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Wouldn't mind losing Music, but an arse when I'm paying for Match and can't access any of my music in the cloud from my phone. But such is life!
 
So tired of these all too frequent issues with Apple cloud services!

This is the reason I've recently thrown my hands in the air and moved to Google (along with replacing my iPhone 6) - I love my Mac but god knows Apple need a boot up the backside and address the persistent issues they're having with their cloud service infrastructure. Long term they're wanting to become a bigger player in the many spaces that'll use its cloud infrastructure for a backend but if they can't get what they provide now done reliably then I don't hold out much hope that they'll cope when even more stress is put on the system. I always get the impression that in the case of Apple that they're throwing stuff against a wall rather than delivering a cohesive plan that'll address the growth they'll experience as they start offering more services - Notes/Reminders hacking up the IMAP protocol being a good example of that, the maps even many years later is horrible outside of the US and parts of Europe.
 
I still can't play anything in iTunes Match, it's been down all day. Thankfully I also have all my music uploaded to my Google Music account so I could still listen to stuff at work. I'd rather use iTunes though.
 
He doesn't need to fire Eddy he just needs to poach someone from Microsoft, Google or Amazon who is experience in running cloud services. Eddy would have plenty to do overseeing AppStore, TV, Apple Music, Pay and iTunes.

Why would you want this guy running anything in Apple? Everything he manages turns into a disaster. The guy's a liability not an asset.
 
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This just only confirmed Apple is still years behind in cloud technology including data center compared to google among others.
 
This just only confirmed Apple is still years behind in cloud technology including data center compared to google among others.
Because others don't have outages (at times affecting various other services beyond even their own)?
 
Id go further than that. Not just one tentpole for 'web services' but group similar web services together.

So maybe: Online Stores (including iTunes, App Store, Apple Music, iBooks, apple online store etc); iCloud (data syncing, iCloud drive, CloudKit, etc); Data Managment (for services that require organising huge amounts of data like Maps, Siri and Spotlight).

And Apple being Apple the teams would talk to each other. So the App Store search would get better as the Siri team made advancements in data managment.

Then again, what if there are already teams like this, all led by VPs who report to Cue?

Agreed, I was using "web services" as a placeholder for any of their backend services. Siri, CloudKit, Maps, yeah all of that should be led by someone who knows how to make this stuff work and is given the budget to do it (which, according to that reddit post from an ex-appler, they currently do not). Cue is mostly great at negotiations, and should be left to focus on content-centric areas. Keep him far away from technical matters.
 
Its a glitch :)

Seems its ok now... Apple could compensate for this, just like not bringing down the site ever time a flood comes in from users updating their iOS devices in the first few hours, but then from Apple's standpoint it would be a waste buying that extra bandwidth since it would only be used twice year to please 100% of users ?

Not worth it... But from a end user standpoint, no more hiccups...

I guess we all have to just suffer ...
 
Please keep storing your family photos in our cloud!
They'll probably be accessible when you need them!
Grandma usually stays for several hours after all, no?

Glassed Silver:mac
 
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Because others don't have outages (at times affecting various other services beyond even their own)?

Objectively compared to google apple is still behind in the data center technology the hardware part of clouds. Google design and build their own servers, design and build their own networked protocol, design and build their own routers, build their own fiber optic networked. With the clouds they pioneered distributive computing in their data center. Pioneered containerization in cloud computing among others.

That said google have maintained to have efficient cloud services and minimize outages.
 
Loving the combo...

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Apple - Taylor Swift - bad blood

Guess she needs to send Eddy Cue a letter...

Glassed Silver:mac
 
Objectively compared to google apple is still behind in the data center technology the hardware part of clouds. Google design and build their own servers, design and build their own networked protocol, design and build their own routers, build their own fiber optic networked. With the clouds they pioneered distributive computing in their data center. Pioneered containerization in cloud computing among others.

That said google have maintained to have efficient cloud services and minimize outages.
Minimize, sure, but there have still been more than just one or two Gmail and other Google services outages as well. Also just a few weeks ago there was an issue related to backend services Amazon provides to a chunk of Internet services so when that happened it wasn't just Amazon customers that were affected but many other services online. So none of this is some sort of unique or unheard of thing, it happens to even the best of them as they say.
 
Minimize, sure, but there have still been more than just one or two Gmail and other Google services outages as well. Also just a few weeks ago there was an issue related to backend services Amazon provides to a chunk of Internet services so when that happened it wasn't just Amazon customers that were affected but many other services online. So none of this is some sort of unique or unheard of thing, it happens to even the best of them as they say.

That boils down to the reliability of apple iclouds, it is common knowledge since the start or launch of it, it continues to suffer outages, slow down, most embarrassing it was hacked (icloud security issues) among others that affected apple various services.

For Amazon I think they have minimal issues on their AWS as compared to icloud. Amazon are already starting to imitate google by customising their data center to catch up with google for robustness of data center and cloud infrastructure.

Apple has enough cash on hand and i heard they are also starting to upgrade their data center, anyway better late than never at least they can catch up several years behind.
 
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That boils down to the reliability of apple iclouds, it is common knowledge since the start or launch of it, it continues to suffer outages, slow down, most embarrassing it was hacked (icloud security issues) among others that affected apple various services.

For Amazon I think they have minimal issues on their AWS as compared to icloud. Amazon are already starting to imitate google by customising their data center to catch up with google for robustness of data center and cloud infrastructure.

Apple has enough cash on hand and i heard they are also starting to upgrade their data center, anyway better late than never at least they can catch up several years behind.
And yet Google still had hacking issues. And yet with much more important services and much more invested into the infrastructure and everything related to it Google and Amazon have had down times nonetheless. So, again, what's the doom and gloom here? Yes, of course Apple can be better, just as those other services can be better too. Nothing exactly all that extraordinary or crazy.
 
And yet Google still had hacking issues. And yet with much more important services and much more invested into the infrastructure and everything related to it Google and Amazon have had down times nonetheless. So, again, what's the doom and gloom here? Yes, of course Apple can be better, just as those other services can be better too. Nothing exactly all that extraordinary or crazy.




That's why I stress the word reliability among the clouds offerings of google, amazon, and apple.
If the outages are common with a just several month time interval per year as experience by icloud that only shows the poor reliability of iclouds.

Of course google have issue of hacking (aided by chinese government resources), but not as scandalous as this celebrity nude pictures.
 
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