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Why you need manually fix the Khz?
I use dac from some years (My first was the topping 50 and now I use Smsl ) and I never see the Mac change automatically the khz (I used Tidal and Amazon HD hifi)

Go into Tidal settings and turn on exclusive mode and select your DAC. It sounds MUCH better and will now manage your sample rate for you. Amazon is, unfortunately, trash on all platforms, even iOS, so can't help there. I like Tidal a lot, but it is expensive for what you get. Qobuz is another great option.
 
What artists? Most of my library only has lossless.
I just go to Spatial Audio section in Apple Music there are different genre Apple curated.
 

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Setting my devices to stream lossless and hearing my library is amazing. Both my AirPods Pro and Max sound great. Nice wide sound stage
 
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Can recommend the audio quest dragonfly range (I don't work for them!). Will need the lightning to USB A dongle though.
Don't go for Dragonflies: they max out at 96kHz. There are already quite a few hi-res 192kHz files on Apple Music, but Dragonflies cannot play at sampling rates higher than 96kHz, unless it's MQA. It seems that the entire Dragonfly lineup targets the MQA format adopted by Tidal, but MQA is never going to be on Apple Music.
 
Wow. The experience is amazing in surround speakers. I sat down with my lazy-person’s surround speakers JBL Bar 5.1 and it’s just incredible with Dolby Atmos. The speakers don’t support Atmos but the incredible surround mix is still there. Try REM’s “Drive”. It’s like you’re sitting in the middle of a room where they’re playing around you. Acoustic guitar to the left in space, lead vocals to the front, the electric guitars and keyboards fill the space behind you. Just amazing. It feels “off balance” at first but later in the song you hear the right fill in with those keyboard and electric guitars and a shaker. All of the instruments are so clear. Again, amazing. SOLD.
I will agree, Drive is quite impressive. Nightswimming on the same album is just amazing in Atmos. I’ve also been blown away with the classical music offerings.
 
Tidal is not actually lossless at any level when it comes to Master files. I think their Hifi-only files are lossless.

EDIT: reference:

Let's not turn it into another MQA debate, since MQA is high resolution and, besides, every album available as MQA is also available as non-MQA true lossless (at least in my experience). If you are suspicious of MQA or don't like it, there is a non-MQA lossless version.

By the way, I'm not advocating for Tidal here. My plan is to ditch Tidal as soon as Apple Music is updates all its catalog to lossless. For now, it's 50%-50% for albums in my library (classical).
 
Yeah it’s all set up correctly, just not on “always on” but on automatic. Because it should recognise I am listening on AirPods Pro.

if I go in the control center and disable and re enable spatial audio I don’t hear any difference at all.

I’m hearing it now but difference depends on song I guess. Listened to Kenny Rogers gambler off that spatial playlist. In stereo I hear the guitar easily left and right. In spatial it’s not and more like coming from middle.

Anyways. I much preferred the stereo or original. Pretty sure I’ll keep Dolby option off. No point in lossless for me with bt headphones. Haven’t looked at atv and sound system yet.
 
I know that but there is a difference. My ears compared it to Spotify and Amazon HD. Sounds good to me

That still doesn’t mean much. Need to compare to reg Apple Music not Amazon or Spotify. It shouldn’t be different since it’s doing nothing different over bt.
 
I would say the Spatial Audio is an improvement on AirPods Pro. Not game changing. Spatial Audio on my Bose 700 seems to make it worse. Muddled a lot of tracks. I possibly notice a small improvement in Lossless when my Bose 700 are hardwired. Also have a Sonos Beam. Lossless sounds good. I assume I'm receiving Lossless from the Apple tv 4K from the music app. Overall a mixed bag for me and my devices. Expected a better performance of Atmos. I would expect to notice a bigger difference on an Atmos sound bar or other speaker system.
 
Hope it works for you as well now!
Nope, not on my phone. On iPad it does work.

On iPhone, it just stops streaming every time at 15sec. Scrolling past that point it might work but still freezes. And at the same time, I can feel how my phone heats up. Definitely a some sort of bug or glitch.
 
On the Mac how can you tell the format? I have Atmos set to auto and streaming to lossless. Unless I do a Get Info and see under File what the format for a track is.
 
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On the Mac how can you tell the format? I have Atmos set to auto and streaming to lossless. Unless I do a Get Info and see under File what the format for a track is.
in the currently playing box, you'll see an Icon in the top right of the box. (you're able to click on it for info) For either lossless or Atmos. I've tried the some of the songs in the Spatial playlists and the logos don't show. Other songs outside those playlists they do. Weird.
 
iPhone 12... playing Metallica's Black Album loud and clear lossless on airpods pro. 🤟 Clear difference when playing the same from and old iPad that is not getting (yet?) the update

I haven’t had a chance to do comparisons myself, but does anyone know how lossless could possibly sound better on AirPods? As far as I know, no AirPods support ALAC (Apple Lossless Audio Codec), so I wonder what is happening when you play a lossless song on AirPods. Either Apple doesn’t use lossless at all and falls back on the 256 Kbps AAC High Quality stream and the differences being heard are just placebo or the Dolby Atmos and Spatial Audio effects, or maybe Apple devices re-encode the ALAC lossless to AAC on the fly, but re-encode to a higher bitrate than the standard AAC High Quality streams.
 
I am running the iOS 15 Beta on my backup 11 Pro Max so I can play "Lossless" content to my HomePod Mini's and can absolutely tell the difference.

So anyone running the iOS 15 Beta, that has two HomePod Mini's (maybe it will work with one?) should turn it on and try it. For those that do not how to enable it, here are the steps.

Steps are as follows:

1. Go into the Home App.
2. Click on the House icon in the top left.
3. Click on Home Settings.
4. Tap on your name.
5. Tap on Apple Music
6. Turn on Lossless Audio.
7. Enjoy Lossless on your HomePod Mini's!

Please, will some other people tell me if they can hear the difference? Thanks in advance.

:apple:
 
for Lossless you need wired headphones/speakers, and preferably a nice DAC and amp.

For Atmos/Spatial Audio, AirPods Pro/Max are optimized for it, but you can change the setting to Always on to use it on any headphones/speakers, wired or wireless.
In theory, wireless AirPlay speakers should work too as AirPlay supports ALAC.
 
No. You need a DAC.

What do you mean? Lightning headphones and Lightning to 3.5 mm adapters contain DACs. They aren’t high quality DACs, but I have yet to see definitive proof that they wouldn’t benefit from lossless.
 
iPhone 12... playing Metallica's Black Album loud and clear lossless on airpods pro. 🤟 Clear difference when playing the same from and old iPad that is not getting (yet?) the update
AirPods Pro cannot play lossless because bluetooth does not support lossless. But sounds like you are having fun, and that's what matters.
 
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I haven’t had a chance to do comparisons myself, but does anyone know how lossless could possibly sound better on AirPods? As far as I know, no AirPods support ALAC (Apple Lossless Audio Codec), so I wonder what is happening when you play a lossless song on AirPods. Either Apple doesn’t use lossless at all and falls back on the 256 Kbps AAC High Quality stream and the differences being heard are just placebo or the Dolby Atmos and Spatial Audio effects, or maybe Apple devices re-encode the ALAC lossless to AAC on the fly, but re-encode to a higher bitrate than the standard AAC High Quality streams.
*Sorry, I quoted the wrong person. I meant to quote the person you quoted.*

I feel the same as you do, as in I can hear a difference on my AirPods Pro listening to "Lossless" albums.

From what I have read from many people claiming to know what they are talking about when it comes to the technical stuff with music, is that you will hear a difference, just obviously not even close to 100% Lossless due to the bluetooth limitations.

Then obviously I have read the people that say you will hear zero difference.

Like I said, I truly believe I can hear a difference. I was actually listening to some Metallica myself and they sound incredible, S&M2 for example. Also, Meatloaf's "I'd Do Anything For Love (But Not That)" sounds absolutely amazing, especially the intro, as I said in a way earlier post on this thread, I think it is the best I have heard yet.

So I am with the people saying you can tell a difference! There has been no definitive answer, which I would love one, however, until there is...I am hearing a great difference.

:apple:
 
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iPhone 12... playing Metallica's Black Album loud and clear lossless on airpods pro. 🤟 Clear difference when playing the same from and old iPad that is not getting (yet?) the update

I feel the same as you do, as in I can hear a difference on my AirPods Pro listening to "Lossless" albums.

From what I have read from many people claiming to know what they are talking about when it comes to the technical stuff with music, is that you will hear a difference, just obviously not even close to 100% Lossless due to the bluetooth limitations.

Then obviously I have read the people that say you will hear zero difference.

Like I said, I truly believe I can hear a difference. I was actually listening to some Metallica myself and they sound incredible, S&M2 for example. Also, Meatloaf's "I'd Do Anything For Love (But Not That)" sounds absolutely amazing, especially the intro, as I said in a way earlier post on this thread, I think it is the best I have heard yet.

So I am with the people saying you can tell a difference! There has been no definitive answer, which I would love one, however, until there is...I am hearing a great difference.

:apple:
 
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