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Apple Nearing Completion of Snow Leopard?

Mousse said:
With MicroSoft's track record, I'll give Win7 a try after SP1 or SP2.😛

I'm ready for Snow Leopard now.😎 If the promises are true, my machine will be faster just from upgrading the OS. And there are several programs I'm interested in that requires Leopard. (Still using Tiger here.😱)
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Windows 7 RC 1 works fine today and so did the Beta.

I didn't encounter many problems in 10.5.0 besides Time Machine and the occasional X11 hiccup. That was ages ago though.
 
I'm extremely anxious to see Snow Leopard demoed, but will still continue to hold my trigger finger. Mainly, because I'm running a 2.5-year-old Macbook Pro with pretty poor disk performance, especially noticed since iLife '09 came out. I'm sure this is because I upgraded the stock 5400RPM 160GB drive to one of the first 5400RPM 500GB drives that came out. When I say poor, I mean it. It takes 2 minutes to load my iPhoto library up, and when backing up my DVD's Handbrake gets maybe 5-10 FPS whereas a white plastic Macbook that's a year older with half the RAM gets 12-15fps. iMovie makes me hurt, even though I'm working on a 7200RPM Firewire 400 drive. And I just formatted and reinstalled Leopard.

IF I can convince the powers that be at the office to get a Snow Leopard family pack for the work systems I'll be able to upgrade, but I just don't think I'm going to see enough of a performance boost from even Snow Leopard to fix my speed issues.

So I'm going to wait for the i5 or i7-based iMacs to come out (in all honesty, the Macbook Pro sits docked happily at my desk 95% of the time) sell my Macbook Pro/23" Cinema Display, and upgrade to the 24" iMac with a 1TB drive or, if the fortune gods are smiling down on me, a 512GB SSD and keep my media library on an external drive that I can also use with an :apple:TV. Hopefully sometime after that Apple will release a respectable Netbook-alike that I can use to meet that other 5% that I need to be mobile.

And then, of course... I'll spend the rest of my life in the poor house, but not before walking quietly into the corner since nobody will give a hoot about anything I just wrote.
 
iMacmatician said:
This might mean "Marble" is delayed until 10.7? I wonder if Resolution Independence will make its way to Snow Leopard or if it too will first come in 10.7.
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You mean "full" Resolution Independence right? We have partial support right now, in Leopard (heck, even Tiger had partial support, but it was very incomplete and buggy). Leopard's implementation is also buggy still, though not as much as Tiger's RI implementation.
 
wrldwzrd89 said:
You mean "full" Resolution Independence right? We have partial support right now, in Leopard (heck, even Tiger had partial support, but it was very incomplete and buggy). Leopard's implementation is also buggy still, though not as much as Tiger's RI implementation.
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Yes, "full" Resolution Independence.

If Snow Leopard still comes with partial Resolution Independence, maybe we can compare the three Resolution Independences and extrapolate to when it might end up "full." 😛
 
my Mac Pro and I are greatly looking forward to this! 😀

And, for everybody angry that all the rumours are for iPhone, remember, it's always been like that. I can't remember a post iPod WWDC or MacWorld that didn't have iPhone rumours. remember the Rokr? 😉
 
Eidorian said:
I didn't encounter many problems in 10.5.0 besides Time Machine and the occasional X11 hiccup. That was ages ago though.
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Same here, I found that 10.5.0 didn't crash and I restarted mostly for those annoying quicktime updates than anything.
 
milo said:
Source? Sounds like nothing but more of the same speculation we've had for months. Thanks, but I can make wild guesses just as well as anyone else, I was asking if there was anything concrete that I had missed.
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Am I missing something? Can the developer builds of SL be installed on PPC hardware? If not, how can release this if it hasn't been tested on all the hardware it will be installed on.
 
fluffy said:
What, Grand Central and OpenCL aren't enough? I can't wait for those two features, and for my CPU-hungry apps (especially Logic Pro) to start using them.
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Notice that those a two different items that will happen on different dates. Buying snow leopard will get you Grand Central and OpenCL but those features will not be used. You will have to wait longer before the apps you use use those feaures.

So I have to wonder why everyone here wants to run out and stand in line to buy SN. Why? My plan is to continue using Leopard until one day one of the apps I use is updated to take advantage of SN. Then I'll have a reason to update the OS.

I don't want to pay $129 just so I can have a different color window border around a finder window.
 
/dev/toaster said:
Both of these cars http://lkp.cc/4BB5j http://lkp.cc/4BC03 serve the same purpose, they get you front point A to point B. Now you see where I am going with this ?
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To be fair though, that's more of a Windows to OS X comparison than a Leopard to Snow Leopard comparison. You've already got a very sexy, very smooth car by nature of the fact that it's OS X. If all Snow Leopard does is replace a gas guzzling V8 with an energy efficient, better performing V8 in the same sexy car, I'm okay with that 🙂 (Note that I have virtually no interest or experience with sports cars--so here's a big "You get my point" if my analogy is totally inappropriate).
 
eagerly waiting for 10.6 to pep up my late 06 macbook that's still running tiger (i skipped leopard). you'll see alot of leopard skippers with core 2 duo macs in line for day one. hope it's sooner rather than later, as less and less apps are supporting 10.4 nowadays.

and for those wanting a free 10.6? yeah right. if apple discounts at all, it will be 90-100 bucks for upgrade disc and the normal 130 for full install discs.
 
ChrisA said:
So I have to wonder why everyone here wants to run out and stand in line to buy SN. Why?
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I would guess it's for the same reason that many people rush to install updates like 10.5.7 on the day they show up in Software Update, without waiting for problems to be reported; just Apple release junkies.
 
ChrisA said:
Notice that those a two different items that will happen on different dates. Buying snow leopard will get you Grand Central and OpenCL but those features will not be used. You will have to wait longer before the apps you use use those feaures.

So I have to wonder why everyone here wants to run out and stand in line to buy SN. Why? My plan is to continue using Leopard until one day one of the apps I use is updated to take advantage of SN. Then I'll have a reason to update the OS.

I don't want to pay $129 just so I can have a different color window border around a finder window.
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It's nice to see all those features and libraries up on stage but it's pointless without the applications.

Leopard still has to deliver.
 
Cool, looking forward to it. Looking forward to submitting reports for the same bugs I have been submitting since Tiger shipped!

I really hope WWDC concentrates on SL. They need to make it seem more of a big deal than it appears thus far - they need coverage of the new features behind "no new features". Launch in a month would be sweet. If it coincided with iPhone 3.0 release, I'd say even sweeter. But seriously, time to focus on OS X again, and not the iPhone version.
 
starflyer said:
Am I missing something? Can the developer builds of SL be installed on PPC hardware? If not, how can release this if it hasn't been tested on all the hardware it will be installed on.
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They can't. But we have no idea when the OS will actually ship, and with 10.5 they initially released it to devs intel only then released a PPC version later.
 
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milo said:
starflyer said:
Am I missing something? Can the developer builds of SL be installed on PPC hardware? If not, how can release this if it hasn't been tested on all the hardware it will be installed on.
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They can't. But we have no idea when the OS will actually ship, and with 10.5 they initially released it to devs intel only then released a PPC version later.
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That answers my question. Thanks!
 
ChrisA said:
Notice that those a two different items that will happen on different dates. Buying snow leopard will get you Grand Central and OpenCL but those features will not be used. You will have to wait longer before the apps you use use those feaures.
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Why would you say that? Can you elaborate?
 
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