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Feel free to prove why Spotify also charges .99 in those countries ;)
They do in Switzerland, I just checked. Perhaps this works for you too: https://www.spotify.com/ch-de/.

No idea why though. Crunchyroll doesn't charge for their trial period. Nor Tidal.
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Remember when you could buy music, and you *actually owned it*. Those were the days.
You actually own the media, not the music, which was licensed to you. Music ownership rights are very convoluted - between the composer, the performer, whoever wrote the lyrics, the producer, it's often divided in some complicated way. Sometimes a producer buys the rights to a song or an album and it's only some specific performance.
 
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Apple's reason better be something technical in nature or due to the local law in those countries, rather than literal penny pinching.
Wow... why would "literal penny penching" even be happening in these countries? First of all... is Tim Cook sitting at a desk all day with rolls of pennies and pinching them? Why? Another thing... why is he pinching pennies? None of these countries use USD for currency. Why would pennies be involved at all?
 
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Wow... why would "literal penny penching" even be happening in these countries? First of all... is Tim Cook sitting at a desk all day with rolls of pennies and pinching them? Why? Another thing... why is he pinching pennies? None of these countries use USD for currency. Why would pennies be involved at all?

The Dollar uses cents just like the Euro does, both are informally referred to as 'pennies'.
 
You have no explanation either other than blind hatred of just about anything Apple does. So of course to you it's just greed.

Ha ha ha kettle pot. The irony

You are in no position to accuse someone of "blind" following. I spent more on apple gear than you do.

Nice work avoiding the question and making it personal. Blind .....lol
 
Trial should be free. Three months was quite a nice way to hook people in. 99c is going to dissuade many not to bother.
 
Just another reason not to sign up to Apple Music
Let me see if I understand you correctly. Not having a three months trial for free, but for $0.99, is a reason not to pay $99 a year for Apple Music? Do you come from some third world country where paying $0.99 might be a hardship? Sounds like it.
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I'm surprised Apple didn't cover the spread as a way to entice people.
Apple covers the $29 between the ordinary price of $29.99 for three months and $0.99 for the trial.
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The reason for the expensive new macs and the payed trial is because Tim Cook is a loser, if I had the power to fire him I would look him right in that ugly face and say "YOU ARE FIRED".
Yeah, you would be the genius who fires the man who turned Apple from a $400bn company to a $800bn company.
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Are you rich? Are you oblivious?
You will find that Michael Goff is indeed one of those exceptionally rich people who can afford to pay $0.99 out of their pocket. Michael, you should be ashamed to show off how much cash you have. Not everyone here has $0.99 to spare. For some people it means their children will go without bread or dampfnudeln for weeks.
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Is it possible people were changing Apple ID's every 3 months? I'm interested to know why they revoked it, I bet they got tons of people hooked despite not initially caring all that much. Once you start to build a library the chance of you going elsewhere diminishes greatly.
A totally different possibility: Lots of people signed up for the free trial accidentally and never used it, letting it run out. And then when they want to _really_ do a trial, they can't anymore and get annoyed. If you have to pay $0.99, I think it will be very unlikely that you sign up by mistake.
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This kind of move by Apple sounds very familiar to the Airport Extreme Wireless N upgrade a few years back.

You had to pay Apple 1$ to enable Wireless N on your Airport Extreme router... They claimed it was required for accounting reasons.

And that was for some bizarre Sarbanes-Oxley reason actually correct. When you buy a Mac, Apple has to put away some money for warranty, upgrades to fix existing problems, and so on. They didn't put money away for "adding brand new functionality", so giving this new functionality for free would have created immense legal problems. Tax laws can be bizarre. And if you were not willing to pay $1 for this then clearly you didn't need it.
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I don't remember apple giving people macs or idevices away for free ..... and Apple Music does not work on iPods....
Sorry, never tried, but doesn't it? Not even on WiFi?
 
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Of course it is. It's likely country regulatory-based. Still, people will jump on the tiny whinefest bandwagon before understanding the underlying reason.
Sure, Switzerland and Australia always coordiante their laws, as they're almost neighbors :)
Forget it.
 
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It works on our 6 Gen iPod Touch, but not our older Touch that cannot upgrade to the latest IOS.
Maybe the 7 Gen iPod Nano can run it? But as far as I can see, not the rest of the iPod's as they don't use IOS
 
I love my huge music collection of music that I have collected over the years. No streaming ... just the stuff I like.

I wonder if one day Apple will ban media that was not purchased via iTunes store? (e.g. all ripped stuff no longer will play). I think they would like to do this but the outcry would be too much. At one point though, since CDs and DVDs are on their way out, a new "all digital" generation will not even notice. Hopefully by then I'll be gone....

I may not be remembering this correctly but didn't Apple try blocking music not purchased from iTunes from the early iPods?
 
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If you plan to use the service you pay $9.99 each month, so $0.99 for a trial is of course not a big deal.
But when it comes to trial the difference between a completely free service and a small fee is huge. Many people just don't want to pay for a trial, or for a service, not even a trivial amount of money.
I still have to activate the 3 months trial that came with my BeatsX, instead of making people pay for the trial they could include it with their products, not only headphones.
 
Sure, Switzerland and Australia always coordiante their laws, as they're almost neighbors :)
Forget it.

Who said anything (other than you) about coordination? Or that the only reason relates to laws? Could very well have to do with restrictions imposed by the music labels.

Still, feel free to jump/stay on the whinewagon without supporting facts.
 
This has nothing to do with laws and everything with appreciation for something that you paid a token amount for versus something somebody threw at you for free.
 
You guys are still whining about 99¢?

Next thing you know you'll all be whining that although McDonalds gives you free refills, the cup costs a dollar.
 
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/5/21/15672046/tech-hardware-physical-love

I know this isn't about Apple Music needing more sales. Jimmy seems to think it needs video content. But I'm thinking like the Verge here and saying Apple needs an apple music device dedicated to it. Apple music Watch comes to mind with matching airpods. You could say iphones and macs already do this but the app isn't a dedicated one. Apple Music is just a service tacked on in itunes or overall music app.

Apple is about software and designing hardware around it. So design some hardware around apple music?
 
Let me see if I understand you correctly. Not having a three months trial for free, but for $0.99, is a reason not to pay $99 a year for Apple Music? Do you come from some third world country where paying $0.99 might be a hardship? Sounds like it.
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Apple covers the $29 between the ordinary price of $29.99 for three months and $0.99 for the trial.
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Yeah, you would be the genius who fires the man who turned Apple from a $400bn company to a $800bn company.
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You will find that Michael Goff is indeed one of those exceptionally rich people who can afford to pay $0.99 out of their pocket. Michael, you should be ashamed to show off how much cash you have. Not everyone here has $0.99 to spare. For some people it means their children will go without bread or dampfnudeln for weeks.
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A totally different possibility: Lots of people signed up for the free trial accidentally and never used it, letting it run out. And then when they want to _really_ do a trial, they can't anymore and get annoyed. If you have to pay $0.99, I think it will be very unlikely that you sign up by mistake.
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And that was for some bizarre Sarbanes-Oxley reason actually correct. When you buy a Mac, Apple has to put away some money for warranty, upgrades to fix existing problems, and so on. They didn't put money away for "adding brand new functionality", so giving this new functionality for free would have created immense legal problems. Tax laws can be bizarre. And if you were not willing to pay $1 for this then clearly you didn't need it.
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Sorry, never tried, but doesn't it? Not even on WiFi?

I am ashamed for my words and deeds, good sir.
 
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/5/21/15672046/tech-hardware-physical-love

I know this isn't about Apple Music needing more sales. Jimmy seems to think it needs video content. But I'm thinking like the Verge here and saying Apple needs an apple music device dedicated to it. Apple music Watch comes to mind with matching airpods. You could say iphones and macs already do this but the app isn't a dedicated one. Apple Music is just a service tacked on in itunes or overall music app.

Apple is about software and designing hardware around it. So design some hardware around apple music?

I don't think that would be a good idea, because knowing Apple, if they did develop such a device, they would probably make other services from their competitors incompatible in some way. I may be wrong, but I have that feeling. Maybe the Spotify app would be "incompatible" or who knows?
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No. But even I know there's a huge leap between the numbers you're throwing out. Stop acting entitled to free stuff.

I can't help myself. I've become very sensitive to companies nickel and diming me, to the point that even when a company does it fairly, I still get a little irritated because I wonder what's next and from who? Cable companies, wireless companies (I'm with T-Mo so I'm good, relatively speaking), healthcare, airlines, car insurance, food, Apple...it makes your wallet lighter all the time. 99 cents is nothing, but everything else is something. Much ado about nothing I guess when it comes to this.
 
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I don't think that would be a good idea, because knowing Apple, if they did develop such a device, they would probably make other services from their competitors incompatible in some way. I may be wrong, but I have that feeling. Maybe the Spotify app would be "incompatible" or who knows?
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I can't help myself. I've become very sensitive to companies nickel and diming me, to the point that even when a company does it fairly, I still get a little irritated because I wonder what's next and from who? Cable companies, wireless companies (I'm with T-Mo so I'm good, relatively speaking), healthcare, airlines, car insurance, food, Apple...it makes your wallet lighter all the time. 99 cents is nothing, but everything else is something. Much ado about nothing I guess when it comes to this.

I know where the worry comes from, but you don't want to worry your way to a heart attack. Stress is a killer.
 
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Of course it is. It's likely country regulatory-based. Still, people will jump on the tiny whinefest bandwagon before understanding the underlying reason.

Cause jumping up and down making up convenient theories such as regulatory is okay.....geez there is some hypocrisy on this site.

Just checked and there are dozens and dozens companies in Australia breaking this made up regulatory excuse .... including Tidal....same industry .

Maybe just maybe its greed...... nah..... it's the Oceania / Swiss / Spanish pact... a Newley formed PACT to force Apple to make millions cause people in those countries have to be charged....led by Australia , who decided to get involved in EU politics cause they are now part of Eurovision.

It's all cause of Eurovision !!!!!
 
From Colombia here, 3-month trial still working. And plans for Apple Music are $1 less than in the US, just noticed that today. Odd.
 
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