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Apple needs to fix iOS performance

I agree completely!

iOS 8 adds no visual overhead that wasn't present in iOS 7, yet my iPad 3's performances has been greatly degraded.

Even on my iPhone 6 I see lag when scrolling through wallpapers or through a long list of albums in Music. The A8 (and A7/A6 for that matter) can and should handle OS graphics well.
 
Well the same can be said of most operating systems. As code size increases two or three fold over the prior version to add features, performance optimization isn't looked after.
 
Ios8 ok on my 6

I feel bad for folks that are having a bad experience with ios8.
I upgraded my 4s to ios8 before getting my iPhone 6 and I love 8 on both phones. I love it on the 6!
but I also did not downgrade:) to 8.01
Hey it's only been out a few weeks, everything should be good when
8.1 comes out?
Keep hope alive!:p
 
I could say many different things about this matter, but yes, iOS 8 needs a kick in the rear to get it moving faster. But not just faster, but smoother and cleaner. I could also list out many bugs I've noticed but we're all well aware of many of them.

It seems that iOS needs it's OS X Snow Leopard equivalent. Fast, polished, light and not bloated. But I think that's the Apple of the past. 2014 is much different than 2009, but the same concept applies. Snow Leopard was an update that actually made an older Mac with the same hardware go faster with a new OS, not the other way around like iOS has been going.
 
Merkie said:
iOS performance is going downhill every year.

I remember the moment I got my iPhone 5 perfectly well. It was extremely fast and smooth. Two years later, this is not the case anymore and it is choppy for no reason. iOS 8 almost looks identical to iOS 7, yet its visual performance is much worse than iOS 7. I also have an iPad 3, I probably don't have to tell you how awful the performance is. It's like a slideshow (iOS 7.1.2 ran pretty well actually).

A few years back, I remember "us" making fun of Android for lag. Well, let me tell you, I recently used a €180 Moto G (you can get about 4 of them in exchange for 1 iPhone :rolleyes: ), and it was buttery smooth and very fast. Ofcourse it has its limitations (camera is subpar), but I'm observing a trend here:

- iOS performance worsens each year, even on the high-end models
- Android performance increases every year, and runs perfectly fine on low-end hardware

It won't be much longer or Android users will start to make fun of us for our slow and laggy phones instead of the other way around. Maybe we have already reached this point.

This bothers me a lot. iOS is the main reason I have an iPhone, but its advantages are diminishing rapidly if Apple doesn't get their act together and start focusing on performance instead of useless features such as HealthKit, widgets or shortcuts in the multitasking window.

End rant. :(

PS.
Idea: How about a feature freeze for iOS 9. Don't add any new features or change anything, and only focus on increasing performance and fixing bugs.
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My 5S is already at that point. You clearly see it skip frames,and I've had to reset it(hard reset from the computer) twice now because it keeps freezing. Yesterday, my home button just stopped working, no matter how many times I hit it, the phone wouldn't go back to the home screen. An iTunes reset fixed it. If this keeps up, I will have no problem switching to Android. The reason I liked iOS was because it was smooth, and hassle free. I have my eyes on a Galaxy Note 4, if Apple doesn't clean up it's act, I'm gone.
 
Some of this has to do with the apps as well.. A good example is the Apple Store which was updated yesterday. Prior to the update it was laggy while scrolling. But now, it's silky smooth.

For those that have not updated yet, give this app a whirl and try scrolling the main page. Update and see how it works post.
 
Merkie said:
iOS performance is going downhill every year.

I remember the moment I got my iPhone 5 perfectly well. It was extremely fast and smooth. Two years later, this is not the case anymore and it is choppy for no reason. iOS 8 almost looks identical to iOS 7, yet its visual performance is much worse than iOS 7. I also have an iPad 3, I probably don't have to tell you how awful the performance is. It's like a slideshow (iOS 7.1.2 ran pretty well actually).

A few years back, I remember "us" making fun of Android for lag. Well, let me tell you, I recently used a €180 Moto G (you can get about 4 of them in exchange for 1 iPhone :rolleyes: ), and it was buttery smooth and very fast. Ofcourse it has its limitations (camera is subpar), but I'm observing a trend here:

- iOS performance worsens each year, even on the high-end models
- Android performance increases every year, and runs perfectly fine on low-end hardware

It won't be much longer or Android users will start to make fun of us for our slow and laggy phones instead of the other way around. Maybe we have already reached this point.

This bothers me a lot. iOS is the main reason I have an iPhone, but its advantages are diminishing rapidly if Apple doesn't get their act together and start focusing on performance instead of useless features such as HealthKit, widgets or shortcuts in the multitasking window.

End rant. :(

PS.
Idea: How about a feature freeze for iOS 9. Don't add any new features or change anything, and only focus on increasing performance and fixing bugs.
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I think the last time tried a feature freeze, frost all was fired cause of maps.. It's not gonna happen.. If u remember ios 7.1 was the one which made the OS smooth.. If the performance doesn't boost with 8.1 then u have to rant... Even I have dislikes that the performance worsens .
 
illusionmist said:
Sometimes I wonder if there are not enough code ninjas or truly geeky geeks who spend their time poking the existing code with a stick and experimenting on new ones in Apple. I mean, sure, OS X, iOS, all those other software, cloud services, and backend infrastructures won't be here without some sophisticated work, and I'm sure most Apple engineers are very talented and experienced. When it comes to really really low level stuff, however, I suspect not enough people have the know how to really tinker the nasty innards of those beasts, bringing in fundamental changes or optimization.

For example, running Windows and OS X on the same hardware (be it Bootcamp or conversely, Hackintosh), Windows constantly outperforms OS X. Not that evident on newer setup, but you can clearly see it with an older CPU and normal HDD. Not to mention OS X gets utterly crushed in the graphics performance department.

And Android. Goddamn Android. We all remember what an absolute piece of you know what Android was, but boy does it evolve. It's got a great design guideline with Holo, its performance grew by leaps and bounds with every release and those amazing "projects", and now it's yet again focusing on UI/UX with Material Design where iOS was often deemed superior.

iOS could never be open sourced like Android, so it needs even more potent developers, geeks, and ninjas to make up for that. Chris Lattner and his LLVM and Swift are great treasures to Apple, and we need more guys like him. Weird enough, even now we're still hearing about Apple moving developers from one team to another JUST TO BE ABLE TO SHIP ON TIME. And then there's the recent chain of events... Why oh why Apple?
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This. Apple should be spending their billions scouring the planet for the hottest hotshot assembly optimizers. Not rappers! Apple management is a bunch of arrogant douchtanks at this point. It's embarrassing how the tables have turned between iOS and Android
 
Merkie said:
iOS performance is going downhill every year.

I remember the moment I got my iPhone 5 perfectly well. It was extremely fast and smooth. Two years later, this is not the case anymore and it is choppy for no reason. iOS 8 almost looks identical to iOS 7, yet its visual performance is much worse than iOS 7. I also have an iPad 3, I probably don't have to tell you how awful the performance is. It's like a slideshow (iOS 7.1.2 ran pretty well actually).

A few years back, I remember "us" making fun of Android for lag. Well, let me tell you, I recently used a €180 Moto G (you can get about 4 of them in exchange for 1 iPhone :rolleyes: ), and it was buttery smooth and very fast. Ofcourse it has its limitations (camera is subpar), but I'm observing a trend here:

- iOS performance worsens each year, even on the high-end models
- Android performance increases every year, and runs perfectly fine on low-end hardware

It won't be much longer or Android users will start to make fun of us for our slow and laggy phones instead of the other way around. Maybe we have already reached this point.

This bothers me a lot. iOS is the main reason I have an iPhone, but its advantages are diminishing rapidly if Apple doesn't get their act together and start focusing on performance instead of useless features such as HealthKit, widgets or shortcuts in the multitasking window.

End rant. :(

PS.
Idea: How about a feature freeze for iOS 9. Don't add any new features or change anything, and only focus on increasing performance and fixing bugs.
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Well stated! I concur 100%!
 
sanke1 said:
There is no need to get offended.



I call spade a spade when corporations don't deliver on their promises. A lot was promised but most of the promised features worked partially or outright refused to work or got pulled last minute.
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He certainly doesn't seem offended, but he has every right to be offended by someone essentially saying that the "logical remarks" have no equally logical rebuttal- which you did by implying that anybody who disagrees must be an Apple apologist, and not someone who is simply pleased with the way iOS 8 performs on their device.

I also call a spade a spade, and you are always nagging and complaining about everything Apple does, all while dismissing anybody that doesn't see things the same way- just as you did in your first post in this thread.

Consider the situation before casting the first stone.
 
sanke1 said:
I completely agree but Apple apologists on this site will tear you down for your logical remarks.
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Shhhhhh, they're reading this! I wouldn't want them to tell us that our hardware is too old, or that we are inept, or that their devices are working fine! It must be a conspiracy against Apple! :rolleyes:
 
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ios 8 is becoming apple's windows 8.
They should take a hint from microsoft and dump the whole thing and get on with ios 9, or ios x, which could complete the transition to a unified os across all devices.
 
Tubamajuba said:
He certainly doesn't seem offended, but he has every right to be offended by someone essentially saying that the "logical remarks" have no equally logical rebuttal- which you did by implying that anybody who disagrees must be an Apple apologist, and not someone who is simply pleased with the way iOS 8 performs on their device.

I also call a spade a spade, and you are always nagging and complaining about everything Apple does, all while dismissing anybody that doesn't see things the same way- just as you did in your first post in this thread.

Consider the situation before casting the first stone.
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Wrong. I have praised Apple wherever necessary. If a random guy on internet says he has zero lag while my iPad Safari becomes a sideshow, there is definitely some inconsistency somewhere. Why do 2 people have exactly opposite experience when they have exact same hardware? The weak link is software if we assume both are telling the truth.

So we can conclude that iOS 8 is inconsistent and therefore needs work. There are plenty of members who imply that "iOS 8 rulez! It's da smoothest eva! Since I have no problemz, you uzin it wrong!" They simply fail to acknowledge.

Btw, Apple themselves know about the insane number of problems with their software and are releasing betas like crazy. So quickly we are at 8.1 while going to 7.1 took 4-5 months.

What more proof do you need?
 
Performance on all devices seems to have degraded over since at least iOS 6.

When 7 came out, lots of people knew that 6 was much more responsive than 7.0. People insisted that 7.0 was "fine" and that they couldn't tell a difference. Then, 7.1 came along and people realized how much snappier it was, despite still being slower than 6.

I'm not on 8 yet, partially because Apple seems to be fine with poor responsiveness on a phone. Tapping/swiping and having it do nothing is really irritating.

Even Android is starting to feel fresh and alive, not to mention Windows Phone is far more streamlined and efficient.

I do hope Apple starts to put more focus in the responsiveness again. They used to take such pride in having screens that were 10, 50, or 100 ms more responsive than Android devices. None of that matters when there's a 1000 ms window where the phone isn't even paying attention.
 
Luis Ortega said:
ios 8 is becoming apple's windows 8.
They should take a hint from microsoft and dump the whole thing and get on with ios 9, or ios x, which could complete the transition to a unified os across all devices.
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You say ios 8 is like windows 8 and than claim they should do a unified OS. That's the main reason people hate windows 8 in the first place, it's two crappie OS stitched together. No one wants a unified OS so apple should not and will not dump it since that would be idiotic.
Also 8.1 beta 2 was just released and it fixed the wifi problems and improved performance. Right now it's already much smoother than 7.0 was and rest will be fixed for the most part with 8.1. As someone said above don't get fooled by ios 8 performance while using a third party app that's not yet optimised. It's not like 8.0 is completely unusable, unless you run 8.0.1:)
Long live the drama queens
 
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I equate software to newer luxury cars and performance cars. As time goes on, more and more people want all the latest doo dads and tech they can cram into one platform. Thus making the platform bloated, overweight, and leaving the manufacturer trying to make up for this in other departments to get it to be a smooth platform. Added to this, the more fluff you add, the more areas you open yourself to having problems with down the road.....it's scary how similar they are.
 
We all have to agree to the fact that iOS 8 is a rushed release. They are now trying to fix it by quick updates. Pretty sad if you ask me. They should have just focused on iPhone release and released iOS with the new iPad later on.
 
I remember when I got my iPod touch 4th gen and it worked like a charm. That was back when iOS 4 was the latest version of iOS was available. But it had a lot of performance issues on iOS 6.

THIS IS NOTHING NEW

not saying it shouldn't be fixed, but this has been a problem with apple devices for years.
 
I'm guessing an iOS version of "Project Butter" is needed? Personally, my iphone runs perfectly smooth (with the exception of the wallpaper list as mentioned by someone above)... although that might be due to the fact that I've disabled lots of stuff (spotlight, quicktype, contacts in app switcher, perspective zoom, background app refresh and etc.) The biggest problem I have right now is that with each new iOS, the disk space required seems to be rapidly growing. :eek:
 
OP, I'm going to take a guess that you didn't setup your phone as "new"? That you transferred over all your old apps/photos/music/videos? My iPhone 6 ran a little slow in the beginning when I was first restoring my settings, photos, and apps. Keyboard seemed to lag. Safari web pages lagged. And for about a week, it was like that. 8.0.2 didn't fix it.

But in trying to fix this annoying accelerometer problem (screen wasn't orienting), I ended up resetting my phone a few times and the lag seems to have cleared up. I don't have any way of objectively assessing this, but I no longer have any complaints about the general OS performance. Not sure if it was the resetting of the phone, or also because a lot of the apps seemed to have been updated in the past week.

Another thought is that Spotlight searches a lot more stuff now, and I think there was indexing going on in the background. That may have taken longer than I expected. Also, since Apple is allowing a lot more 'deeper' access to the OS, you may have some apps that are syncing or indexing data (contacts/photos/messages, etc, etc).

In any case, try resetting your phone or restarting. Give it at least a week or two, update all your apps and see if it's still laggy.
 
crashoverride77 said:
You say ios 8 is like windows 8 and than claim they should do a unified OS. That's the main reason people hate windows 8 in the first place, it's two crappie OS stitched together. No one wants a unified OS so apple should not and will not dump it since that would be idiotic.
Also 8.1 beta 2 was just released and it fixed the wifi problems and improved performance. Right now it's already much smoother than 7.0 was and rest will be fixed for the most part with 8.1. As someone said above don't get fooled by ios 8 performance while using a third party app that's not yet optimised. It's not like 8.0 is completely unusable, unless you run 8.0.1:)
Long live the drama queens
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I don't use android devices but the reviews of the 6 on youtube eVEN with 8.02
are saying its the best phone, period.
Maybe that is a bit over the top but its as you said, 8.02 is far from unusable.
 
I'm agree with performance optimization is really required. But it should be point update not full release updates.

new APIs definitely will tax performance. Eg: when pulling Notification Center. iOS 7 not need to check if there's new widget to display. iOS 8 do.
 
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