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sorry yeah thats the difference, i just mean within the app

im curious how they are going to handle this from a UI point of view. Can we download the whole lossless file or is it streaming? If we have the AAC downloaded, do we have to delete and download Lossless?

What if you want to listen to Lossless but keep an AAC hard copy on your laptop for travel?
Agreed, I still have tons of questions about this. June 1st can't come soon enough.
 
Like others, I buy the music I really love. But only As a hard copy. I have no problem streaming music, especially since the music market isn’t fractured like streaming video: we generally get access to everything without subscribing to multiple services. However, if you’re buying music on, say, iTunes, you still could lose access to that music at some point. If you truly want to “own” it to make sure it’s available forever and ever, then a hard copy is the only way to go.

Mind it is DRM free on iTunes so you can store your own backups. It was the biggest selling point when I was getting int music as I didn't like the idea of music on CD and having to buy albums for a single song.
 
Maybe the original poster isn't interested in new music? I've got zero interest in current artists and will never pay for a streaming service. I have iTunes Match, which I like very much, but cannot see what Apple Music offers me.
It’s not only new music, it’s all kinds of music. All I’m saying is if someone pays $100 or more to buy music there’s no reason not to get a streaming subscription. You plan to listen to the same exact songs the rest of your life and never any other songs?
 
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Any word on Spotify’s reaction to this latest development? Have they announced a lossless and/or Hi-Fi tier officially yet?
They simply have to do this. Amazon included lossless quality with no additional cost for all their customers starting from today.

So people who got lots of Apple equipment and speakers will use Apples streaming now and those who got echoes at home will use Amazons streaming.

Why should anyone pay more to get less quality? Just for the UI? The music is the same if lossless, the winners after the shift to lossless will be those with a speaker lineup and those who don't have this mus compete by lowering prices.

Top price is 10 dollar for lossless now, Amazon Prime subscribers get it for 8 dollar or less if they subscribe yearly.

Tidal, Spotify, Quboz and what else, they are in real trouble now.
 
So the band you listen too never put out new music? So far this year 5 band I like came out with new music or will in a few months.

I don't listen to bands, I listen to individual songs. If I have multiple from one band it could be as much a coincidence than anything else. I only make the mistake a couple times of trying to buy a album and ended up with the song I liked and a dozen others I need to skip.
 
It doesn't sell at that price. They can't even get rid of the inventory they have months after being discontinued.
I understand that. However, this announcement could have been used to help sell more HomePods. Why didn’t the wait a few months and see how they did after this announcement? They could have discontinued later, but I think more people would have considered a HomePod after today’s announcement. (And of course if they could have sold them for a little less, say $249.) But the timing is still odd to me. Maybe they’re going to announce something new, but why discontinue before that announcement?
 
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Apple Music’s Lossless tier starts at CD quality, which is 16 bit at 44.1 kHz (kilohertz), and goes up to 24 bit at 48 kHz and is playable natively on Apple devices. For the true audiophile, Apple Music also offers Hi-Resolution Lossless all the way up to 24 bit at 192 kHz. (1)
  1. Due to the large file sizes and bandwidth needed for Lossless and Hi-Res Lossless Audio, subscribers will need to opt in to the experience. Hi-Res Lossless also requires external equipment, such as a USB digital-to-analog converter (DAC).
 
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Why? If you already own every song you listen to. Why would you pay monthly to stream the same songs you own?
then you wasted a ton of money. streaming is much cheaper/better you can change as your tastes change without buying a ton of music. Now the interesting thing will be if you use the iTunes Match or whatever it is called, can you update your library to the newer versions? It worked with my old library (since most of it is deleted, time moves on), updated low bit rate songs for full bit rate on AAC. I guess time will tell
 
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Any word on Spotify’s reaction to this latest development? Have they announced a lossless and/or Hi-Fi tier officially yet?
They announced theirs 3 months ago.

 
Definitely leaning towards moving to Apple Music from Spotify now. Same price as Spotify is currently so I'll be paying the same but for a better quality service. No brainer for me.

The only music I now buy officially is WWE album's of unreleased music, just to help them push more unreleased music from their library out! The rest I stream.
 
It’s not only new music, it’s all kinds of music. All I’m saying is if someone pays $100 or more to buy music there’s no reason not to get a streaming subscription. You plan to listen to the same exact songs the rest of your life and never any other songs?

Not aimed at me. But I have added 7 songs in 20 years to my library. Why would I pay $100 a year? That's make those 7 songs cost $2000...
 
Some of us have been in the iTunes ecosystem since the beginning, and we amassed impressive collections of songs/albums purchased though the iTunes store back when we were syncing this music to iPods. We don't need to pay $9.99/month to listen to this music; we already paid for it. Also, some people do a substantial amount of listening where wifi may not be readily available (e.g., while traveling or enjoying nature).

I'm always surprised by people's inability to see beyond their own use case. An Apple Music subscription works for you; enjoy. But you shouldn't question the logic of people who don't want to pay additional money to access songs they'll never listen to just because they want to hear higher-quality versions of the songs they've already paid for.
I’m thinking way beyond my own use case, I think it’s the ones who pay over $100 per year on buying music who aren’t thinking outside of their own use case.

While I never had many iTunes songs, maybe around 100, I would have gotten rid of all of them by now anyways once streaming services came out. You can download all the music on streaming so WiFi isn’t an issue at all.
 
then you wasted a ton of money. streaming is much cheaper/better you can change as your tastes change without buying a ton of music. Now the interesting thing will be if you use the iTunes Match or whatever it is called, can you update your library to the newer versions? It worked with my old library (since most of it is deleted, time moves on), updated low bit rate songs for full bit rate on AAC. I guess time will tell

Wasted money? Let's nip this on in the bud. A song is 79p on the top end and there are 267 songs in my library which means excluding any discounts it cost me £210.93. If I had subscribed to a streaming service for that time it would have cost me £2,397.6.
 
While Apple moving to lossless 16/44 is great news ... my reply to Apple is ... "Welcome to 1985 sound quality". I will
stick with Qobuz. Apple lossless doesn't compare.

EDIT: "For the true audiophile, Apple Music also offers Hi-Resolution Lossless all the way up to 24 bit at 192 kHz."
How did I miss this?? !! Shame on me!

BRAVO Apple!
 
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Forgive me if I missed it, but have we figured out whether and how this “lossless” will work for wireless streaming? Has Apple said they are ditching AAC for ALAC and if so, if that simply a software update or will it require new hardware. I’m very confused at the wireless streaming portion of this. From what I can tell, I do not see any improvements to the current bluetooth codec. So nothing similar to LDAC or AptxHD. If that’s the case, this is kind of a disappointing announcement. Hopefully I am missing something.
 
So is standard lossless playable with non-apple headphones?

Not talking of the spacial audio thing
 
I don't listen to bands, I listen to individual songs. If I have multiple from one band it could be as much a coincidence than anything else. I only make the mistake a couple times of trying to buy a album and ended up with the song I liked and a dozen others I need to skip.
Bands make the songs…. So as long the band is together or the artist, they will probably make new music.

I have yet to meet a soul that will listen to music past a certain point, usually the decade that they were a teenager. Regardless, Beethoven isn't going to produce a new composition.
😂😂 really? You never met anyone who will? Well now you have. I may not like the bands out now, but the bands I do like are still making new music. There are some new bands I do like. I never met anyone who won’t listen to new stuff. Even my 70+ old mom does.
 
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