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Now we wait for Adobes reply.
It is also possible {as someone said} if Apple keep going this way Adobe will just can Mac support completely.
It is also possible {as someone said} if Apple keep going this way Adobe will just can Mac support completely.
Calebj14 said:
chances are, someone over there has already had that idea and is already working on it
stoid said:chances are, someone over there has already had that idea and is already working on it
LOL you're prolly right. i hope it works out (if someone at apple has had that idea). that would be great publicity.
I'm noticing an interesting trend here:
Companies generally drop Mac support because Apple makes a program that is far superior to what they are offering.
Companies generally drop Windows support because Microsoft maliciously forces them out of business.
Companies generally drop Mac support because Apple makes a program that is far superior to what they are offering.
Companies generally drop Windows support because Microsoft maliciously forces them out of business.
Amen Bishop. Adobe isn't gonna drop something if it is gonna make money. It wasn't until FCP 4 that adobe stopped selling premier for the mac. Mac users simply weren't buying enough to justify development costs. It wouldn't suprise me to eventually see after effects go... but I think it'll take a long long time for that. Premier didn't do that good for the mac even before FCP. Bottom line... Adobe isn't gonna drop Apple just cause they're pissed. They want their money just like all the other whores, and if they can get it, they'll sell it.
iChan said:
Yep, $6 a user (based 1GB/user and my swift non-negotiated prices which would probably come down by 15% to around $5/user) seems like where Google needs to be to make this affordable.
It probably works out to around $1.50/user-year once you've taken maintenance and infrastructure taken into account.
Ideal reference account.
Motion is not going to kill AE. People that use AE also have plugins that cost them a pretty penny. They're unlikely to give them up.[/QUOTE]
Apple claims motion works with AE plug-ins
Apple claims motion works with AE plug-ins
mr_austin said:
I think thats slowly changing. Over here in Australia, more and more broadcasters are doing their editorial on FCP. Its taken a while for the shift, but its happening rapidly now. FCP is seen as robust, cheap, and flexible. For shows planning to move from SD to HD, FCP is a cheaper more cost-effecient choice than scaling up their Avids.
ProTools remains the king of audio, and AE the swiss-army-knife of FX. I don't see that changing for a while.
Oh, and as others have mentioned, being pissed off isn't good business. If ProTools still makes money on the mac (and it does. Most PC PT users switch to Mac PT) and AE still makes money on the mac, they won't drop them to spite Apple.
Motion is about grabbing a niche which hasn't been targeted.
I would love to know what sort of reaction the applications received at the conference.
I love AE but when thinking of AE the words slow and bloated come to mind, my opinion. I can't wait for Motion, as a designer, it looks exactly like what I need, and for less ( specifically looking and thinking of design education in regards to motion ).
I love AE but when thinking of AE the words slow and bloated come to mind, my opinion. I can't wait for Motion, as a designer, it looks exactly like what I need, and for less ( specifically looking and thinking of design education in regards to motion ).
Dahl said:
Why would Adobe be worried? Motion is missing features(3D spaces, Motion Tracking, Painting etc) that AE mavens require on a daily basis. Motion nicely addresses weakness in FCP and should the need ever arise i'm sure a Motion Pro could address a departing AE or Combustion. But right now Apple is content to have Motion run it's course.
Apple gains nothing by purchasing Adobe but debt. Adobe has 5 or 6 good Mac programs and Apple is not interesting in furthering developement of large apps for PC. There isn't enough upside to counteract the downsides of an Adobe aquisiton.
wbrowne1 said:Yet again, I am punished for being a good customer and paying for my software as opposed to pirating it like most other students....
First with FCP 2, now with DVD SP 2, they announce a new version ONE WEEK after I paid for v2, so now I don't officially qualify for the up to date program....
WTF!!!!!!!!
this sucks
is it worth calling apple and bitching them out to see if they will cut me a deal??
If you are within a month of a new release you qualify for the Assurance program. Apple has links all over their site with the new product releases. Don't jump to conclusions.
Graphical View in DVD Studio Pro-v seems to me a lot like the visual browser in Encarta or UML style modelling for DVD.
Motion-now the price is lower than AE, and takes adavantage of the G5.
Motion-now the price is lower than AE, and takes adavantage of the G5.
nuckinfutz said:
READ the Specs, Motion is 100% compatible with AE Plugins. So all your investments in plugins is secure. This is an AE Killer. And, by the way, Apple's software frameworks practically have everything you need already developed to quickly put together a Photoshop type App (same goes for MS Office). Apple needs to give users a reason to buy an OS X PC over a Windows PC, Adobe has maintained a common codebase based on the limited Windows API's and then ported their code to OS X. That is why Apple needs to do what they are doing. If innovation dies in key areas of the OS X App product lines Apple will jump in. So, Adobe either needs to change their policy and start innovating on the Mac platform or watch Apple take a couple of year lead and not look back.
Apple is not a short-term thinker anymore they have been building more and more into their frameworks before they release an App because when they release the App , it really has to blow away the competition.
Now, take a look at all the new UI features built into Motion. There is a lot more coming down the pike in the way of innovation and it appears like Motion is giving us a preview of future OS X and App features.
gwangung said:
Cold Mountain was exclusively edited on FCP and G4 notebooks played a major role.
nuckinfutz said:
AE does not have a true Z axis, it allows zooming and layering for Quasi-3D effects. Worse is that all Photoshop vector components are rasterized. You have to import from illustrator to work with Vector objects. It appears that Motion is a major advance over AE. It's not like this is a version 1 product for Apple, I believe it is a derivative of Tremor, an App Apple acquired at the same time they bought Shake's owner. But, tremor required some hefty hardware to work for its time. And was seen as being a major competitor for Broadcast market-share. And that is why Apple needs Motion, the broadcast market is the weakest part of Apple's professional market and Windows dominates there. So Apple needs to really innovate and it appears that they have, especially on the speed front.
h'biki said:
This quote is meaningless without some idea of the hardware you're running. Maybe it's time to upgrade from your 60MHz PPC.
Motion comes from the same people who developed Shake (It was called Tremor back then) and Shake is no slouch, just ask almost every major movie house and the guys at WETA.