people want iPhones with GPS's, but then complain about being tracked
By that logic - people want cars to travel in - but complain of being followed and stalked. Really??
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Apple Named in Class Action Lawsuit Over Carrier IQ Privacy Issues
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By that logic - people want cars to travel in - but complain of being followed and stalked. Really??
Seems to be only after being caught.
Do I expect Apple to have to pay. More than likely not. I also expect CarrierIQ to get off with out having to pay. If anyone is going to end up forking out cash it will be the carriers and some of the hardware manufactures.
It is how the information is collected and if you were even given the choice to opt out
They know when you use their network but that is far different than knowing what Apps you run, text messages typed and so on.
What web sites you visit over wifi.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/1/2603719/apple-carrier-iq-support-dropped-from-most-products-with-ios-5
This is the opt-in question you get when setting up an iOS device for the first time. You are opted-out by default. The complete text is approximately "Do you want to share diagnostic information anonymously with Apple?"
You should be angry with yourself. You did not read the terms and conditions of your contract when you "agreed" to them. You also did not pay attention when you opted in to turn on sending of diagnostic data when you setup the phone.
Not paying attention is no excuse. You agreed to it. If you did not turn on the sending of diagnostic data then I don't see what your problem is since enabling it is optional and if you don't enable the feature then nothing is sent.
Exactly, to improve cell networks they don't need to log all the things they were logging
Kudos, Excellent Post!
I could not agree more.
As an aside, at the end of the day most of us are aware that most anything we post to the internet, is subject to whatever said parties want to do with it. Yes, it may even be beyond the terms of service we agree to, but that's the way it is. And it was like that prior to the internet.
Privacy is but a myth that slowly died away a long time ago. We are left with mere fragments and illusory visions of what was once true privacy. That's simply how it is. I don't like it and I suppose that none of us do. But the horse has already left the barn.
Cheers
When I see "diagnostic information" I'm thinking if an app crashes, if my GPS can't pull a signal, etc. Something to help the manufacturer root out and fix bugs. Carrier IQ was collecting personal data such as keystrokes and the like. That is not "diagnostic information" in a logical sense.
Carrier IQ is NOT used on any Verizon phone. AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile requested it be loaded on their phones by the handset builders. There is a new app in the Android Market to see if you have Carrier IQ on your phone or not. I tested my Droid RAZR on Verizon and it came back "There is no Carrier IQ on this handset" so I know it's clean.
By that logic, you would expect to receive directions from a person on the street without revealing any details concerning where you are travelling to?
@TWSS37: How would you expect Apple to figure out why Safari crashed if they don't know what website crashed, what you were doing at the time and other related information?
Because Apple is the biggest, most important company in the world, and the others aren't.
Take it as a compliment.
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Yeah, but this is Verizon we're talking about. The real question is what even-more-suspect alternative did they use instead.
And Apple collects none of that data. Period. It is that simple. There is no indication that any Android handset transmitted that data. Period.
Most of the hoopla (not all but most) is a result of many idiots typing on their keyboards when they do not know what they are looking at.
Its the carriers putting it on their phones not the device manufacturers. I imagine it has something to do with the American government wanting it in place for some reason.
CarrierIQ collects different data on different phones. Exactly what we dont know. On the iPhone, however, we know for sure it is not the stuff you are talking about.
An update in what the software does/doesn't do. Doesn't really seem all that bad, frankly...
http://www.pcworld.com/article/245492/carrier_iqs_cell_phone_snooping_overstated.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/245492/carrier_iqs_cell_phone_snooping_overstated.html
That does not mean there is not a CarrierIQ like program running. It may be as simply that Verizon uses a different company to sub-contract their code to or does it in-house.
I dont know im not American. All Emails, Phone Calls and Text are monitored by GCHQ in the UK at least. I imagine the American government will do something similar.
Tracking the Web URLs is the only piece that seems out of place. The rest is mostly already known and stacks only as a validation of the data.
Yes, the phone company already knows every number you dial, every person that calls you and the content of all of your text messages.
apologies for making the assumption, even though I read earlier of the existence of UK/GCHQ.
Probably AT&T is not being sued because the lawyers don't know up from down when it comes to technology.
You do realize that AT&T is very well mentioned as being a defendant? Some people never read the article....