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Apple Must Let Dating Apps Offer Alternative Payment Methods in App Store, Dutch Regulator Says
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Apple is a shareholder value driven company that seeks to grow not shrink. It won’t behave like a turned down teenager and stop its business there.
Yep entitlement culture at its finest, and shame on governments for overreaching like this. It's ridiculous.
It’s funny how people who rail about “monopolies” seem to be fine with government monopoly power.
But, of course, governments merely start wars, imprison people, torture people, cause famines, steal private property. They aren’t really evil, like corporations who produce products and services that make people’s lives better.
In the digital space none of the companies that rely mostly on Apple technology for their Apps would exist as they are without access to the billion apple customers apple offers them. Apple markets heavily to drive traffic to their store and the developers get the results for almost nothing. They would pay a higher percentage and have more expenses on other platforms like consoles with fewer customers.
They could go the other way… leave 30% for the creator (like other digital platforms…) - True devils advocate here…
The AppStore purchase system has been very inconsistent to me …sometimes charges take a week or 2 before they charge and at the time of purchase taxes used to be hidden costs.
I concur.
Rebutal, I want a unified payment system for everything. Patent pending.
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Personally having experienced other payment methods I trust Apple. Most companies are not honest. They play games. Make it hard to cancel, etc. Apple is trusted. Everything is transparent.
They already do via special arrangements made between those vendors and Apple. It hasn’t been a level playing field in years.
The report a problem and get your money back function… Apple will handle that for me. Who will guarantee that outside the AppStore?
I might go as far as to say, and I have been downvoted for a similar analogy, that forcing anyone to do anything (and in regards of work and how to work) especially when it’s working mostly fine has a name, and it’s worse than just the usual socialism v communism v capitalism.
A company has the right to offer or deny services, some business won’t accept kids or adults or pets or not do a specific job in a way they don’t usually do it (i.e at a specific price tag or set of rules or fees).
We are talking here that many governments are literally controlling the price, store front, backend, and more of Apple’s business… instead of letting the market decide.
Is the 30% fee too much? Developers would probably not develop for iOS and only keep it android and web browsers experience or the users wouldn’t be ok with it and not sign up there… sounds to me that it was sound business for everybody involved.
Also, the hypocrisy, don’t know about the Dutch but wouldn’t be surprised if it is more universal than not:
I’m currently in the US for vacations and Rogers (Canadian telecom) is charging me $10 a day for roaming. Many of the big telecoms there happen to charge $10 a day. This is highway robbery yet the freaking actual-socialist Canadian government got to dance with them instead of the people.
What did I do after the few surprise charges? Got a t-mobile eSIM for 30 days text-voice-data plan for $25 (or the equivalent of the price price 2.5 days of roaming).
I had to pay $150 for a traveling COVID test in Canada towards the US, to return FROM the US it’s either free or like $8 at a CVS.
This happens with almost everything really, forgive me if with the experience I have had I arrive to the conclusion that these measures are only meant to squeeze out as much cash as possible because there’s a potential cash prize at the end of it… companies gouging people at ~$65 a month where elsewhere on the neighboring country it’s less than $20 a month? Nah, that’s fine, not important. Can the neighboring companies set up shop here then? Nope, they can’t.
“But hey, let’s start coming up with fees if decades old of working business don’t adapt to just freshly made rule changes quick enough”
My post is all over the place, to finalize, sure apple doesn’t need to be defended by us but I’ll be darned, this convenient barrage of random handpicking in general (and none of other equivalents) bothers me to no end.
Match group, the devs behind dating apps like Tinder, are making ~$6 billion in profit every year.you think a lot of devs are making millions??
You might want to look up intellectual property and socialism.
It’s simply shocking to see so many, so voraciously, lining up to defend a 2 trillion dollar company
This really has turned into a massive cult
This really has turned into a massive cult
This would take off a lot of the regulatory pressure.
Dating apps do even less to protect their users from fraud and fake accounts than Facebook. In some cases they deliberately suggest interacting with fake accounts just to keep users addicted.
It sounds like Apple needs developers as much as developers need Apple. They both benefit each other, right?
Ok fine... new deal... 50% for Apple and 50% for developers! Let's make it an equal partnership!!!
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Apple has a number of anti competitive policies (like the one described in this specific article). This might be acceptable and accepted in the United States, but it is not in Europe. In this case the Dutch reacted, at some point other larger countries will, and eventually the EU commission will intervene. Will apple pull out from the EU? Sure they can, but good luck with that: the stock price would tank as it’s the largest market area in the world.
The part I don't understand is why only the dating apps.
For the rest there can be different opinions about competition regulation, but that's the way Netherland sees it, so be it for Netherland.
For the rest there can be different opinions about competition regulation, but that's the way Netherland sees it, so be it for Netherland.
Well isn't that exactly what the Macrumors Apple supporter wants? If the court does not work for Apple, then there shall be no iPhone in the Netherlands. The Dutch does not deserve to use Apple.