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All of this good news must mean G5 PBs!!!!!!
All these products look sweet, I can't wait to try them eventually! I wish I had an Xserve cluster to try out XSan.
All these products look sweet, I can't wait to try them eventually! I wish I had an Xserve cluster to try out XSan.
I wonder how much Motion will go for in educational pricing. Final Cut Express is $299 retail and $149 educational so I'm hoping Motion would be priced the same way. $150 for an After Effects-like program isn't bad at all.
As an ex Adobe employee this will undoubtedly irk many in the three A towers in San Jose. However, in 2003 still close to 50% of all the revenue for their the Adobe Creative Suite, which at the time was the publishing and design bundles ($999 street) was from the Mac platform. For that reason Adobe will not stop making Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat and certainly not InDesign while their focus is to snuff Quark from the face of the earth (which I hope they do, and good effing riddance). This is going to sting at Adobe HQ. That bad news is, however, they may treat Apple more and more like second class citizens, delay releases of Mac versions of Apps after peecee versions, or not optimize the code as well as they could/should, and that would be a major disappointment, but it's hypothetical. Now if Apple decided to make a robust professional page layout and photo (raster) manipulation tool, then things could get very dicey. If you think about it, M$ has had a craptacular photo manipulation tool out for a while now (blanking on it's name) and that isn't making the professional peecee lusers (I almost said designers, but no designer is using a peecee, or they're not a really a designer) is using Microshaft crap to design with. Apple would be rather foolish to try to just burn that bridge, and it could burn, or blow up from Adobe, not pretty. Same goes for M$ Orface, yeah it sucks that it's so popular, but with Orface I know a lot of companies would drop Macs altogether, sure it's sleeping with the very ugly enemy, but sometimes we have to do what we have to do.
Xsan - truly a thing of beauty!
Having done a quick run through of the Xsan mini-site, I can't help but admit to feeling a little twinge of excitement.
Consider the following:-
Now, I've just done a quick shopping list and 42TB of fully tricked-out storage costs around $200,000 including two 16 port FC-SW switches and two (well-specced dual-processor Xserve) Xsan metadata controllers.
I challenge anyone to go and beat that by a factor of two or three. I know how much that costs to implement as an IBM Faststor product, and it's horrific.
If Apple can't use this to prise the enterprise open again, then something is wrong, either with their salespeople or the enterprise buyers.
Having done a quick run through of the Xsan mini-site, I can't help but admit to feeling a little twinge of excitement.
Consider the following:-
- A maximum volume size of 16TB, but no mention on how many volumes. Even if the limit were relatively low (16?), you could have a SAN of 256TB.
- The ability to 'stripe' data across multiple Xserve RAID units: in other words, one RAID unit goes down, who cares?
- HSM capability through a pre-defined relationship with ADIC (who are currently my flavour du jour for tape libraries)
Now, I've just done a quick shopping list and 42TB of fully tricked-out storage costs around $200,000 including two 16 port FC-SW switches and two (well-specced dual-processor Xserve) Xsan metadata controllers.
I challenge anyone to go and beat that by a factor of two or three. I know how much that costs to implement as an IBM Faststor product, and it's horrific.
If Apple can't use this to prise the enterprise open again, then something is wrong, either with their salespeople or the enterprise buyers.
complaining
The mac community is really whack. First people complain when we dont know whats going on. Then when Apple tells us whats going on and when stuff is coming out we complain that they should wait until they have the product. Make up your minds people. Its an extreme shame apple products are selling BETTER than they expect and we have to wait. It stinks when the original date slips but realize that holding a large amount of inventory is bad. So which is better to have a road map of everything they're doing in apple labs so microsoft can steal the ideas or Dell or anyone else or that they keep things a secret and announce them when they're ready or about ready. and people turn and go oh thats an interesting direction too bad apple has been ahead of the game by 6 months. You cant please all the people all the time but it seems that when we get things one way people complain then apple does it the other way and they still complain. If you want crappy products that are rushed out because Mr. Dell said they would be releasing the new product on this day even though that day is about 3 weeks to early because intel cant get them darn chips past 3.4 ghz. or when the product is good and ready it gets announced they take orders and ship when its ready. ARG people are stupid.
LFrascogna said:
The mac community is really whack. First people complain when we dont know whats going on. Then when Apple tells us whats going on and when stuff is coming out we complain that they should wait until they have the product. Make up your minds people. Its an extreme shame apple products are selling BETTER than they expect and we have to wait. It stinks when the original date slips but realize that holding a large amount of inventory is bad. So which is better to have a road map of everything they're doing in apple labs so microsoft can steal the ideas or Dell or anyone else or that they keep things a secret and announce them when they're ready or about ready. and people turn and go oh thats an interesting direction too bad apple has been ahead of the game by 6 months. You cant please all the people all the time but it seems that when we get things one way people complain then apple does it the other way and they still complain. If you want crappy products that are rushed out because Mr. Dell said they would be releasing the new product on this day even though that day is about 3 weeks to early because intel cant get them darn chips past 3.4 ghz. or when the product is good and ready it gets announced they take orders and ship when its ready. ARG people are stupid.
MCCFR said:
the Xsan sounds soooo cool! perfect for corp and enterprise. i hope apple can crack this market again.
Chaszmyr said:
You know, with all of the other 'lookalike' Adobe apps Apple is making nowadays, I wouldnt be suprised if they come out with an Apple version called iDarkroom or something...wouldnt be such a bad thing.
cc bcc: No, Apple isnt god, but niether is Adobe. Photoshop is nice and everything but c'mon. It isnt as revolutionary as it used to be. Its just a image manipulator for cryin out loud.
agreenster: Why has nobody got close to PS' capabilities? (Photopaint, GIMP, Fireworks, Paint Shop Pro, MS Paint etc.) It would require a huge amount of resources from Apple, and I doubt that a lot of people would switch from PS if something did come out.
(I was really getting annoyed by all those posts about how superiour Apple is. Also, this threat is about some very nice Apple applications. Count how many times the word "powerbook G5" was used in reactions. )
etc.) It would require a huge amount of resources from Apple, and I doubt that a lot of people would switch from PS if something did come out.(I was really getting annoyed by all those posts about how superiour Apple is. Also, this threat is about some very nice Apple applications. Count how many times the word "powerbook G5" was used in reactions.
)Typo!?
I know this is a really minor issue that doesn't affect the comprehensibility of the Motion page on apple's website, but in the side bar it says:
I know this is a really minor issue that doesn't affect the comprehensibility of the Motion page on apple's website, but in the side bar it says:
'Tis too bad, for it makes the site appear somewhat unprofessional even though it looks awesome in every other respect. The price on motion, I believe, will make it a very popular product. Now, if you will excuse me, I have to get back to work on an english research project
egsaxy said:The mac community is really whack. First people complain when we dont know whats going on. Then when Apple tells us whats going on and when stuff is coming out we complain that they should wait until they have the product. Make up your minds people. Its an extreme shame apple products are selling BETTER than they expect and we have to wait. It stinks when the original date slips but realize that holding a large amount of inventory is bad. So which is better to have a road map of everything they're doing in apple labs so microsoft can steal the ideas or Dell or anyone else or that they keep things a secret and announce them when they're ready or about ready. and people turn and go oh thats an interesting direction too bad apple has been ahead of the game by 6 months. You cant please all the people all the time but it seems that when we get things one way people complain then apple does it the other way and they still complain. If you want crappy products that are rushed out because Mr. Dell said they would be releasing the new product on this day even though that day is about 3 weeks to early because intel cant get them darn chips past 3.4 ghz. or when the product is good and ready it gets announced they take orders and ship when its ready. ARG people are stupid.
lighten up already! no one is exactly the same! there are ppl who feel both ways about what you talked about. same as there are ppl who prefer (ugh) win to mac, altho that is decreasing.
I don't know what the deal is. Everyone is so afraid of Adobe leavind Apple if Apple releases a photo editing app themselves. Big companies like Adobe DON'T hold grudges, they can't afford too. Adobe online dropped Premiere for Mac because no one bought it because Final Cut Pro was better. If Apple relases a photo editing tool and it's better, who cares about PS. So far, all of these apps have had support for other programs, so what's the big deal?
The market decides what sells, not companies like Apple of Adobe.
P-Worm
The market decides what sells, not companies like Apple of Adobe.
P-Worm
Something stirring at ATI.
Hi.
There's something stirring at ATI. Their website frontpage (www.ati.com) has a headline "get ready to Xperience it". When you click the headline you get a popup with the cryptic message "but not just yet... be the first to know". You sumbit your name an email address on a form and are basically told to wait for the news. This may or may not have to do with their new Mobility Radeon 9700 cards. Makes you wonder, eh?
Hi.
There's something stirring at ATI. Their website frontpage (www.ati.com) has a headline "get ready to Xperience it". When you click the headline you get a popup with the cryptic message "but not just yet... be the first to know". You sumbit your name an email address on a form and are basically told to wait for the news. This may or may not have to do with their new Mobility Radeon 9700 cards. Makes you wonder, eh?
5 Updates To Final Cut Pro Appear In Software Update
5 Updates To Final Cut Pro Appear In Software Update:
Cinema Tools 2.2
Compressor 1.2
Final Cut Pro HD
LiveType 1.2 for Final Cut Pro HD
Pro Application Support 2.0
Now all that remains for low end HDDV compatability is still a third party plug in from St. Louis' MPEG ENCODER PIONEER Heuris Software
HEURIS
1136 Washington Ave, 7th Floor
St. Louis, Missouri, USA 63101
314.534.1514
5 Updates To Final Cut Pro Appear In Software Update:
Cinema Tools 2.2
Compressor 1.2
Final Cut Pro HD
LiveType 1.2 for Final Cut Pro HD
Pro Application Support 2.0
Now all that remains for low end HDDV compatability is still a third party plug in from St. Louis' MPEG ENCODER PIONEER Heuris Software
HEURIS
1136 Washington Ave, 7th Floor
St. Louis, Missouri, USA 63101
314.534.1514
RJWP said:
Mostly likely for their launch of the R420PRO, aka X800PRO
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15377
cc bcc said:agreenster: Why has nobody got close to PS' capabilities? (Photopaint, GIMP, Fireworks, Paint Shop Pro, MS Paint
You could have said the exact same thing about Final Cut Pro. "No one will buy it! Adobe/AVID are veterans here! Apple's a fool to get into the market." But look where apple stands on the video front now. They might not be #1, but they are turning some heads. I say if Apple can make a PS killer, let them do it. Competition isn't a bad thing.
P-Worm
You Are Correct Sir!
I used my zoom to look carefully and you are right. It's an aluminum frame with different stand.invaLPsion said:
RJWP said:
It's probably the new R420 based lineup of graphics cards, ie: ATI's next generation after the Radeon 9600/9800. As for the Radeon 9700 mobility, a friend of mine has already ordered a Dell Inspiron with a 9700 mobility in it...it should be here in a few days, so I doubt ATI would be generating a lot of hype about a mobile chipset which is already shipping in large quantities and has been doing so for a while.
why must i be punished for actually supporting the company...
Yet again, I am punished for being a good customer and paying for my software as opposed to pirating it like most other students....
First with FCP 2, now with DVD SP 2, they announce a new version ONE WEEK after I paid for v2, so now I don't officially qualify for the up to date program....
WTF!!!!!!!!
this sucks
is it worth calling apple and bitching them out to see if they will cut me a deal??
Yet again, I am punished for being a good customer and paying for my software as opposed to pirating it like most other students....
First with FCP 2, now with DVD SP 2, they announce a new version ONE WEEK after I paid for v2, so now I don't officially qualify for the up to date program....
WTF!!!!!!!!
this sucks
is it worth calling apple and bitching them out to see if they will cut me a deal??
wbrowne1 said:Yet again, I am punished for being a good customer and paying for my software as opposed to pirating it like most other students....
First with FCP 2, now with DVD SP 2, they announce a new version ONE WEEK after I paid for v2, so now I don't officially qualify for the up to date program....
WTF!!!!!!!!
this sucks
is it worth calling apple and bitching them out to see if they will cut me a deal??
I'd say... Try it... Can't hurt...
Multimedia said:
There is a quote on the FCP-HD website that says Apple is dedicated to coming out with a codec for HDV soon:
HDV Support Coming
Apple Computer is pleased to announce that it has joined the growing list of companies that are supporting the HDV format. HDV will be implemented in future versions of Apple products. Customers can begin using HDV with Final Cut Pro today through third party products such as Lumiere HDV and the Heuris Indie HD and Pro-Indie HD toolkits.
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P-Worm said:
That's true. But Premiere sucked like nothing has ever sucked before
And so did Avid. At least, those are my experiences. With Photoshop it's not the case, although there is still much to improve. Come to think of it, Apple might actually do it better ;-)P-Worm said:
Not many people loved Avid or thought it was perfect, before or after FCP. They were/are seen as cocky + overpriced. (see the xsan/unity comparisons - xsan looks like a great product for apple). People wanted to switch before anything even existed to switch to. Premiere was/is a joke.
If you're saving 50K by getting an FCP box over an MC box, it's worth a risk to replace a product you don't really like using. And FCP is STILL regarded as a toy by many producers... changing mindshare takes a lot of time.
As for a PS killer, people on the whole don't have a huge problem with photoshop. It does what it does and does it well. There are things that it could do better, but it is the standard, and no one's begging for change. (like they were with Quark or Avid, etc). That makes adoption more difficult. Also, someone above was talking about suite integration. Is apple also going to make an Illustrator killer? or an Indesign killer? Going after video with FCP and shake and logic already in your pocket is one thing, but print is another gig....
I agree that competition is a good thing. The problem with apple's strategy is that it seems to kill competition. Adobe already decided DVD authoring was a lost cause on the Mac. No mac encore or audition. Who's to say what app is next?