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I really really like my note ii, but it is quite big, the s-pen does allow for so many more options though.
 
Have you tried it or just dismissing it because it's what android is doing? I think this is the same attitude towards a 7" iPad.

I love the Screen Sizes android offers from Nexus to S3 to the Note, I can't wait for Note II.
 
I am fine with Apple going with a larger screen.

However, they must do it because they honestly believe it is the best direction forward, and not simply to pander to a few vocal keyboard warriors.:apple:
 
Have you tried it or just dismissing it because it's what android is doing? I think this is the same attitude towards a 7" iPad.

I love the Screen Sizes android offers from Nexus to S3 to the Note, I can't wait for Note II.

I have tried it, it's just too big and too heavy, almost nothing I do on my iPhone needs a screen that big.
 
OP, no one cares anymore (not even me - as much as I consider the 4" skinny screen a FAIL). It took Apple 5 years to go 4". They're done. And appear to be done with the OS as well.

Yes, because Apple isn't making what YOU want, they will surely fail. :rolleyes:
Don't like it, don't buy it. If their sales start to drop, maybe they will change course. At the current sales numbers, why would they?
 
Apple will have a 4. Something inch screen when they decide its worth it to them commercially eg probably iPhone6 . Don't forget they are a business so the more "customers" they can persuade a dual core over locked 4" screen is all the world needs then that's what they will do . I have an iPhone 4S and I find it superior to the sgs3 I traded etc in all but resize able widgets and screen size ! Why change again ???? Because everyone else does ? Without sounding horrible the only reason the iPad mini is out is due to the CEO change unfortunately . Just my 2 pence.

James
 
I don't think a jumbo iphone makes sense.

However if Apple were to do a 5" Newton 2 "PDA", that might work. But then there is the risk of Apple getting a bloated product line which we know from the past, is not good.
 
I believe that for Apple to continue to be a great company it needs to play the game where the market is. When Apple stops doing that, they risk shrinking and losing their edge. Less business means less innovation, less innovation means worse products. Apple must corner more of the market, not a niche.

I always hear the word innovation when people talk about apple.

Can you please tell me how the iPhone 5 is innovative?

in·no·va·tion 1. something new or different

There's nothing new and different about the iPhone 5.

The first iPhone was massively innovative, was a market changer which everyone tried to imitate. But the 3G and 3Gs were more of the same. The iPhone 4 was again a game changer, whole new design, new features, retina etc. The 4s was the same but faster, the 5 is the same but taller and faster. There's nothing innovative. There's plenty of devices out there with a screen similar, with similar features. There is no innovation. There's nothing on the iPhone 5 feature wise you can't get elsewhere.

Don't take me the wrong way, I love apple products, I have a 4s, iPod touch and iPad 3. I'll probbly upgrade to the iPhone 5 over the galaxy S3 just because the S3 is a little too big for me, I could stick with the 4s but having had the 4 before it I'm sick to death of looking at the same phone. I'm not really happy they just elongated the screen but that is preferable to the massive S3 screen to me.

I agree the iPhone 5 is a fantastic device, it does what it says on the tin and comes with the backu of fantastic customer service from apple. But innovative, no it's not.
 
All the people that said 3.5" was the perfect size are now saying 4" is the perfect size, if Apple release a 5" iphone it will be the next perfect size, its amazing how people change their mind depending on what Apple release hey.

^ This ^
 
I have to believe that Apple knows exactly what it is doing with its current market research. Based on current sales of the iP5, Apple has to be quite comfortable and pleased with its decision making process.
 
Are the iphone sales huge from New customers or old customers? As in customers that had older devices that needed an update.

I tend to believe old customers. The phone was and is to small in today's market.

I went from the iphone 5 to sg3 and now the note 2.

Going back to my wife's 5, it seems like a kids toy. Way to small.

Sg3 is the perfect size for phones these days. And let's be honest, Apple could sell dirt and people would buy millions of it. It's a status symbol these days more than a great product
 
Only apple themselves will know or have a good idea of whether offering 2 iPhones with 2 sizes will be more profitable than one. I for one would probably like a larger iPhone, but that's selfish, I have huge hands and it wouldn't be difficult to use a 4.5-4.7" one handed, but I agree, if there can only be one size, quite literally it needs to be a one size fits all device, and for that, I think the 5 is a good compromise, which a one size fits all is always going to be. A 4.7" iPhone with less bezel and a great retina full HD screen would be nice, but again, apple needs to determine if there's any profit in it. They're a corporation that exists to make money, after all. :)

And yes, I know there are still 3.5" iPhones, but of course what I mean is a 4" and a larger 4.5-5" option.

To the guy above, Apple could not sell dirt, what they can and do sell is a very polished, smooth and intuitive phone that's fast, reliable, easy to hold and throw in any size pocket, and in a very elegant, high quality package. And yes, I guess all the dumb people, ie people other than you, fall for it. :)
 
All the people that said 3.5" was the perfect size are now saying 4" is the perfect size, if Apple release a 5" iphone it will be the next perfect size, its amazing how people change their mind depending on what Apple release hey.

It's amazing how fickle how the most hardcore Apple fans are. So many were crying when rumours of a four inch screen were leaked and they were saying 3.5 was the perfect size. Now we have a four inch display and these same people are not only happy with it but are proclaiming how prefect it is. Simply amazing.

"Apple knows what you want before you know what you want" :rolleyes:
 
I personally believe that the iPhone 5 is by far the best phone you can get for my purposes and has ideal dimensions. A 4" screen is the maximum size that is appropriate for holding with one hand, with my hand my thumb reaches the opposite corner of the screen perfectly while holding it in the natural position. Above all else I really enjoy using my phone in a manner that is fast and seamless and I need something that is "agile" and minimalist for my style of use.

However, I've noticed that a growing number of people have this obsessive desire for a bigger screen on their phones. They will have nothing less than a phone with a 4.8" screen.

I believe that for Apple to continue to be a great company it needs to play the game where the market is. When Apple stops doing that, they risk shrinking and losing their edge. Less business means less innovation, less innovation means worse products. Apple must corner more of the market, not a niche.

Anyways, here's my proposed list of features for the iPhone 5 Pro

5" screen

Unibody design/construction which is also lighter and thinner than the GS3

1740x960 resolution (1.5 times the iPhone 5 resolution, allowing it to use the same apps with scaling)

Better in every measurable way than the GS3 by a significant margin (battery life, screen quality, camera) (excluding for software features, removable storage, removable battery and NFC).

Apple can easily do this, and they must do this.

No they don't. This screen size is perfect for me.
 
Only apple themselves will know or have a good idea of whether offering 2 iPhones with 2 sizes will be more profitable than one. I for one would probably like a larger iPhone, but that's selfish, I have huge hands and it wouldn't be difficult to use a 4.5-4.7" one handed, but I agree, if there can only be one size, quite literally it needs to be a one size fits all device, and for that, I think the 5 is a good compromise, which a one size fits all is always going to be. A 4.7" iPhone with less bezel and a great retina full HD screen would be nice, but again, apple needs to determine if there's any profit in it. They're a corporation that exists to make money, after all. :)

And yes, I know there are still 3.5" iPhones, but of course what I mean is a 4" and a larger 4.5-5" option.

To the guy above, Apple could not sell dirt, what they can and do sell is a very polished, smooth and intuitive phone that's fast, reliable, easy to hold and throw in any size pocket, and in a very elegant, high quality package. And yes, I guess all the dumb people, ie people other than you, fall for it. :)

Sorry but the days of polished and reliable devices are over. Have you seen the complaints lately.

And trust me they could sell whatever they wanted as long as there was an apple logo on it millions would buy it
 
Love all the people who said 3.5" is the perfect size, don't change it.

Apple changes it to 4".

Now 4" is the perfect size, don't change it. :rolleyes:
 
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My HTC EVO 4G (the original Sprint WiMAX version) is on the fritz, so the other day I went to the Sprint store to check out the iPhone 5. First impression: way too small after two years of using the EVO. Unless Apple comes out with a wider iPhone, I'll be going with another Android, probably the Galaxy S or another EVO.
 
Love all the people who said 3.5" is the perfect size, don't change it.

Apple changes it to 4".

Now 4" is the perfect size, don't change it. :rolleyes:

Interesting statement you often hear, but likely based on faulty logic. You can't possibly know or assume the very same people saying 3.5 was perfect are the ones now saying 4" is. I suspect most of those that didn't want a 4" aren't being vocal about 4" being perfect now. They may be ok with it, with maybe a few of them realizing they now do prefer 4" after trying it in person, which is fair.

But I'd be very surprised overall if a significant number of the people who were vocal about not wanting bigger because 3.5 was perfect, being vocal now that 4" is in fact perfect. In fact I'm pretty sure your statement is just plain false. It sounds good, but that doesn't make it true.
 
There may not be "significant" as you say numbers , but i have personally heard at least 2 dozen of my work colleagues and 2 close family members who have stated how apple just get everything perfect , to which my logic was if 3.5" was perfect why change to 4" ???

It seems to me there are a large amount of people who would literally evangelize ANYTHING Apple sold, and thats coming from a household that owns a few apple products .

My own personal opinion if anyone cares at all is a 4.3" screen with a higher clocked dual core , say 1.6 - 1.8ghz , 1gb ram and re-sizeable widgets out of the box would be the perfect iphone 5s/6 as ios is far less disorganized than android so will run smoother anyway

Then the majority of the naysayers would stop talking about what if etc etc

James



Interesting statement you often hear, but likely based on faulty logic. You can't possibly know or assume the very same people saying 3.5 was perfect are the ones now saying 4" is. I suspect most of those that didn't want a 4" aren't being vocal about 4" being perfect now. They may be ok with it, with maybe a few of them realizing they now do prefer 4" after trying it in person, which is fair.

But I'd be very surprised overall if a significant number of the people who were vocal about not wanting bigger because 3.5 was perfect, being vocal now that 4" is in fact perfect. In fact I'm pretty sure your statement is just plain false. It sounds good, but that doesn't make it true.
 
Apple would go bankrupt before they'd make the device you're talking about. 5 inches? There would be riots in the streets, that's too big.
 
Apple NEEDS to build an iPhone with a built in time machine. They have the money. Hear me out:

It should also be solid gold (or platinum) and better by every measurable to every other iPhone competitor (even in the FUTURE... See why the time machine is helpful now???).

Then, make it exclusive, but make it so everyone can get one.

Oh, and it has to be big AND small at the same time.

Hmm. What else?

It should fly. No reason, it'd just be bad ass.

And definitely have more GeeBees than the Android. And a 3D case.

It would RULE.

If Apple doesn't do this I predict it will be out of business by years end. Period.
 
Apple NEEDS to build an iPhone with a built in time machine. They have the money. Hear me out:

It should also be solid gold (or platinum) and better by every measurable to every other iPhone competitor (even in the FUTURE... See why the time machine is helpful now???).

Then, make it exclusive, but make it so everyone can get one.

Oh, and it has to be big AND small at the same time.

Hmm. What else?

It should fly. No reason, it'd just be bad ass.

And definitely have more GeeBees than the Android. And a 3D case.

It would RULE.

If Apple doesn't do this I predict it will be out of business by years end. Period.

Funny, :) but apple did actually run a commercial stating, to paraphrase: "How can something bigger...be, smaller???" :)
 
The....

The biggest problem with those large android phones is the abysmal battery life.
I often talk to people who are having their phones current draw are outrunning the battery chargers' ability to charge it. Especially on the larger recent Droids starting with the Droid RAZR.

Apple is making the 5 larger, but not too much larger. Why? The limits of current battery technology would make a larger screen phone largely impractical in terms of the size of smaller human hands and existing battery technology.

Me? I have large hands - I find a Galaxy S3 fine for my hands. But I know people with smaller hands.
As a guitar player, I favor larger fretboards, some guitars I've tried are too small. The iPhone5 isn't too small.

Just wait 3-4 years, it will be interesting. You're already seeing phones the size of mini-tablets, as well as getting tablets the size of large phones. Those things are converging.

As far as the iPhone5 "not being innovative" - if it's not "innovative" and drowned by "critics" commentary about screen size how come it's a over a month after release and they still can't make enough to reach demand?
 
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