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Easy for you to say, but as you know, they are continually investing into data centres and infrastructure. It's going to take time to balance out the demand around the world.

Why aren't they building a massive floating data platform like Google? /s

I meant that they still rely on external cloud services when they could have decided a while ago to build their own from the ground up
 
umm im an apple fan boy but apple music has a long way to go to replace pandora all of the things below i can do with a free pandora account and i can't with Apple Music :

1. I can't rename a station i create
2. Stations i put effort in to making just get tossed in to recently payed if you can find them there is no central place like " My Stations to find them.
3. no way to delete a station
Music has been out less than a month, and it still offers more. You can't compare that to Pandora that's been out for years and has done practically nothing to take their business to the next level in terms of customer retention.
 
Why aren't they building a massive floating data platform like Google? /s

I meant that they still rely on external cloud services when they could have decided a while ago to build their own from the ground up

They use both... existing third-party services, and third-party solutions in their own data centres. But networking technology does have limitations. A 1,000,000 devices trying to connect to a single service (#Beats1) at the same time. That's no small challenge to handle.
 
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Me too. I think people just like to bitch about Apple, and act like it's only them.

My Netflix goes down and is slow most days around 8pm eastern. I don't trust it around that time. My power goes out in some storms, so does cable tv. My internet goes out occasionally or is slow sometimes. Things aren't perfect yet. I expect hiccups. Maybe in 10 years things will be more perfect, but they aren't now.

Some people crochet, others bitch about Apple. Got to fill in the hours somehow, right?

Personally, I'm lucky I guess I've had only one instance of Apple's cloud services failing on me (Apple Music is working for me currently), otherwise the worst offender is PlayStation Network. Easily. Worse is that to use apps like Netflix and YouTube on the PlayStation I have to be logged into PSN and it either goes down too frequently or I get signed out and takes forever to sign back in. The supposed new Apple TV can't come soon enough.
 
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Yes, I take issue with blatant lies. Pandora is still the top streaming service. That might change, but facts are facts.
You posted NO facts. You were completely WRONG about Spotify's active user base. Just quit while you're still behind.
Blatant lies were told alright, but not by me...
 
They use both... existing third-party services, and third-party solutions in their own data centres. But networking technology does have limitations. A 1,000,000 devices trying to connect to a single service (#Beats1) at the same time. That's no small challenge to handle.

Agreed. I just feel that they have the ability to master it if they put more emphasis on it. More transparency would be nice too. I can handle it going down, but the status page often never shows it and when it does it says "Some users are affected." and once it is fixed we get no reason or statement at all. Beats 1 have never acknowledged being off the air.

EDIT: Anyway everything appears to be back up now.
 
I withdraw my previous comments about Apple Music and Beats1 working again. Suddenly the music stopped streaming and I was presented with alerts that I had "started playing Apple Music on another device and had reached my device limit"... uh... no I hadn't. So... it's broken again. :p
 
Tim Cook needs to hire someone to run cloud services for Apple. Cue would have enough on his plate with TV, Music, iTunes, Pay and AppStore.

I do agree that Eddie Cue has more than enough on his plate. Let's hope this very embarrassing outage sees some changes.

(Apple probably will need to pay MTV for the loss in listeners due to the outage.)
 
hope the services are back up.. if the stores are down NO OTA updates for os Betas will be available and will need to be loaded from ADC instead.
 
I knew Apple would have these issues with demand on their first live music streaming service. It's a horrible type of service to manage because of how much bandwidth it consumes consistently without breaks. Also, you can't aggressively cache a live service as much as services such as Spotify/Pandora (you can make popular tracks available on quicker storage/networking).

Again though, Apple have enough money to design a robust system that's geo-located, low-latency and has fail-over. I bet it isn't though and is coming from one location. And also it's down for me again.
 
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Apple has great hardware, good software ... but at services they totally suck.

In my perfect world it would have been great if Google and Apple would have played well together with Apple providing the OS and the hardware and Google providing all the service related things.
Actually who as the most experience with cloud based services is Amazon. That partnership would work.
 
This is why people still want to own their music. All this cloud stuff can go down down down the drain. How is it just about EVERY other music service can stay up? Pandora has never once been down for me in almost 10 years. Apple might just need to throw in the towel on cloud services. They never can get them right.

I do use iTunes Match which gets me through looooong work days. I am not interested in Apple Music, Spotify or any of the others. There are many instances where I have no access to the internet nor cell data (or I don't want to use up my data)...and I don't want to have to worry about saving stuff for "offline listening" beforehand.
 
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You would think a company as rich as Apple could afford to purchase decent equipment to stay running. Google does cloud services so well. From Apple's terrible launch of MobileMe in 2008, to the rocky iCloud launch, horrible Apple Music and now Beats 1. Plus iCloud has lots of random outages. Why does Eddy Cue still work there? He has demonstrated multiple times over that he isn't capable of doing his job properly.
 
You couldn't sign up to pay $10/month for that "crap" anyway. It's automatically a free trial for 3 months. But thanks for that anti-Apple post. Makes my day. ;)
And maybe that's why it's 'free' for the first 3 months. Work out the bugs. After that, I wouldn't pay $10 for a 'sometimes' service.
As others have mentioned, there are very few items I trust iCloud for. I won't back up phone, photos or music.
 
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Looks like they've removed some services from the status page!? (including Beats Music). Very odd.
 
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