing? Good! This will take years as well.
But for now, if any company would like to manufacture something, you have abundance of people and resources in China than any other nation. Access to problem solving, expertise and capabilities that took years to build. Simple as that.
Good Morning Vietnam!
I don't think we even have enough technical skilled workers to bring back mfg. to the US at this point...A mix of some in the US and some abroad is fine.
I don't think we even have enough technical skilled workers to bring back mfg. to the US at this point...A mix of some in the US and some abroad is fine.