There's nothing "not ideal" about Windows ... It's a fine OS, period.
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Apple Music Android App Can Now Be Used in Windows 11
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There's nothing "not ideal" about Windows ... It's a fine OS, period.
swm
macrumors 6502a
to me, who is required to use w10 on daily basis is still a confusing mess. i've been a windows user since the early 90s til 2006, when i finally switched to macOS. due to some work/company related tasks i still need to use it, but it doesn't feel right. you are in no control of many things, and essentially it is hacked to pieces by the hw vendors' crappy software/drivers that essentially pollutes all brand name devices. but even if we put the dirty internals aside, the sound subsystem is a mess, audio routing confuses half of the users, there is no consistent flow in control/settings, after a few clicks you feel you've entered a time portal that leads back to XP times.
i agree it came a long way, and many things seem nice on the outside, but it's not macOS. nowhere near. the screen real estate is wasted for useless graphical elements, the average user will only use up to 40% screen area for actual work - all other is polluted by toolbars, tabs, buttons, docks. there is like 0 care spent on figuring out the optimal workflow, despite the ultra-wide screen aspect ratios on modern laptops the entire setup is centering around bottom and top bars limiting the work area severely.
it's not just windows, it's there throughout their entire application range. even in software written for macOS.
on windows if you type, the character is instantly displayed, and for some stupid reason the vertical cursor is sliding across the already visible character. why? why? most of the things on the visual side is half-baked and it would actually be better and more pleasing to the eye if they would have kept it as it was.
You cannot setup without MS account but it can be local after the setup. Still not friendly. I have 11 installed and so far the only thing that bothers me is the default centering of the taskbar. Made it left right away.
ArtOfWarfare
macrumors G3
Both OSs tell you they want to update and offer a button to defer it or do it now, and they also tell you it'll automatically happen at some point.
On an Apple OS, that's an empty threat - I've virtually never had an automatic update occur, and instead the device tells me about how it couldn't update because something was running which prevented it. It's kind of obnoxious, really, because it means I have to go and manually update my Apple devices at some point.
On Windows, it doesn't care what's running. The update is going to happen. I suppose where trouble can occur is if you're using a full screen app that blocks notifications (like a game). IDK. I haven't had an issue with Windows automatic updates.
Windows 8.1 was a solid upgrade compared to 7.
The Settings situation in Windows 10 is an improvement to what was there before, and my understanding is that Windows 11 is better still. It's not as good as macOS, but how often are we going through the settings in any OS anyways?
It is pathetic that there are no native apps for Windows. I have iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch and MacBook so am in their ecosystem but I’m forced to use crappy slow iTunes or a browser app for Music, and can’t run TV app on my main PC. Being punished despite having bought all their products, except a desktop Mac, which quite simply can’t do what I need for work
This is what we were promised with iOS apps on the M1. ruined by apple and the laziness/greed of lots of devs.
sideshowuniqueuser
macrumors 68040
Just curious, are you using Win 11? I'm really curious if it is better or worse? Also, are you a macOS user too? If so, how do you find using Win 10/11 in comparison?
sideshowuniqueuser
macrumors 68040
Yep, until Windows can run on VMWare or similar on M1, macOS on AS is a major impediment to many many users. As a software dev, I sometimes develop in C#, and also sometimes develop to the Sql Server database, and need to run Windows on a VM to do this work. I don't currently have such work, but could again anytime in the future.... I really really hope this gets sorted out soon.
lucaspttrsn
macrumors newbie
I feel quite the opposite, Windows has never been more consumer friendly, Windows 11 is a huge step and a great OS.
Sure it has its faults, but no OS is perfect.
I use Mac, Lin and Win, they all have their ups and downs, if you take the fan glasses off, you can notice great stuff on the horizon 😉
I don't buy on reviewers, I mean for Justine and such everything is awesome when it has an Apple slapped on, they don't care about quality or a fair review, they just say what they are paid for.
Reviewers are never fair.
Fo me Win 11 is a fair 8 out of 10 and it will improve upon so...
I've used it, but I'm still hanging on to Win 10.
I also use macOS and Linux, I prefer POSIX systems for development to be honest, but my preference is just around development and doesn't make Windows a bad OS.
sideshowuniqueuser
macrumors 68040
Thanks for that. Pretty much matches my view. I use macOS at home. Mostly use Windows at work, and it's just fine, especially since I don't have to do any of the sys admin for it, there's a team that does all that. Have used *nix at work on and off over the years, but not enough to be super fluent and fast with it, so it is merely "ok" for me. I think people get super religious about this stuff, and I agree, Windows is fine, and even has a few things that are better than macOS, for example, Finder has some really weird annoying things about it, but in general macOS is much nicer to use. However, macOS seems to be declining.
Uofmtiger
macrumors 68020
The exception being Apple Music, unless they updated it to do bit rate switching on the fly that currently can be done with an iPhone or iPad with the proper DAC. I wonder if the Android running on Windows will handle higher bit rates? The Blue Stacks app seems to send everything our at 48khz.
The same reason why people use IOS for messages. Ecosystem. Their workload is reliant on Windows-based apps and switching takes time and incurs productivity losses. Also, Apple's brand is premium products so before with intel laptops apple was a premium-based company—Apple needs to change public perception of its MacBook product line.
I'm trying to dump macOS in case it turns into a dumpster fire like IOS. I still find myself using macOS from time to time.
I feel as though macOS will eventually be a closed OS where the only way to get new software is through the App Store. I hope I'm wrong.
grandM
macrumors 68000
I hate to break it to you but Spotify is no native app. It is an electron app. It runs in a web browser. 'every Electron app bundles a complete web browser: Chromium, the open source version of Google Chrome. This is bundled along with the platform-specific instructions in order to ensure that everything behaves exactly as developers expect on all systems. That’s why the desktop version of Slack takes up over 200MB of hard drive space: most of Chrome is bundled in there.'
What Are Electron Apps, and Why Have They Become So Common?
Have you noticed a lot of new desktop applications look pretty much like websites? It's not your imagination.
www.howtogeek.com
grandM
macrumors 68000
mi7chy
Suspended
This is false. On initial Windows 11 or 10 setup you can use local account if there's no internet so just unplug RJ45 or don't associate with WIFI.
mi7chy
Suspended
Add:
-Performance
-Choice
Apple doesn't offer the latest and greatest CPUs and GPUs. They limit you to mid tier Intel CPUs and AMD GPUs or incompatibility with M1. With PC you have no ceiling and can choose AMD Ryzen, Threadripper and Epyc or higher end Intel CPUs along with AMD 6900xt, Nvidia 3090 or even higher HPC dGPUs.