Agreed! i should of said that in the first place
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Apple Music Classical: 15 Things You Need to Know About the New App
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It will probably be buried.As a lot of this classical music is going to be around 200 years since it was written.
Does than mean in 2223 todays pop music will be Classical
Maybe (hopefully) with iOS 16.5/iOS 17 it will expand across the whole family of products?
It exists. It's just very very very hard to handle, mostly because the search is so bad.
I wanted pretty badly to be able to make it work well, but it was just too borked.
Apple apparently decided the same thing and bought Primephonic, who had gotten it right.
i am very exited. i hope there is no fancy spacial audio ai, only pur audio as it was recorded 🤞🏾
I think 24/48 is still great, lossless, and I’m not going to get into an argument over whether you can hear the difference between a 48kHz sample rate and a 192kHz sample rate, but in answer to your question, I understand the limitation being (a) Apple TV was designed as a video device and 48 is the industry standard for the audio tracks of movies, and (b) there are some challenges associated with the AppleTV deciding which sample rate to pass through the hdmi cable - and if you select 192, it would upsample everything to that frequency, and not just identify the sample rate of the track, and pass through at that track’s native sample rate. I think what’s missing is the ability for AppleTV to auto detect the sample rate of source materials and output it a that rate. (I’d be happy for someone to jump in and explain this better). Even on my external audio interface, if I want to play hi-res lossless, I have to go into the audio interface’s dashboard and change the frequency manually to the output desired.
Looking forward to this. I assume that this being an iOS-only app means that usage predominantly comes from this platform, so not having iPad/Mac/TV versions at launch makes sense.
It seems like classical music could really pop with spatial audio, especially with orchestras. It would be cool to hear an orchestra from the conductors position, in spatial audio. Will be curious to hear the sound quality. I'm assuming that the iPhone only app could be opened and used on the iPad, but just not in full screen on the iPad (like other iPhone only apps)? They should bring this to iPad and MacOS and tvOS soon. But because of airplay, this will work for most in order to get the product out there. Kudos to apple for rolling it into current subscriptions. I want to try it and will use it, but would not be willing to pay a separate subscription for it.
So the service will have over 5 million tracks.
Question: do you think score soundtracks will be available there or on the regular Apple Music app? I love a good score soundtrack, so I’ll listen no matter where they are, but just wondering where would be a good place to find them.
Question: do you think score soundtracks will be available there or on the regular Apple Music app? I love a good score soundtrack, so I’ll listen no matter where they are, but just wondering where would be a good place to find them.
I’m sure iPad/Mac/ATV apps, and HomePod access are in the works. Because if not
It always irks me how people use "Classical Music" when describing symphonic music.
Baroque music was from 1600 to the death of J. S. Bach in 1750
Classical music was from 1750 to around 1825.
Romantic music was from 1825 to around 1900.
Impressionist music kind of overlaps here from around 1890 to around 1930.
From 1900 onward, we have a bunch of different, overlapping eras (Impressionism, Expressionism, Neoclassical, etc).
Again, it just irks me. Nothing more, and I know I'm in the minority on this one. I want to try the app, btw.
Baroque music was from 1600 to the death of J. S. Bach in 1750
Classical music was from 1750 to around 1825.
Romantic music was from 1825 to around 1900.
Impressionist music kind of overlaps here from around 1890 to around 1930.
From 1900 onward, we have a bunch of different, overlapping eras (Impressionism, Expressionism, Neoclassical, etc).
Again, it just irks me. Nothing more, and I know I'm in the minority on this one. I want to try the app, btw.
Western symphonic music, at that.It always irks me how people use "Classical Music" when describing symphonic music.
Baroque music was from 1600 to the death of J. S. Bach in 1750
Classical music was from 1750 to around 1825.
Romantic music was from 1825 to around 1900.
Impressionist music kind of overlaps here from around 1890 to around 1930.
From 1900 onward, we have a bunch of different, overlapping eras (Impressionism, Expressionism, Neoclassical, etc).
Again, it just irks me. Nothing more, and I know I'm in the minority on this one. I want to try the app, btw.
It always irks me how people use "Classical Music" when describing symphonic music.
Baroque music was from 1600 to the death of J. S. Bach in 1750
Classical music was from 1750 to around 1825.
Romantic music was from 1825 to around 1900.
Impressionist music kind of overlaps here from around 1890 to around 1930.
From 1900 onward, we have a bunch of different, overlapping eras (Impressionism, Expressionism, Neoclassical, etc).
Again, it just irks me. Nothing more, and I know I'm in the minority on this one. I want to try the app, btw.
I, mean, sure...but for quite a while, lower-case "classical" has been used to refer to all Western art music, not just the classical period. So it's not incorrect.
Plus a lot of those genres are nebulously defined and gatekept (and I'm sure many could dispute the chronological ranges for the periods you've provided). Is Beethoven Classical or Romantic? Is his late work more Romantic? Is Mahler late Romantic or early Modern? And none of the "impressionist" composers seemed to actually like or use that label. So, eh...labels are imperfect.
"Classical" is really just a large umbrella term that opposes Western art music with popular music or folk music.
And what do you do with composers who deliberately blur genre lines?
New York font... is that like spiritual successor to Garamond?
"There is no version of Apple Music Classical for iPadOS, making it an iPhone-only app."
Feel free to add that there is no macOS version either.
"There is no version of Apple Music Classical for iPadOS, making it an iPhone-only app."
Feel free to add that there is no macOS version either.
I don’t disagree, but then why not call it Apple Music Symphonic (and you could accelerate search using the new Apple Silicon Symphonic Bionic!).
There are also folks that would take issue with your delineation of “art music”….
I guess it comes down to what Apple considers appropriate for this channel versus not and if there’s a clear definition of that.
Well, you have to start somewhere. If we can't define "symphonic", "art", "classical", then why have a separate app at all? Clearly "classical" is a meaningful category--that's sort of why there's all the discussion about the need for a separate app in the first place. "Symphonic" is a more narrow term, "classical" is the umbrella term and the most common term so that's why Apple picked it, I'm sure.
I am really excited that they have, at last, decided to release a Classical music app. with properly curated content and search functions. However, as usual, there are some questions and comments:
1. iOS only, why? I use a dedicated 24" iMac as my music server and playlist generator, so this release will prevent me from continuing the use of my iMac, if I want to use this app. Given that classical music aficionados will probably want high quality reproduction, this makes little sense.
2. Will the music available via the new app be removed from the standard Apple Music library? If not then 1 above does not bother me. However if they remove the music from the standard app and/or add unique content that is not available via the standard app I have a serious problem. I am hoping that this app is only a classical music curating front end to the existing Apple Music library so the only selection criteria for the classical music app is that the genre is classical.
3. Lossless and spatial streaming will be great, but when will Airplay and the BT codec support lossless in Apple products. My understanding is that Spatial can be provided over BT and Airplay but Lossless is only available via wired connections, so making this iOS only makes even less sense.
Overall I am very happy that they are adding a properly curated and indexed classical music catalogue, but am wondering why it is only partly implemented.
1. iOS only, why? I use a dedicated 24" iMac as my music server and playlist generator, so this release will prevent me from continuing the use of my iMac, if I want to use this app. Given that classical music aficionados will probably want high quality reproduction, this makes little sense.
2. Will the music available via the new app be removed from the standard Apple Music library? If not then 1 above does not bother me. However if they remove the music from the standard app and/or add unique content that is not available via the standard app I have a serious problem. I am hoping that this app is only a classical music curating front end to the existing Apple Music library so the only selection criteria for the classical music app is that the genre is classical.
3. Lossless and spatial streaming will be great, but when will Airplay and the BT codec support lossless in Apple products. My understanding is that Spatial can be provided over BT and Airplay but Lossless is only available via wired connections, so making this iOS only makes even less sense.
Overall I am very happy that they are adding a properly curated and indexed classical music catalogue, but am wondering why it is only partly implemented.
Excellent video, thanks. I for one am looking forward to this upcoming app. What's old really is new again
So what do you day when someone asks you if you like music in the classical view? Instead of saying, "I like classical music", you would say "I like baroque music, classical music, romantic music, impressionist music, and music from 1900 onward ..."? Sounds very cumbersome and OCD to me. But what do I know? I love classical music.It always irks me how people use "Classical Music" when describing symphonic music.
Baroque music was from 1600 to the death of J. S. Bach in 1750
Classical music was from 1750 to around 1825.
Romantic music was from 1825 to around 1900.
Impressionist music kind of overlaps here from around 1890 to around 1930.
From 1900 onward, we have a bunch of different, overlapping eras (Impressionism, Expressionism, Neoclassical, etc).
Again, it just irks me. Nothing more, and I know I'm in the minority on this one. I want to try the app, btw.
Woah, woah, woah! What exactly have you got against redheads or step children?!?!
Agreed - I use AppleTV through my multichannel home system for Atmos / spatial audio content. Really need this to come to AppleTV and / or Mac ASAP.