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Well, this Apple Music BS today is a win for Pandora and for me. Glad I haven't canceled that subscription yet. Enjoying my The Kooks channel in Pandora this morning. Loving it!
 
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While you guys are bitching and moaning; it's back up for me. Beats Radio is anyway :)
 
Apple is a hardware company. Everything else they do is in support of selling their hardware, and they don't really care if their software is riddled with bugs or if their cloud services are down repeatedly. I used to be all in with Apple, but that has changed over the last few years.

Of course they care, but they are doing too much, too fast. OS X El Capitan and iOS 9 are examples of when they set the goal of getting their wheels back on the tracks... just a few new features, and a major focus on reliability and performance.
 
Eddie Cue simply has too much on his plate. Every one of his services have launched in disaster.

He is a senior vice president, obviously not capable of running the business with expected quality, incapable of hiring right talent and delegating tasks if the plate is so full. We pay premium for quality we do not get.
 
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They can just about get away with this...just...while people are on the free trial. Imagine when people are actually paying for this service...personally I will give it a year and see how the dust settles.

Back up for anyone else?

While you guys are bitching and moaning; it's back up for me. Beats Radio is anyway :)
 
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This is why people still want to own their music. All this cloud stuff can go down down down the drain. How is it just about EVERY other music service can stay up? Pandora has never once been down for me in almost 10 years. Apple might just need to throw in the towel on cloud services. They never can get them right.

If it was Pandora that was down, unless it was for days, it wouldn't make the headlines anywhere.
I'm not sure it would be any different for Google Music.

I feel like when Apple services like music are down, it's the end of the world.

Even if it were calendar isn't most of that going to be synced to most of your devices? (Incoming mail is constantly changing)

Gary
 
That might be because hardly anyone is using Pandora anymore. With iTunes Radio and Spotify freemium you don't need the limited and ghetto and aging Pandora.

This reminds me of New York's club scene. One minute, you're hot, the next, the club kids are off to another emerging hot spot.
 
While you guys are bitching and moaning; it's back up for me. Beats Radio is anyway :)

Me too. I think people just like to bitch about Apple, and act like it's only them.

My Netflix goes down and is slow most days around 8pm eastern. I don't trust it around that time. My power goes out in some storms, so does cable tv. My internet goes out occasionally or is slow sometimes. Things aren't perfect yet. I expect hiccups. Maybe in 10 years things will be more perfect, but they aren't now.
 
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Has Apple ever launched a service or software that hasn't been completely messed up in the last few years? The answer is: no.

iCloud, Maps, Pro Software, iWork, Photos, Apple Music, iCloud Photo Library, iOS 8. It never ends.

This company's focus on the bottom line is hurting them. It's clear they are taking shortcuts to increase profits.
Actually iTools and Dot Mac ran perfectly. Check the history.
 
Beats 1 is "Always On" again for me too :)

Me too. I think people just like to bitch about Apple, and act like it's only them.

My Netflix goes down and is slow most days around 8pm eastern. I don't trust it around that time. My power goes out in some storms, so does cable tv. My internet goes out occasionally or is slow sometimes. Things aren't perfect yet. I expect hiccups. Maybe in 10 years things will be more perfect, but they aren't now.

I'm not bitching, I just expect more from Apple, and I know they can do better. Like a disappointed parent.
 
Has Apple ever launched a service or software that hasn't been completely messed up in the last few years? The answer is: no.

iCloud, Maps, Pro Software, iWork, Photos, Apple Music, iCloud Photo Library, iOS 8. It never ends.

This company's focus on the bottom line is hurting them. It's clear they are taking shortcuts to increase profits.

Today's outage problem can be pegged on one thing – demand. So many people trying to connect to their servers, it caused problems. Now if you want to argue that they are trying to keep costs lower by using the same servers for too much, that would be reasonable. But a motivation of *increasing profits*? They're giving Apple Music and Beats1 to everyone in the world for free. That hardly shows greed. We all know that Apple is a master at profit margins, but today's problem has nothing to do with that.
 
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And the winner for the worst cloud service goes to ....................

They have been the "winner" for worst cloud services since .mac. I've learned my lesson. Any Apple service with "cloud" in it, I turn off. iCloud Drive is off, Photos in cloud, off, music in cloud, off, etc. I only trust Dropbox with my files in the cloud. I have been trying to give Apple my money to do what Dropbox does for years now, and they laugh at me all the time.
 
Is that why they have 80 million active users compared to 20 million for spotify? Check your facts before you spout off garbage.
LOL, "Spout off garbage". Sounds like I tapped a nerve with that type of reply. Chill.
And maybe YOU should check your facts. Spotify has more than 40 million. :rolleyes:

EDIT: actually as of June Spotify has more than 75million users. Oh there goes your hating argument.
 
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Yes, so many. I can remember maybe 2? Usually it's fixed within 20 minutes. If it went down regularly, I can understand everyone's frustrations but people think just because it's "Apple" there will be no issues. Wrong. Google has had regular service disruptions as well, if not more than Apple. It happens. The world won't end, life goes on and you will forget about it just as quickly as it's fixed.
2 in two months period? If you didn't notice more it doesn't mean that other regions, countries didn't have issues.
 
How about they spend a little bit of their massive reserve on their own infrastructure rather than share buybacks...

Easy for you to say, but as you know, they are continually investing into data centres and infrastructure. It's going to take time to balance out the demand around the world.
 
That might be because hardly anyone is using Pandora anymore. With iTunes Radio and Spotify freemium you don't need the limited and ghetto and aging Pandora.

umm im an apple fan boy but apple music has a long way to go to replace pandora all of the things below i can do with a free pandora account and i can't with Apple Music :

1. I can't rename a station i create
2. Stations i put effort in to making just get tossed in to recently payed if you can find them there is no central place like " My Stations to find them.
3. no way to delete a station
 
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