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Which also have major outages but fans and media keep quiet about them

And yet you provide no links. It's clear that Apple's service go down much too frequently. Anytime I want to access Google and Dropbox, I can. Not so with Apple. This is becoming a habit with them.
 
More and more, I'm considering migrating back to Google, Dropbox services. iCloud had too many outages in such short period....

I did so a while back. I tried going all in with Apple, but it just doesn't work. Everything feels tacked on and not well integrated.

This may actually be the first year I go for an Android device for my phone depending on the next Nexus.
 
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Glad I'm not alone. Somehow I always discover this stuff before it gets out on the web and I panic thinking its only me that is affected.
 
More and more, I'm considering migrating back to Google, Dropbox services. iCloud had too many outages in such short period....

Yes, so many. I can remember maybe 2? Usually it's fixed within 20 minutes. If it went down regularly, I can understand everyone's frustrations but people think just because it's "Apple" there will be no issues. Wrong. Google has had regular service disruptions as well, if not more than Apple. It happens. The world won't end, life goes on and you will forget about it just as quickly as it's fixed.
 
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Yup. This past year has been the first time in my 25 years of using macs that I have deliberately avoided installing updates and using specific services because, after giving them a more than fair try, they just don't work as advertised. iCloud music library and iCloud Photo Library being the two worst offenders.

It's crazy isn't it?

I reckon that Apple could potentially make a lot more money from iCloud if they offered an AppleCare product for it. But the problem with that is that because their iCloud services have been so bloomin' unpredictable of late and so beta-like, they'd end up paying out more than they're making from SLA failures!
 
Which also have major outages but fans and media keep quiet about them
Having outages isn't the problem, we all accept that. Having lots of them, or just unreliable service, is Apple's problem. I still can't simply assume that an iMessage has actually reached the recipient, or that the POIs on a map are up to date.
 
If they don't take this as a cue (no pun intended) to get serious about this, then I may start questioning my loyalty to the brand, not something I do lightly, but when I switch loyalties I go all in or nothing. I feel someday very soon Apple will face a huge wave of last straws if they don't get their act together like right now.
 
If they don't take this as a cue (no pun intended) to get serious about this, then I may start questioning my loyalty to the brand, not something I do lightly, but when I switch loyalties I go all in or nothing. I feel someday very soon Apple will face a huge wave of last straws if they don't get their act together like right now.

Nah, fortunately for them the UI design on Android and Windows is still horrible, relative to iOS.
 
Yes, so many. I can remember maybe 2? Usually it's fixed within 20 minutes. If it went down regularly, I can understand everyone's frustrations but people think just because it's "Apple" there will be no issues. Wrong. Google has had regular service disruptions as well, if not more than Apple. It happens. The world won't end, life goes on and you will forget about it just as quickly as it's fixed.

They do - but Google has a lot more experience in dealing with those failures - and in a much more timely manner. Plus Google offer SLAs and a business/enterprise tier that compensates for when things do go wrong (note I say when, not if). Apple's "cloud" is purely consumer focused.
 
Apple is a hardware company. Everything else they do is in support of selling their hardware, and they don't really care if their software is riddled with bugs or if their cloud services are down repeatedly. I used to be all in with Apple, but that has changed over the last few years.
 
Apple is a hardware company. Everything else they do is in support of selling their hardware, and they don't really care if their software is riddled with bugs or if their cloud services are down repeatedly. I used to be all in with Apple, but that has changed over the last few years.

Where is Steve Jobs when you need him...?

If he had been around, he would have shoved the WTF questions down his engineers' throats...
 
Put back up the antenna. Cut the middlemen (Apple included out)... even cut the Internet itself out. Or insist on streaming everything and trust that the middlemen can deliver (and not exploit the dependency on them). Audio & Video signals are still buzzing around through the air for free if we want to ask them. They even work in harsh storms, when broadband pipes are down, whether you have a cell plan or not, etc.

The next evolution of the internet is mesh networks. That's already started... people taking the internet back from the big corporate overlords.
 
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Life is what happens to you / While you're busy waiting for Apple to get their **** together.
 
Apple really, really don't get how to do cloud services properly and reliably and this is just the latest in a long list of cloud issues stretching back to the complete clusterf- that was the MobileMe launch and beyond.

Yes, all companies have occasional issues with their cloud services, but Apple make a habit of it!
 
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