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So ridiculous that Apple's customers have to craft up some hack to just play music on their PC ― are they taking this music thing seriously? Or is this part of the "Apple tax"

Download iTunes and play all you want. It’s secure just like the app on your phone for. It works for Windows and Macs just not on the insecure Chrome notebooks.
 
Instead of a Cease and Dessist letter....

What Apple should do is contact this developer, buy his website and pay him for his work, and then release it as an official Apple’s website.
 
....Apple's customers usually just install iTunes.

Some people avoid installing that malware. I only do it to DFU restore a device from Windows but uninstalling it is a PITA since it litters your computer with subcomponents that isn't removed with uninstall so you have to search for and uninstall manually.
 
Instead of a Cease and Dessist letter....

What Apple should do is contact this developer, buy his website and pay him for his work, and then release it as an official Apple’s website.
Apple doesn't need to buy this guy's work, they have their web designers ― not to mention that it's probably not setup exactly how Apple wants it

The problem is not that Apple can't make their own online service, it's they don't want to, for whatever reason
 
iTunes is a bloated mess
I understand for things like your personal music library, maybe. but if you just search a song on Apple Music and double click, as far as I know the thing just plays.. Works for a bunch of computers I have used over the last few years.
 
I understand for things like your personal music library, maybe. but if you just search a song on Apple Music and double click, as far as I know the thing just plays.. Works for a bunch of computers I have used over the last few years.
It’s a lot slower than Spotify’s desktop app.
 
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Streaming music is corporate-designed thievery.

Musicians end up with next to nothing even after thousands of streams, while Apple, Spotify and other wrap ads and service fees around it.

Artists pointing their customers to iTunes to sell their albums are having them intercepted and sent to streaming pages first. Good for Apple, bad for musicians.

It destroys one of the few meagre means they had to get paid.
Artists have always made their real money on tours and merch. If streaming puts their music in front of X new listeners, who then show up to their shows... who's to say if they've gained or lost?
 
It’s a lot slower than Spotify’s desktop app.
never used Spotify so I cant comment on the speed but I can say Windows is faster than Mac for some people and Mac is faster than Windows for others.. maybe this is the case here too?
 
I'm pretty sure this is a supported use of Apple's official APIs, so I don't expect it to be shut down by lawyers.

Apple should really have an official webplayer, though. This is a great proof-of-concept, showing that the existing APIs are sufficient and all Apple needs to do is build the frontend.
 
never used Spotify so I cant comment on the speed but I can say Windows is faster than Mac for some people and Mac is faster than Windows for others.. maybe this is the case here too?
No, the Spotify desktop app has results as you type search and everything is instantaneous. It’s like this on both the Mac and Windows versions of the app. It makes me cringe a bit when I have to go back to iTunes for something. The collaborative playlists are also nice between friends and family.
 
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Streaming music is corporate-designed thievery.

Musicians end up with next to nothing even after thousands of streams, while Apple, Spotify and other wrap ads and service fees around it.

Artists pointing their customers to iTunes to sell their albums are having them intercepted and sent to streaming pages first. Good for Apple, bad for musicians.

It destroys one of the few meagre means they had to get paid.

Corporate-designed thievery, indeed. But this is nothing new.

Even in the days of $16 CDs... the artist only made a tiny fraction of the profit per unit.

The music industry has always favored the record labels over the artist. Sad but true.

I hear what you're saying... that streaming is taking more of what little money the artist makes. But it's always been tough being an artist in the music industry. Even before streaming.

The best way to make money as an artist is to play live shows. This is as true today as it was 30 years ago.
 
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One developer made a beautiful web app in about a month while a 1000+ team of world-class developers and 3.5 years in a multi-billion dollar company didn't bother to do anything.
And listens to feedback. I only leave feedback on github devs which does not nag you for feedback and they listen and fix things quickly. All the big companies like Apple and Google nag you for feedback and goes into a black hole of nothing so I don't bother wasting my time.
 
This web app has a github. You can see the source code and even host the web app yourself in a personal web server.

Also the dev needs to change the domain name of the site. You can’t have ‘Apple’ in it if it’s related to Apple.

Otherwise, he’s safe.
 
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I was fine with iTunes until I got a new iPhone a few weeks ago and tried to back up/restore only to be told iTunes doesn't do this anymore and I have to use iCloud. Great, because that backup only took 8hrs and maxed out my free iCloud storage allotment.
Just split iTunes for owned music and backups and make an Apple Music app.

I want to use this web player but I'll wait until more posters convince me it's safe.

Btw the most pathetic part of Apple Music vs. Spotify is it not supporting telling you that you are listening on another device while letting you control your library from another. With AM it's interrupt that device or do nothing.
 
At work, I cannot use iTunes as they wont allow us to download it to the computer. This is a great workaround for me!


So many users choose spotify or pandora specifically for this reason. Working in IT and managing thousands of computers (and being an old mac guy at heart) iTunes on windows is unneeded junk these days. Users just want to stream cloud music, not manage a library on their work machine. A simple player thick app is ok, but for security and update purposes, we would prefer people just access via web players. I don't have to manage the 3rd party updates or run out of date software. The user doesn't need any admin access, it isn't installing or pestering about installing icloud.. all this is just dumb to listen to some tunes while working. Alternatives that work are free/same price as itunes, so the choice is simple till apple gets their act together and realize how people listen to music.
 
That plays music just fine.
No it doesnt. Its slow, takes a lot of ram, it looks hideous, unintuitive, stupid and overall feels like it was made by somebody who walks around town and punches old people for fun
 
Since every other major streaming service doesn’t rely on bloatware like iTunes, this anachronistic prerequisite makes using Apple Music on devices you don’t own unnecessary complicated (if not impossible on computers where you can’t install software yourself).

The original statement was that this is not even possible on a PC. Criticisms of iTunes aside, it's obvious people will whine about anything and everything.
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Streaming music is corporate-designed thievery.

Musicians end up with next to nothing even after thousands of streams, while Apple, Spotify and other wrap ads and service fees around it.

Artists pointing their customers to iTunes to sell their albums are having them intercepted and sent to streaming pages first. Good for Apple, bad for musicians.

It destroys one of the few meagre means they had to get paid.

I want artists to be paid more too, but streaming is the alternative to outright piracy for most people.
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Download iTunes and play all you want. It’s secure just like the app on your phone for. It works for Windows and Macs just not on the insecure Chrome notebooks.

But there's an Android app for chromebooks.
 
I don't want Apple messing with my carefully curated iTunes Library because I've had several bad experiences in the past, so I have iCloud Music Library turned off on my iMac. I do use Apple Music on my AppleTV, but the albums that I've added to my library there doesn't show up on my iMac. This provides an excellent workaround to listen to those albums on my iMac while I work.
 
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