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Ok…. Clearly I was wrong to assume that people commenting on a streaming service post would either use a streaming service or continue to search and find new music for themselves.

I didn’t know people listen too the same few songs and basically nothing new over 20+ years.

The post is about the lossless audio and all the extra bells and whistles. The issue I and others have is that we want to upgrade our music but don't want to pay thousands on a streaming service for music we already own. $0.50 - $1.29 a song upgrade would be a-ok.
 
I get Apple Music isn’t for you, but you can’t expect the quality to change on stuff you bought just because Apple Music is upgrading music.

I am not expecting the quality to change for free. I was expecting to pay Apple money to upgrade like we did with the 128bit to 256bit+DRM free transition.
 
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Well pinch my nipples I’m excited for this. Hopefully it’s on the appletv for my surround sound
 
You must not have met many people in your life. What a ridiculous statement.
I have a neighbor and I can hear when he plays his music. It’s pretty much the same <40 songs over and over again. :)

I don’t find it surprising that there are folks like this. People use music in different ways. For some music is more of a structural support, an unmoving foundation. For others, music has tides, it ebbs and flows continuously through their lives. Fortunately for Apple and other streaming services, the millions of members in the latter group make streaming a viable business opportunity.
 
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I am not expecting the quality to change for free. I was expecting to pay Apple money to upgrade like we did with the 128bit to 256bit+DRM free transition.

I think the issue is that you want both DRM-free files and lossless despite lossless being a DRM-streaming only feature

cake & eat it too situation
 
At present the standard AirPods don’t support Spatial Audio, but this press release states they will be supported along with any H1 or W1 chip device. However I’m assuming “Spatial Audio with Dolby Atmos” is different to the current Spatial Audio for video, and doesn’t do any head tracking? Bit confusing.
 
I think the issue is that you want both DRM-free files and lossless despite lossless being a DRM-streaming only feature

cake & eat it too situation

It doesn't have to be DRM free and I am sorry if I gave that impression. All I want to do is re-buy 200-267 songs in the best format available.
 
A previous post mentioned that this is only for subscriptions. Our purchased music will remain as is, Apple seem not to want more money.
1-time purchase vs recurring payments...

Apple wants to be guaranteed the payments, hence why they are adding this feature to Apple Music and not extending it to the iTunes Store.

The same logic that Microsoft uses to sell Office 365: you can pay a monthly fee to get new features that are released on Office 365, or you can pay a 1-time fee and get a permanent license, but you won't be getting all of the new features that are released to Office 365, only a subset of the new features.
 
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It doesn't have to be DRM free and I am sorry if I gave that impression. All I want to do is re-buy 200-267 songs in the best format available.

right but it's still a hard copy scenario, when even Music subscribers dont get that (from what I understand)

besides, how would an acceptable upgrade work in your scenario - you pay for the DRM-free track, then pay to lock it in DRM at a higher quality and remove your old use rights?
 
The post is about the lossless audio and all the extra bells and whistles. The issue I and others have is that we want to upgrade our music but don't want to pay thousands on a streaming service for music we already own. $0.50 - $1.29 a song upgrade would be a-ok.
The post is about Apple Music streaming adding lossless audio, not iTunes adding lossless audio. And is there anything so far saying that you won’t be able to upgrade?
 
So if you prefer to own your music instead of rent you are SOL. It's such a pain to have to buy lossless music from Bandcamp, Beatport, 7Digital, etc. instead of iTunes Store.
 
Unless I am missing something, Apples answer to LDAC is spatial audio and Dolby atmos? To some this may be cool but for me this is a bummer.

I was hoping that Apple was finally going to up their wireless codec to support hi res like every android phone can do. Considering Apple declared war on wires years ago, it is odd that they are back to requiring wires for true lossless.
 
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It’s not only new music, it’s all kinds of music. All I’m saying is if someone pays $100 or more to buy music there’s no reason not to get a streaming subscription. You plan to listen to the same exact songs the rest of your life and never any other songs?
Fair enough - but they maybe want to spend the money on music they keep as opposed to music they rent
 
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At present the standard AirPods don’t support Spatial Audio, but this press release states they will be supported along with any H1 or W1 chip device. However I’m assuming “Spatial Audio with Dolby Atmos” is different to the current Spatial Audio for video, and doesn’t do any head tracking? Bit confusing.
That’s a good point and interesting distinction. I’m expecting you’re right and we’ll know for sure in June.
 
right but it's still a hard copy scenario, when even Music subscribers dont get that (from what I understand)

besides, how would an acceptable upgrade work in your scenario - you pay for the DRM-free track, then pay to lock it in DRM at a higher quality and remove your old use rights?

If it has to be DRM'd then you pay the £1.29 or even £2 per song to have it in your library. Your DRM free music reminds DRM free. Apple know which songs you have bought and can offer special upgrade pricing as they did in the past. There is demand for lossless music, lossless music has 'large' files that are better stored on your machine. Why do I want to re-download(stream) 267 songs to my computer 80 times a week?
 
The post is about Apple Music streaming adding lossless audio, not iTunes adding lossless audio. And is there anything so far saying that you won’t be able to upgrade?
Yes The Verge has confirmed with Apple that lossless is coming only for Apple Music streaming, not for purchased iTunes download which blows. I stream music but I also buy the music I like since I create edits, mix tapes, etc.
 
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No you don’t. As an Apple Music subscriber you can upload/match your music to your heart content.
The problem, and the reason I haven’t subscribed to Apple Music yet, is that all the music you match has DRM and when you return to iTunes Match alone, that music is no longer available. Whilst being only on iTunes Match ensures me to always have the matched music on my library. I think it works differently.
 
So if you prefer to own your music instead of rent you are SOL. It's such a pain to have to buy lossless music from Bandcamp, Beatport, 7Digital, etc. instead of iTunes Store.

From my own experience when you buy outside the iTunes Store you have a good chance that that lossless music you just bought doesn't work on your iPhone or iTunes.
 
Does anybody know if this will be supported on the web player so I can use it this on Windows desktop?
 
lossless music has 'large' files that are better stored on your machine. Why do I want to re-download(stream) 267 songs to my computer 80 times a week?

to save hard drive space

also i hope it'd play out of cache and not just re-stream literally every time
 
to save hard drive space

also i hope it'd play out of cache and not just re-stream literally every time

Storage is cheep but I can concede that is logical. As for a cache, that is unknown. And with Apple Music there is a appears to be a chance it'll try to play you non whitelisted music you haven't heard before.
 
The problem, and the reason I haven’t subscribed to Apple Music yet, is that all the music you match has DRM and when you return to iTunes Match alone, that music is no longer available. Whilst being only on iTunes Match ensures me to always have the matched music on my library. I think it works differently.
Really it works just the same. iTunes Match is for you to have your music wherever you want. Apple Music also allow you to have YOUR music wherever you want. In reality they are the same thing. You didn’t lose the “matching function” of iTunes Match, only that the songs you matched now has DRM. But what difference does it make? Nothing because you will be able to listen to it just the same.

Don't think of any of these services as your local library. For either service you still need to have a master of your library stored somewhere else.
 
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