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Help me understand why CarPlay is so important to have in your car?

Currently you can make calls and hear/reply to text in a Tesla. Music apps are available for a long time, sure not AM but that’s coming as well now most probably. Build in navigation works fine. I haven’t missed CarPlay for a second when driving my car. I was always annoyed with having to plug in my phone first thing when getting into my car (maybe that’s improved with wireless CarPlay but still you’d want your phone to be charging?)

Primarily for Audible, Apple Music, and for Waze/Apple map integration.
 
It’s a Tesla issue because most cars don’t have batteries and don’t use extra fuel heating the damn car.

Also, Tesla cars are very flimsy and hollow due to the need to be light, which means wind can blow through the cracks.
Well most of Norway is pretty damn cold and Tesla is by far the most popular car there. I was in Norway with -22c last new years with no issues at all. Could easily handle colder
 
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Adding Apple Music won’t fix Tesla’s problems. I owned a Model S which I recently replaced with an EQS. It actually goes the published range unlike the Teslas. Tesla quality control is abysmal. Mine was recalled 3 times. Tesla has produced a little over 3 million cars and had 3.7 million recalls. Fit and finish on Tesla’s is the worst of any brand. The technology in Tesla cars is rapidly falling behind other EV manufacturers, particularly in battery technology. Tesla does not have the manufacturing ability to compete anymore. Tesla buyer’s beware.
Hilarious. Tesla's quality control isn't the best, - agreed. But those "recalls" are just software updates for the vast majority, and the technology is FAR ahead of other EV manufacturers, especially in terms of software movement. I actually get the published range in my 2022 Model S Plaid. This is in 35F weather, pre-heated car, on winter tires. Mix of highway and city driving.
 

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Do you have a Tesla? I do - and besides a native Apple Music app, I really don't miss Apple CarPlay at all
This is what most people was waiting for, I remember there was a tweet from Musk who teased something about AirPlay inside of Teslas, but I suppose this will be even better!
 
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HIGH TIME FOR THIS THOUGH! I thought this would NEVER happen! I guess Tesla is finally finally going to work with Apple! Now hope for CarKeys next, so no more BT BS.
 
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I feel like Tesla need to give Elon the boot as he is becoming a liability. He's been absolutely amazing for them and I have no doubt that he is the reason the company (and electric cars in general) have flourished and Tesla simply would not have been able to scale up without him. However, now they have I think he is holding them back by being stubborn by sticking to try to use cameras for everything and massively over hyping FSD capability. There are his inaccurate tweets about FSD timelines/progress and the belief in cameras causing problematic design choices (no HUD in Model3/Y, move away from steering wheel stalks, moving away from radar and parking sensors, refusal to use a cheap rain sensor, unwilling to admit the reasons for phantom breaking) and refusing to add CarPlay.
Tesla will do just fine now without Musk. I mean we have heard this before with Apple and Jobs, and well, look at Apple now.
 
The Tesla will either drive into a police car or explode when you reach Track 03 of your playlist.
Oh come on, this is definitely very blown out of proportion. Many many people have cars from 2013 etc and they seem to be fine and they didn't explode. As for "driving into a police car"...you realize that you can just drive the car like any other car right? There is no requirement to use the "FSD"
 
Does it not have CarPlay? I just googled it and it seems like not, but that can't be true? I would not buy a car without it today, and absolutely not a car with a Tesla price tag.
Elon Musk has a personal problem with it so no it doesn’t and won’t.
 
Well most of Norway is pretty damn cold and Tesla is by far the most popular car there. I was in Norway with -22c last new years with no issues at all. Could easily handle colder

This is because Norway is small, urban and dense with good infrastructure.

Canada is supar large, and most of the country is unmaintained or undermaintained. It's hard to get to an open gas station on road trips, let alone a supercharger.

Trust me, I love Tesla, but it just doesn't work well here even with the special Winter package and extended range version.
 
Does it not have CarPlay? I just googled it and it seems like not, but that can't be true? I would not buy a car without it today, and absolutely not a car with a Tesla price tag.
It seems to have been a strategy by Tesla to not be dependent on Apple as Apple might introduce their own electric car. Probably smart, but it does it does disappoint me too.
 
Does it not have CarPlay? I just googled it and it seems like not, but that can't be true? I would not buy a car without it today, and absolutely not a car with a Tesla price tag.
I can't tell if you are being serious. No, no CarPlay and probably never ever.
 
If you use a residential charger, Tesla doesn’t fully charge under 36 hours unless you heat your garage because Tesla needs to heat the battery pack and batteries don’t charge well when it’s cold.

Supercharger is slow also, and it’s super bad for your battery when it’s cold.

You only get 55% of the normal range even when charged to full.

You lose about 2% every hour you have it parked outside. This is because Tesla needs to heat the battery pack to maintain its charge, and to heat the cabin a little bit so things don’t break inside the car.

Tesla has no thermal insulation at all, it’s an open design that maximizes heat transfer. Cars like Mercedes Benz have closed chambers, or tubes, where as Tesla is sheets of metal and empty space.

Also, heat pump doesn’t work in Canada because it doesn’t work much below freezing. We use electric furnace, which is much less efficient. We need all that ambient heat when it’s -32 F out there.
Wow you managed to get allmost all of that completely wrong 🥳

Residential 11 kW charges will charge the car from 0 to 100% in 5-6 hours.

Supercharging will charge newer Teslas at 1000-800 mph from 0-50%, then drop to 500+ mph over the next 20%. The main issue with supercharging literally is getting back to your car before idle fees incur at 100% charge 😅
Typically, one will charge for 10-15 min every 150 miles.
The only problem with charging cold batteries is the charging speed. Fast charging is always tough on batteries but only possible if they’re hot - which is why Teslas automatically preheat the battery pack on the way to the next SuperCharger.

What’s with that 55% range BS? How do you even come up with such nonsense?
I drive 80% advertised range in winter at 70-80 mph and 150% advertised range in summer at 50 mph. That’s how electric vehicles work because they turn almost 100% of the energy stored into kinetic energy - whereas a fossil fueled car one transforms 1/7 of the energy stored into kinetic energy as the rest is lost to heat before it even reaches the wheels!

Losing 2% while parked? I just now realize you’re a troll 🤦🏽‍♂️
Anyway, sticking to sunk cost fallacy, I’ll keep refuting your claims: I lose 0% in a week of being parked in Scandinavian winter weather. I can elect to turn on Sentry Mode which is an extra surveillance system guarding the car’s exterior by means of AI monitoring 4 of the 8 exterior cameras, and that will consume around 300 W while active in a crowded are.

I’ve never been in a car as insulated as the Model 3; keeping the AC off is literally impossible 9 out of 12 months (and again: I live in Scandinavia).
Preheating from below freezing to toasty takes a couple of minutes and expends less than 1%.

The heat pumps work fine in the winter here but don’t really make that much of a difference; the car has plenty juice to just be using the regular old “hairdryer” style heating with no noticeable adverse effect.


All in all, Teslas have plenty of issues, but the ones you mention are none of them - and thus merely shows you for the troll you are 😉
 
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You used in miles instead of km, so I’m assuming you are in the US? Are you in Alaska?

Canadian winters are not just “freezing temperature,” you know that, right? It’s deep freezer temperature. Batteries can work well down to -5 degrees Celsius, but it’s usually -30 degrees Celsius in the winter. That’s an entirely different game here. Just freezing means 0 degrees Celsius.

Also salt and slush really corrodes the car as it’s not designed to handle that.
Wrong again on all accounts. Northern parts of Scandinavia have weather comparable to northern Canadian weather. Not an issue. And the excellent AWD system of Tesla (all AWD EVs?) make driving in tough conditions a breeze :)

We use salt as much as you do, and that’s not an issue for an aluminum car like the Model S/X or primarily aluminum car like the 3/Y. Most other cars are made from steel, Teslas less so.
 
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I don’t believe Tesla is “anti-Apple” like everyone says they are. The app is very nice, and definitely looks “Apple.” And the car interface also feels “Apple” despite not being CarPlay. Tesla also supports Apple Pay in every corner they can, like for the in-app upgrades etc.

If they were anti-Apple they would pull an Amazon and not even offer phone keys for iPhones (and make you use the card or physical keys at $150 each), and make you type in your card numbers rather than offering Apple Pay.

Also their whole showroom has Macs everywhere for the staff.
 
Wrong again on all accounts. Northern parts of Scandinavia have weather comparable to northern Canadian weather. Not an issue. And the excellent AWD system of Tesla (all AWD EVs?) make driving in tough conditions a breeze :)

We use salt as much as you do, and that’s not an issue for an aluminum car like the Model S/X or primarily aluminum car like the 3/Y. Most other cars are made from steel, Teslas less so.
 
Many of you have never driven a Tesla and it shows. Tesla's built-in navigation is purpose built for EV. Automatic charging stop calculation. PINCH AND ZOOM. Also apps understands the screen size and uses it optimally efficiently. Music apps goes from full screen to tray mode to fully collapsed. As does transitions between vehicle control, HVAC and entertainment. Along with split screen between self-driving computer visualization (so you know it sees the damn car too and won't slam into it, otherwise you should over-ride), navigation to be overlayed on the self-driving split screen vs primary pane (when the primary pane is off to change music or whatever), etc etc etc.

Apple CarPlay doesn't stick a candle to this and is massively inferior. CarPlay is merely a stop gap compromise to bridge all the legacy manufacturers that has horrible software implementations. The only advantage of CarPlay is more apps. But every app that Tesla do already have, Tesla is much more optimized for Tesla environments. It's not even close.

*I drove a Model Y for 2 years and my dad drives a CRV with CarPlay, which I often borrows
 
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I’d love to know what kind of cars you all had that had such great infotainment systems. To frame my experience, I traded a 2018 Range Rover for my Tesla and before that a 2015 Porsche and both had absolutely horrendous infotainment systems compared to the Tesla UI. And those are two very premium automakers. I cant even fathom a vehicle from another manufacturer 10 years ago that had anything remotely comparable to what Tesla offers today.

If some of you are not paying for the internet subscription and are relying on a generic gray navigation map with limited info and a Bluetooth connection to your phone…then yes, the infotainment sucks compared to CarPlay…but with the connected subscription it’s unmatched from my experience.
two Citroën C5s and a Mercedes CLA
all had Carplay
Carplay is the best interface I’ve seen, but I’m happy if a different one is developed for Tesla as long as it’s an improvement
I carry a large collection of music on my phone, and I mostly want to listen to that
I’ve had DAB radio on three cars, great to cover the rest of the time
travelling in Australia means areas of poor phone signal, so anything that has to be streamed is less optimal - even if I wanted that
my wife has a Citroën DS5, nine years old so pre-Carplay
it has a similar interface to the Tesla, definitely sub-par
I like lots of things about my car, but I’m looking forward to a better music player
 
This is because Norway is small, urban and dense with good infrastructure.

Canada is supar large, and most of the country is unmaintained or undermaintained. It's hard to get to an open gas station on road trips, let alone a supercharger.

Trust me, I love Tesla, but it just doesn't work well here even with the special Winter package and extended range version.
Your point about the roads might be right, but calling Norway small is maybe a bit of a reach. From south to north is over 2.377km of driving - in my book quite a lot
 
Many of you have never driven a Tesla and it shows. Tesla's built-in navigation is purpose built for EV. Automatic charging stop calculation. PINCH AND ZOOM. Also apps understands the screen size and uses it optimally efficiently. Music apps goes from full screen to tray mode to fully collapsed. As does transitions between vehicle control, HVAC and entertainment. Along with split screen between self-driving computer visualization (so you know it sees the damn car too and won't slam into it, otherwise you should over-ride), navigation to be overlayed on the self-driving split screen vs primary pane (when the primary pane is off to change music or whatever), etc etc etc.

Apple CarPlay doesn't stick a candle to this and is massively inferior. CarPlay is merely a stop gap compromise to bridge all the legacy manufacturers that has horrible software implementations. The only advantage of CarPlay is more apps. But every app that Tesla do already have, Tesla is much more optimized for Tesla environments. It's not even close.

*I drove a Model Y for 2 years and my dad drives a CRV with CarPlay, which I often borrows

I have been driving BMW for as long as I can remember and they have been awarded for the iDrive systems a lot of times. I loved the navigation and UI etc., but after switching to a Model 3 last year it has put a completely different light on the other systems. CarPlay is good for a rental with crappy system but doesn't come close to the Tesla - the Tesla feels like an optimized iPad Pro experience comparable to an old phone
 
They actually have them added in France, so that would work.

Would still need to get data from the car about the state of charge, battery temperature and weather effect on the power per kilometer, to be a good solution and as efficient as the Tesla.
 
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