Apple Moving MacBook and Apple Watch Production to Vietnam for the First Time

[ian87w]

Finally! Time to move most production out of China, stop funding their military

Foxconn, Pegatron, and Quanta (the major manufacturers) are Taiwanese companies.

 

[Steve121178]

I would prefer to read “Apple moving Production to USA and EU” and don’t see this as good news.

Never going to happen. Ever tried to get anything done in France for example and their strict 35 hour working week? Apple likes Asian countries as they get stuff done at a much cheaper price. The labour laws in Asia are shall we say, err, not as strictly enforced as they are elsewhere in the world... Which means they don't need to hire as many people. In the EU & USA they'd be a vastly larger workforce at vastly higher salaries legally required to do the same job.

 

[koruki]

And ultimately a loss for the USA. We need to bring manufacturing back stateside. The "but the devices will cost 100x more" excuse has long term consequences for US sovereignty and economic stability. Additionally that point is addressable via legislation. China are strong because of their manufacturing ability which is rapidly growing. Meanwhile the US's manufacturing ability is crumbling.

I want my Apple devices "Designed in California and Made in USA."

thats nice, did you guy the USA made Mac Pro to show your support?

 

[_Spinn_]

This is a great move!

 

[svish]

Good to see production expanding outside China. Vietnam and India could be making a lot of Apple devices in the future.

 

[benji4benji]

Apple is in the process of relocating Apple Watch and Mac production to the Southeast Asian country of Vietnam as part of a broader push to diversify its supply chain, Nikkei Asia reports.

The report says that Apple's supplier Luxshare has begun trial production of Apple Watch and MacBook models in Vietnam. Vietnam is already the home for production of several Apple productions, including certain iPad and AirPods models.

Alongside Apple Watch and MacBook production possibly moving to Vietnam, the report says that Apple is also mulling potentially moving HomePod production to the country. The report noted that Apple's trial production of MacBooks in Vietnam is progressing slowly due to pandemic-related disruptions.

Article Link: Apple Moving MacBook and Apple Watch Production to Vietnam for the First Time

Finally production in other countries too. Apple was too focused on china. I now await my not in china made iPhone and MBPros

 

[Wildkraut]

Never going to happen. Ever tried to get anything done in France for example and their strict 35 hour working week? Apple likes Asian countries as they get stuff done at a much cheaper price. The labour laws in Asia are shall we say, err, not as strictly enforced as they are elsewhere in the world... Which means they don't need to hire as many people. In the EU & USA they'd be a vastly larger workforce at vastly higher salaries legally required to do the same job.

Apple would have to give up a very small piece of the cake to make this happen, nothing that would hurt their business in any form, but this just shows us the fake American patriotism they keep preaching in their stand-up comedy shows.

USA should demand high license fees from Apple for using names of American places and Mountains for their OS.

We need better and modern laws to force companies that produces stuff abroad to pay more tax and stop companies like Apple from leeching the economy.

Well, at least Intel has a higher morality than Apple.

Intel's $20 bln Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

Intel Corp said on Friday it would invest up to $100 billion to build potentially the world's largest chip-making complex in Ohio, looking to boost capacity as a global shortage of semiconductors affects everything from smartphones to cars.

www.reuters.com

Intel Announces $88 Billion Megafab to Keep Chipmaking in Europe

Magdeburg, Germany, houses a major new manufacturing site. Intel also is investing in new facilities in France, Ireland, Poland, Italy and Spain.

www.cnet.com

 

[TheRealAlex]

iPhone made up 49.01% of Apple’s net sales in the quarter ending on June 25, 2022. So everything else combined equaled 50.99% of Apple’s net sales.

You can verify what I just wrote by going to Apple’s “condensed consolidated statement of operations“ and looking towards the bottom of page one.

I will note that the net sales number includes services. If you want to exclude services and only include hardware, then iPhone made up 64.185% of hardware net sales and everything else made up 35.815% of hardware net sales.

Ok exclude anything that lacks A CPU

 

[WWPD]

How would South America as a manufacturing center help with the US border situation? You mean, El Salvadorans would choose to migrate to Brazil, or what?

Because most come across the border because they are looking for jobs and a better life, if you can provide that they won't need to come over.

 

[SBlue1]

And ultimately a loss for the USA. We need to bring manufacturing back stateside. The "but the devices will cost 100x more" excuse has long term consequences for US sovereignty and economic stability. Additionally that point is addressable via legislation. China are strong because of their manufacturing ability which is rapidly growing. Meanwhile the US's manufacturing ability is crumbling.

I want my Apple devices "Designed in California and Made in USA."

Yeah great but would you buy an iPhone made in USA if its $200 more? Be honest, do you buy other Chinese made goods? Is your rocking chair a $30 model from Walmart made in China? Why didn't you buy the locally made $250 model? And most Americans say bring back manufacturing to the US but then they all vote with the wallet and support China instead.

 

[steve333]

Foxconn, Pegatron, and Quanta (the major manufacturers) are Taiwanese companies.

That's fine, Taiwan isn't China and the jobs are going to Vietnam

 

[Anaxarxes]

This is absolute rubbish. You can train just about anyone to do just about anything you want or need them to do. You can even build robots to take their jobs. This is a power and revenue thing.

Tim's #1 product is his shareholder price. Keep that high, keep the money flowing, and that's all that matters.

I don't knwo what you're talking about, but seems to me that you mistakenly assume that I'm talking about people in the assembly line?

I'm referring to people who are designing the manufacturing lines, methods and coming with solutions on the best ways to bring a design to reality? Thousands of extremely specialised people on a tiny substrata of manufacturing & tooling.

Yep, you do not have even 1% of that population of these experrs anywhere else in the world.

 

[SBlue1]

Plus its not just the huge amount of people willing and capable of doing those jobs. Its the whole logistics. A German manufacturer of power tools explained why he moved the production to China despite having trained and skilled experts available to do the jobs here. Its that if you want to change the design and need two millions of special screws you would need to search whole Germany to find a company that would provide you with them. In China, in those production areas, you will get two million of those screws just 20 minutes down the highway and they would deliver them in one day. You need a new paint for the tools? There is a giant paint plant just across the street. You need someone to pack and ship your tools you just produced? There is someone who will do it the same day. It's unbelievable how packed and compact those production cities are, you can produce everything you want whenever you want however you want. That's unparalleled anywhere in the world, as sad as it is.

 

[arian71]

Plus its not just the huge amount of people willing and capable of doing those jobs. Its the whole logistics. A German manufacturer of power tools explained why he moved the production to China despite having trained and skilled experts available to do the jobs here. Its that if you want to change the design and need two millions of special screws you would need to search whole Germany to find a company that would provide you with them. In China, in those production areas, you will get two million of those screws just 20 minutes down the highway and they would deliver them in one day. You need a new paint for the tools? There is a giant paint plant just across the street. You need someone to pack and ship your tools you just produced? There is someone who will do it the same day. It's unbelievable how packed and compact those production cities are, you can produce everything you want whenever you want however you want. That's unparalleled anywhere in the world, as sad as it is.

and the most important thing the geo-location of China , their own home market , most iphones sold there for example