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2. I wouldn’t use any car that didn’t have that as an option in 2022. I enjoy the integration, the ui, but the most important reason tbh is it’s my money and I will spend it how I like.
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2. I hope you have a lot of amazing miles in the car of your choice!
 
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Streaming music from your phone is 1000% better with CarPlay than with just plain Bluetooth. I'm way beyond over the native streaming in the Tesla.

And, Tesla's map routing sucks. Nearly any other mapping solution available via CarPlay would be better.

After the recent updates with alternating routes, waypoints and edit of the routes, they have actually fixed the stuff I had as a gripe after switching from a BMW - Love it now
 
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Want to echo what has been said here: do not miss CarPlay in Tesla but wouldn’t dream of using another car without it or android auto. Legacy Autos software is never anything other than clunky, slow and confusing.
 
Nope. Used it, and missed it immensely. I spend a lot of time in my car and it was dealbreaker. Traded for a Macan and haven’t looked back

Well, at least you have good taste. A Macan (EV) or Taycan are the only cars I’d give up my Tesla for, and probably will down the line once the EV is out.
 
It’s a Tesla issue because most cars don’t have batteries and don’t use extra fuel heating the damn car.

Also, Tesla cars are very flimsy and hollow due to the need to be light, which means wind can blow through the cracks.
Weird. I don't find my Tesla to be flimsy (aside from the fact the paint sucks) and I've never felt wind blowing through the cracks. The heat pump in the Model Y is very efficient. Yes, some energy will be spent heating the "damn car" but keep in mind on an ICE vehicle, 70% of the fuel you pay for just gets burned and turned into heat anyhow, and not used to move the vehicle at all.
 
Weird. I don't find my Tesla to be flimsy (aside from the fact the paint sucks) and I've never felt wind blowing through the cracks. The heat pump in the Model Y is very efficient. Yes, some energy will be spent heating the "damn car" but keep in mind on an ICE vehicle, 70% of the fuel you pay for just gets burned and turned into heat anyhow, and not used to move the vehicle at all.

If you use a residential charger, Tesla doesn’t fully charge under 36 hours unless you heat your garage because Tesla needs to heat the battery pack and batteries don’t charge well when it’s cold.

Supercharger is slow also, and it’s super bad for your battery when it’s cold.

You only get 55% of the normal range even when charged to full.

You lose about 2% every hour you have it parked outside. This is because Tesla needs to heat the battery pack to maintain its charge, and to heat the cabin a little bit so things don’t break inside the car.

Tesla has no thermal insulation at all, it’s an open design that maximizes heat transfer. Cars like Mercedes Benz have closed chambers, or tubes, where as Tesla is sheets of metal and empty space.

Also, heat pump doesn’t work in Canada because it doesn’t work much below freezing. We use electric furnace, which is much less efficient. We need all that ambient heat when it’s -32 F out there.
 
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If you use a residential charger, Tesla doesn’t fully charge under 36 hours unless you heat your garage because Tesla needs to heat the battery pack and batteries don’t charge well when it’s cold.

Supercharger is slow also, and it’s super bad for your battery when it’s cold.

You only get 55% of the normal range even when charged to full.

You lose about 2% every hour you have it parked outside. This is because Tesla needs to heat the battery pack to maintain its charge, and to heat the cabin a little bit so things don’t break inside the car.

Tesla has no thermal insulation at all, it’s an open design that maximizes heat transfer. Cars like Mercedes Benz have closed chambers, or tubes, where as Tesla is sheets of metal and empty space.

Also, heat pump doesn’t work in Canada because it doesn’t work much below freezing. We use electric furnace, which is much less efficient. We need all that ambient heat when it’s -32 F out there.
You're completely incorrect on the residential charger. I have the Tesla wall connector in my garage, and I can charge from 0-100 in less than 8 hours. Only 55% normal range even when charged to full? BS. I did 800 miles round trip in a single day in freezing temps last winter, supercharged maybe 30 minutes total. Even in cold weather I get 220-240 miles on a charge at 70mph. At 13k miles I have 4% battery degradation - the first year it's normal to drop to around 5% degradation. But by all means, tell me more, lol.
 
You're completely incorrect on the residential charger. I have the Tesla wall connector in my garage, and I can charge from 0-100 in less than 8 hours. Only 55% normal range even when charged to full? BS. I did 800 miles round trip in a single day in freezing temps last winter, supercharged maybe 30 minutes total. Even in cold weather I get 220-240 miles on a charge at 70mph. At 13k miles I have 4% battery degradation - the first year it's normal to drop to around 5% degradation. But by all means, tell me more, lol.

You used in miles instead of km, so I’m assuming you are in the US? Are you in Alaska?

Canadian winters are not just “freezing temperature,” you know that, right? It’s deep freezer temperature. Batteries can work well down to -5 degrees Celsius, but it’s usually -30 degrees Celsius in the winter. That’s an entirely different game here. Just freezing means 0 degrees Celsius.

Also salt and slush really corrodes the car as it’s not designed to handle that.
 
If you use a residential charger, Tesla doesn’t fully charge under 36 hours unless you heat your garage because Tesla needs to heat the battery pack and batteries don’t charge well when it’s cold.

Supercharger is slow also, and it’s super bad for your battery when it’s cold.

You only get 55% of the normal range even when charged to full.

You lose about 2% every hour you have it parked outside. This is because Tesla needs to heat the battery pack to maintain its charge, and to heat the cabin a little bit so things don’t break inside the car.

Tesla has no thermal insulation at all, it’s an open design that maximizes heat transfer. Cars like Mercedes Benz have closed chambers, or tubes, where as Tesla is sheets of metal and empty space.

Also, heat pump doesn’t work in Canada because it doesn’t work much below freezing. We use electric furnace, which is much less efficient. We need all that ambient heat when it’s -32 F out there.
You just keep making things up. Flimsy cars? Chargers that take 36 hours? Spoken like a person who’s never even driven a Tesla, Much less owned one.
 
I’ve lived Dallas, Miami and Boston with my Model Y and haven’t noticed any significant difference in charging/battery performance due to the temperature…and Boston winters are certainly a lot different than Dallas or Miami.

I don’t think the population centers of southern Canada have significantly colder winters than the northern US, but I can’t speak of what it would be like to own a Tesla in remote northern Canada.
 
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Help me understand why CarPlay is so important to have in your car?

Currently you can make calls and hear/reply to text in a Tesla. Music apps are available for a long time, sure not AM but that’s coming as well now most probably. Build in navigation works fine. I haven’t missed CarPlay for a second when driving my car. I was always annoyed with having to plug in my phone first thing when getting into my car (maybe that’s improved with wireless CarPlay but still you’d want your phone to be charging?)
I have had a Model 3 for about eight months
I had three cars with Carplay before this one
the Tesla interface for music is poor, something like the setup that cars had ten years ago
I don’t think it has to be Carplay, but a better interface would be good
I know I can ask Siri to play stuff, but she seems not to like songs on my phone
 
1. The universe is under no obligation to help you understand it. ;)
2. I wouldn’t use any car that didn’t have that as an option in 2022. I enjoy the integration, the ui, but the most important reason tbh is it’s my money and I will spend it how I like.

There are a lot of things I look for in a car and having apple car play is at the bottom of the list lol. I certainly wouldn't limit my choice in cars based on the UI when there are so many other importan factors in a vehicle. in my opinion its not that mind blowing anyway. But thats why there are choices in life so everyone can make their own.
 
I have had a Model 3 for about eight months
I had three cars with Carplay before this one
the Tesla interface for music is poor, something like the setup that cars had ten years ago
I don’t think it has to be Carplay, but a better interface would be good
I know I can ask Siri to play stuff, but she seems not to like songs on my phone

I’d love to know what kind of cars you all had that had such great infotainment systems. To frame my experience, I traded a 2018 Range Rover for my Tesla and before that a 2015 Porsche and both had absolutely horrendous infotainment systems compared to the Tesla UI. And those are two very premium automakers. I cant even fathom a vehicle from another manufacturer 10 years ago that had anything remotely comparable to what Tesla offers today.

If some of you are not paying for the internet subscription and are relying on a generic gray navigation map with limited info and a Bluetooth connection to your phone…then yes, the infotainment sucks compared to CarPlay…but with the connected subscription it’s unmatched from my experience.
 
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If you use a residential charger, Tesla doesn’t fully charge under 36 hours unless you heat your garage because Tesla needs to heat the battery pack and batteries don’t charge well when it’s cold.

Supercharger is slow also, and it’s super bad for your battery when it’s cold.

You only get 55% of the normal range even when charged to full.

You lose about 2% every hour you have it parked outside. This is because Tesla needs to heat the battery pack to maintain its charge, and to heat the cabin a little bit so things don’t break inside the car.

Tesla has no thermal insulation at all, it’s an open design that maximizes heat transfer. Cars like Mercedes Benz have closed chambers, or tubes, where as Tesla is sheets of metal and empty space.

Also, heat pump doesn’t work in Canada because it doesn’t work much below freezing. We use electric furnace, which is much less efficient. We need all that ambient heat when it’s -32 F out there.

You used in miles instead of km, so I’m assuming you are in the US? Are you in Alaska?

Canadian winters are not just “freezing temperature,” you know that, right? It’s deep freezer temperature. Batteries can work well down to -5 degrees Celsius, but it’s usually -30 degrees Celsius in the winter. That’s an entirely different game here. Just freezing means 0 degrees Celsius.

Also salt and slush really corrodes the car as it’s not designed to handle that.
Yeah, but you guys have pond hockey, so you got that going for ya. :)

 
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Except that the same extreme guidelines requirements are met by most manufacturers...
what do you mean "except"? it still has *extreme guidelines*.

most manufacturers design the car with carplay implementation in mind. expecting carplay to be an easy OTA update on a car that didn't design with carplay in mind is hilarious.
 
Nope. Used it, and missed it immensely. I spend a lot of time in my car and it was dealbreaker. Traded for a Macan and haven’t looked back
Oof. That technology isn’t in the same ballpark, though. Slow, laggy compared to the Tesla. Great car, mind.
 
Selling my Tesla. I was won over by the marketing, but it honestly feels like a flimsy toy compared to previous quality German engineered cars. Since CarPlay, Tesla doesn't even have a software advantage.
 
Adding Apple Music won’t fix Tesla’s problems. I owned a Model S which I recently replaced with an EQS. It actually goes the published range unlike the Teslas. Tesla quality control is abysmal. Mine was recalled 3 times. Tesla has produced a little over 3 million cars and had 3.7 million recalls. Fit and finish on Tesla’s is the worst of any brand. The technology in Tesla cars is rapidly falling behind other EV manufacturers, particularly in battery technology. Tesla does not have the manufacturing ability to compete anymore. Tesla buyer’s beware.
 
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