Apple Music Joins Music Industry's Blackout Tuesday Awareness Campaign

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I think this is why there is some protesting outside the US for this - the story isn’t about race or guns, it’s about police flaunting the law with impunity and no consequences.

Yes it IS about race. Why is it so hard to accept for people that it IS about race?

 

[now i see it]

"Racism" is choosing one race over another for whatever reason.
Apple Music is now racist

 

[MecPro]

I think the reason things are different now than with past protests is because this one is less about the race of the victim and more about police brutality. There were five cops who were surrounded by a crowd telling them to stop while the cops calmly spent ten minutes murdering a person in cold blood.

This is about our completely broken checks and balances with our cops - they’re entirely above the law. They break laws on a regular basis (I’d wager 90+% of people have seen a cop break a law at least once in-person) and it’s impossible to hold them accountable.
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There were zero guns involved in this story. The cops murdered their victim with only their bare hands and knees.

I think this is why there is some protesting outside the US for this - the story isn’t about race or guns, it’s about police flaunting the law with impunity and no consequences.

Even when their breaking the law is apparently harmless, they’re still eroding trust. They’re sending the signal to themselves and to everyone else that laws don’t apply to them, until this leads to some apparently thinking it’s okay for them to commit murder.

Nope. It's about race.

Race is the overarching issue in the US and and seeps down into every avenue of life. The US was built on racism and thrives on it.

Sometimes y'all need to listen and stop talking to try and define what YOU think the issue is.

The protests outside of the US are all about Black Lives Matter. I know as I've been to them. With all due respect, start reading things on Twitter or IG from black communities to inform yourself.

I really find it insulting and inappropriate to block features for paying customers. Regardless of what is going on in the world, people listen to music to relax. Being bombarded with this issue 24/7 is not good for several people's mental health that is already suffering from covid's social distancing.

I presume you are white, or non-black? Well what about the mental health of black people who are suffering from seeing what is occurring and appreciate the signs of support that Apple and the likes are doing?

You, as a presumed white person, only see this from your privileged views.

 

[Websnapx2]

Hmmm it's pride month, is Apple going to make us listen to Scissor Sisters, Elton John and Cher for the rest of the month? (I'm gay, just making a point.)

I'm all about advocacy, and speaking out, but a company shouldn't FORCE its views on others. There should be an opt out, for those not wanting to be involved.

It's just one day.
You can still listen to your own music.
There is no opt-out because that is precisely the problem — it is too easy to ignore what happening to other people if given the option.

It's one day, you'll live without music recommendations.

 

[Ethosik]

"Racism" is choosing one race over another for whatever reason.
Apple Music is now racist

Yes, this is getting way out of hand. I don't care what you are. I treat you like I want to be treated. You could be an actual alien like Clark Kent and I would not treat you differently.

The discussion should be "Cops should not hold you down and put their knee on your neck for 8 minutes" vs the discussion on race. Cops shouldn't do what happened to white people too.
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Nope. It's about race.

Race is the overarching issue in the US and and seeps down into every avenue of life. The US was built on racism and thrives on it.

Sometimes y'all need to listen and stop talking to try and define what YOU think the issue is.

The protests outside of the US are all about Black Lives Matter. I know as I've been to them. With all due respect, start reading things on Twitter or IG from black communities to inform yourself.

Black Lives Matter is itself racist. All lives matter. I don't care if you are green like Piccolo from Dragon Ball, your life matters.

 

[MadGoat]

I don't listen to the trash that is Beats 1 ... So this has no impact on me. From the couple of times I tried it, it was nothing but garbage content.

 

[MecPro]

Black Lives Matter is itself racist. All lives matter. I don't care if you are green like Piccolo from Dragon Ball, your life matters.

Utter non-sense.

BLM is not saying ONLY black lives matter, rather it is saying "Hey, over here...our lives DO matter because it certainly seems as if it doesn't to most people"

In addition it is taking to the police and saying do not kill us with impunity. When was the last time you saw a white man strangled to death on video by police?

Anyway it was stupid discussing this with a bunch of people who are too fragile to accept their deficiencies. I'm out!

 

[vmistery]

I wonder why Apple decided to apply it globally rather than just to the affected Country? We didn't see anything about the persecution and unexplained deaths of minorities in China pop up for example. I appreciate Apple are US based but this feels a bit OTT or at least incredibly uneven.

 

[Ethosik]

It's just one day.
You can still listen to your own music.
There is no opt-out because that is precisely the problem — it is too easy to ignore what happening to other people if given the option.

It's one day, you'll live without music recommendations.

No its not too easy to ignore. I find listening to music helps me destress and frees my mind and helps my mental state which is already suffering a bit due to the covid social distancing. Blocking something on a digital platform is a very wrong idea. Closing down physical stores is one thing, but a digital platform should be left alone. This is on the news 24/7, people are talking about it at work and on Facebook ALL DAY LONG. Family members and friends are talking about this. How is it easy to ignore what is happening?
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Utter non-sense.

BLM is not saying ONLY black lives matter, rather it is saying "Hey, over here...our lives DO matter because it certainly seems as if it doesn't to most people"

In addition it is taking to the police and saying do not kill us with impunity. When was the last time you saw a white man strangled to death on video by police?

Yet they and many other people complained about the all lives matter stance and that is racist itself. Its not just black lives that matter.

 

[Websnapx2]

"Racism" is choosing one race over another for whatever reason.
Apple Music is now racist

You have a skewed lens you are viewing this all through... No one is choosing "one race over another", what is happening is something is being highlighted that is disproportionally affecting one group more than others. Apple is standing in support with that group. If a child was sick — and we all rallied in support of that child — it is not meant at the detriment of other children. That's just lazy mental gymnastics.

 

[bigjnyc]

I wouldn't call that "operating as usual". You can search for Apple Music playlists and play them that way, but you can't browse them or get suggestions.

I don't mean to be too insensitive to the subject matter, but that's quite a disruption for a $10/mo service (whose client app is already flaky enough as it is). Would it really have hurt to add a little 'x' to close the message and proceed to the regular browsing UI?

(edit)

Or, if disrupting the service like this is by design and a protest statement, I think the message should be clearer. Some fine print at the bottom saying "Your regular Apple Music features like Browse and For You will be back tomorrow.", maybe? Cause right now, it's just not very clear if this is the Music app being janky or a deliberate choice.

Hi Chucker,

I agree with you completely on this. I find this a major disruption. I am in full support but not a fan of the obstructive nature of the 'for you' page at all.

Its 1 day, you'll live.

 

[Ethosik]

You have a skewed lens you are viewing this all through... No one is choosing "one race over another", what is happening is something is being highlighted that is disproportionally affecting one group more than others. Apple is standing in support with that group. If a child was sick — and we all rallied in support of that child — it is not meant at the detriment of other children. That's just lazy mental gymnastics.

Between watching the news all day every day, hearing people at work, family members and friends talk about this, I have yet to see or hear definitive proof that one group is largely being affected more than another. If this was a white person, it would just have been a headline on the local news website. I have seen statistics that do not hold up to this entire narrative.

Yes bad cops exist, but they also treat other people the same way not just the one group.

 

[adamjackson]

Looks like there are work-arounds. I like what Apple is doing but I generally start at "for you" and go from there. The person who opens iTunes every day and goes to Radio and plays "smooth jazz" is going to have a hard time finding it.

The good thing is I still have 25,000 songs I own that I can play.

 

[mnsportsgeek]

I don't listen to the trash that is Beats 1 ... So this has no impact on me. From the couple of times I tried it, it was nothing but garbage content.

I don't really want to take the time to articulate a well thought out response to this, but I think it says something about society that we can call music that is popular in the black community as "garbage" so nonchalantly.

Maybe there is a reason why Apple is putting Beats 1 on a platform today. Take some time to reflect on that instead of complaining.

 

[t76turbo]

Oh wow...complaining about a disruption in Apple Music. Imagine if your entire life (or existence) was interrupted by a bad cop due to the color of your skin.

PAY ATTENTION. THE WORLD IS SPEAKING. LISTEN. UP.

It should be a conversation about police using excessive force on anyone of any color. Instead it has been hijacked by the squeaky wheel.

The crime statistics show that whites are killed at approximately double the rate of blacks in particular and more than that of other races.

I have been slammed around by police, on the ground with hands smashing my face in the concrete and knees in my back, targeted because of my race and the neighborhood I was in at the time while visiting friends. It shouldnt happen to ANYONE. PERIOD.


My wife asked me to subscribe to Apple Music for our family. I was going to do it but just hadn't got around to it. Now I will not subscribe because of their actions today.

 

[Herrpod]

"Racism" is choosing one race over another for whatever reason.
Apple Music is now racist

Throw your dictionary away. Its obviously failing you.
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It should be a conversation about police using excessive force on anyone of any color. Instead it has been hijacked by the squeaky wheel.

The crime statistics show that whites are killed at approximately double the rate of blacks in particular and more than that of other races.

I have been slammed around by police, on the ground with hands smashing my face in the concrete and knees in my back, targeted because of my race and the neighborhood I was in at the time while visiting friends. It shouldnt happen to ANYONE. PERIOD.


My wife asked me to subscribe to Apple Music for our family. I was going to do it but just hadn't got around to it. Now I will not subscribe because of their actions today.

Oh no, now Apple will surely go out of business!

 

[Ethosik]

It should be a conversation about police using excessive force on anyone of any color. Instead it has been hijacked by the squeaky wheel.

The crime statistics show that whites are killed at approximately double the rate of blacks in particular and more than that of other races.

I have been slammed around by police, on the ground with hands smashing my face in the concrete and knees in my back, targeted because of my race and the neighborhood I was in at the time while visiting friends. It shouldnt happen to ANYONE. PERIOD.


My wife asked me to subscribe to Apple Music for our family. I was going to do it but just hadn't got around to it. Now I will not subscribe because of their actions today.

YES, thank you. I have watched the news 24/7 since this started happening, people are talking about it at work, my family members and friends are talking about it non-stop. I have not seen or heard of evidence to support the narrative going on. I have seen the opposite actually just like you. Hearing about this all day every day and wanting to just browse music and relax destress at the end of the day. Yet when I want to browse some music and complain about it people tell me "its too easy to avoid the situation". Really?

 

[JBGoode]

This is a slight annoyance but it’s ok with me for a day. I’ll get over it.

Wow that was fast, I’m already over it.

 

[Websnapx2]

No its not too easy to ignore. I find listening to music helps me destress and frees my mind and helps my mental state which is already suffering a bit due to the covid social distancing. Blocking something on a digital platform is a very wrong idea. Closing down physical stores is one thing, but a digital platform should be left alone.

It very much is — you can search all the content from AM, play music from your own library, "For You" still has you content — it just "browse" and "radio", you can make it through one day without it. How did you manage before? A digital platform should be left alone? That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard — why in the world would that be the case? Because it is inconvenient? That's the point.

This is on the news 24/7, people are talking about it at work and on Facebook ALL DAY LONG. Family members and friends are talking about this. How is it easy to ignore what is happening?

You aren't supposed to ignore it — this is a protest, not the Superbowl and you are not a football fan — it's not supposed to be convenient. You sound exactly like all the "nice people" that thought MLK was "too radical".

 

[cocky jeremy]

More political BS from Apple. Glad I don't use Apple Music to be bothered by this.

 

[HobbesInVA]

Utter non-sense.

BLM is not saying ONLY black lives matter, rather it is saying "Hey, over here...our lives DO matter because it certainly seems as if it doesn't to most people"

In addition it is taking to the police and saying do not kill us with impunity. When was the last time you saw a white man strangled to death on video by police?

Anyway it was stupid discussing this with a bunch of people who are too fragile to accept their deficiencies. I'm out!

All lives matter. That’s is all inclusive. If we just say “Black Lives Matter”...What about Asian Lives Matter? What about LGBT Lives? What about Native American Lives? It’s very narrow minded to just say Black Lives Matter.

 

[Ethosik]

It very much is — you can search all the content from AM, play music from your own library, "For You" still has you content — it just "browse" and "radio", you can make it through one day without it. How did you manage before? A digital platform should be left alone? That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard — why in the world would that be the case? Because it is inconvenient? That's the point.


You aren't supposed to ignore it — this is a protest, not the Superbowl and you are not a football fan — it's not supposed to be convenient. You sound exactly like all the "nice people" that thought MLK was "too radical".

Apple Music does not have everything. I still need to buy items. Where can I find the top songs here to find my next favorite band? If I don't know what to search for, I can't search you know?

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It very much is — you can search all the content from AM, play music from your own library, "For You" still has you content — it just "browse" and "radio", you can make it through one day without it. How did you manage before? A digital platform should be left alone? That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard — why in the world would that be the case? Because it is inconvenient? That's the point.


You aren't supposed to ignore it — this is a protest, not the Superbowl and you are not a football fan — it's not supposed to be convenient. You sound exactly like all the "nice people" that thought MLK was "too radical".

I am not saying I am supposed to ignore it. However, if I complain I cannot find new music people responded with "this is something that is too easy to ignore so just deal with it". I don't think dealing with it for 24/7 is either productive or even healthy. People need their downtime.
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All lives matter. That’s is all inclusive. If we just say “Black Lives Matter”...What about Asian Lives Matter? What about LGBT Lives? What about Native American Lives? It’s very narrow minded to just say Black Lives Matter.

Agree. We need to stop focusing on a single group. LGBT, Black, Asian whatever. Every body matters and everyone should be respected. Singling a group out while ignoring others is NOT what we want.

 

[Websnapx2]

Yet they and many other people complained about the all lives matter stance and that is racist itself. Its not just black lives that matter.

Those who complain do so because they know that ALM is generally used to undermine the conversation. There is no question that all lives matter, however in this context, not all lives are being valued, approached or addressed by the police the same way. You seem to think that BLM elevates blacks' lives above others, and that's incorrect — it's trying to elevate Black lives up to everyone else's.

That's what it is — you can either accept the spirit it is intended in, or you can choose to see it as a message that undermines those who aren't black, but that perception is one you are adopting — not the one that's being sent.

 

[TMRJIJ]

Yet they and many other people complained about the all lives matter stance and that is racist itself. Its not just black lives that matter.

All lives matter. That’s is all inclusive. If we just say “Black Lives Matter”...What about Asian Lives Matter? What about LGBT Lives? What about Native American Lives? It’s very narrow minded to just say Black Lives Matter.

Lots of people on here do not understand the hashtag. It’s to raise awareness of the racial group that is being oppressed. Nobody is saying the other lives didn’t matter but when you use ‘All Lives Matter,‘ you are diminishing the voices of the people who are currently being attacked. Why people can’t understand this is beyond me.
Guess it just shows how selfish [those people] are.

EDIT: Not meant to be a personal attack on the members I quoted. Clarified.

 

[Binarymix]

It's just one day.
You can still listen to your own music.
There is no opt-out because that is precisely the problem — it is too easy to ignore what happening to other people if given the option.

It's one day, you'll live without music recommendations.

I don’t even subscribe to Apple Music, I’m just saying I don’t believe any company should force their views or beliefs on anyone. Especially using a paid service.