iPhone SE Apple needs to make it clear they are still interested in Smaller iPhones or not!

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  1. Digger148 macrumors regular

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    The biggest reason for the iPhone SE's existence was not so much to appease the tiny phone enthusiast, but, that it was the most cost effective way to get a premium performing iPhone to market to fend off the "then emerging" $400 Android flagship killers that were popping up like weeds. Those flagship killers have grown into $600+ flagships: right where the iPhone 8 (and heavily discounted XR) now exists.
     
  2. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    It depends how you look at this. From Apple‘s perspective during the March 2016 Keynote, they stated they brought the iPhone SE back, because there was a demographic that was requesting a smaller device. But behind the scenes of Apples intentions also, obviously was to have a phone for other emerging markets, where smart phones are generally to exorbitant in price in other countries. So the SE was really a multifaceted phone meant to meet expectations into different segments, but either way, it was a limited term release, and didn’t generate enough money long term.
     
  3. subjonas macrumors 68000

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    I just looked up the rumor. Very interesting. I really miss using that phone too. I still have my old one in a box somewhere haha. Part of me actually wants to go back to using it. If this new one turns out to be good, and if Apple doesn’t offer a small phone by the time my SE dies, I will most likely make the jump.

    While looking up this rumor I also found out that the Nokia slider phone made a comeback last year. It’s pretty much just a rehash of the old phone but with lte and hotspot. That’s an interesting option as well.
     
  4. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    Something else interesting Worth noting, Motorola is allegedly returning the Razr, which also was a flip phone. And if you recall the Motorola Razr, it was extremely popular for its time, because it was so thin when all the other phones were truly bulky. I suspect other smart for manufactures really want to shake up the market and try to do things differently, like folding displays, flip phones returning, etc. Maybe that’s what the market needs sometimes, is to have diversity.
     
  5. subjonas macrumors 68000

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    Yes haha, the razr was the rumor I was referring to.
    I would love for companies to shake things up with a call back to flip phones. So many people here and irl seem to mention how they miss their razr. With folding displays it may just be possible to get the best of both worlds. Although so far I haven’t seen anything too promising.
     
  6. Alch3mist macrumors member

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    I was thinking that this would be a logical step to keep up with the emerging foldable phone market. I was looking at my SE and it seemed that it would be smaller than a mini if unfolded. Anyway, this seems like a concept that Apple ingenuity could really slam home.
     
  7. jecowa macrumors regular

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    I hope this year they'll break the XR up into two products, a smaller XR2 mini and a larger XR2 Plus. I would probably upgrade from a 6+ to an XR if the screen was just as wide as on the plus.

    I would love for the Apple Watch to become a telephone replacement.
     
  8. ApolloBoy macrumors 6502a

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    After all the news about the SE I went and picked up a used 64 GB Space Gray model on eBay. Gotta say, it's really nice having a small phone again after being used to a big Android phone and the 6S.
     
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    Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    I suspect Apple will release a smaller version of the XR eventually, I don’t think it will be in 2019. I still think the XR is on the ‘growing trend’ for those who are upgrading, and I expect Apple to refresh the XR in 2019, but 2019 will be an interesting year to see the iPhone pricing. But I do think that there is hope for a smaller device with Apple in the future.
     
  10. BasicGreatGuy Contributor

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    In my opinion, Apple has already made their statement with phone size focus.
     
  11. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    If you follow Apple, then you know that they have a notorious prestige when it comes to releasing device sizes that may not always be the ‘norm’. They exemplified that with SE, the iPad mini is allegedly returning, however; are these product sizes the ‘norm’ today for the average consumer? No, not at all. But I think Apple really does have the uncanniness to be unpredictable, they really haven’t made a statement about anything, they just graduated to larger, more expensive devices. But if there is any tech manufacturer that knows anything about diversity, it’s Apple, so I wouldn’t rule them out as you did with smaller devices in the future.
     
  12. Steve121178 macrumors 601

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    Why don't you do it?

    tcook@apple.com
     
  13. ascender macrumors 68020

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    Add me to the camp of people who would love an updated SE handset. Something as close as possible to the form factor of the SE with as much of the X tech in it as possible.

    I'm really not a fan of phones getting bigger - I understand that for many people these are now their primary computing device, but I'd really love Apple to offer a choice of sizes. Give me a small phone which I can use as a phone, for texting, mail, music, with a half decent camera in a package I can use one handed.

    I'm cautiously optimistic Apple will do something in the future, but maybe the best we can hope for is the classic iPhone 6s case with an edge to edge display.
     
  14. animatedude thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Just did!
     
  15. millerj123 macrumors 65816

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    Yep, I’d love to upgrade to better internals in the smaller form factor. I’m still waiting for the SE2.
     
  16. speedyraf macrumors member

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    I learned about the clearance sales too late to order an iPhone SE. It's not my main computing device, so, for basic operations, a refurbished, unlocked iPhone SE might be an option - although I would have preferred to order a new SE from Apple. It's size fits me and my pockets. Price is a consideration as well since this would be the backup cellphone.
     
  17. Kram Sacul macrumors regular

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    I doubt Apple would bother with an SE refresh when they're pushing their underwhelming XR. At this point we should just embrace the X/Xs size since that is now considered the small phone compared to the comically oversized Xs Max.
     
  18. AppleHaterLover macrumors 65816

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    Would you pay $699 for it?
     
  19. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    How is the Max ‘comically oversized’ if it’s virtually almost the same size as the Plus size iPhone? I’m not following your point here.
     
  20. Kram Sacul macrumors regular

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    The Plus iPhones are also comically oversized. Unless you're Mr Magoo of course.
     
  21. Kerry78 macrumors regular

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    Smaller phones make good music use and better at fitting in pockets :D
     
  22. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

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    Good music use?
     
  23. ascender macrumors 68020

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    I sure would.

    I’d also pay twice what they currently charge for AirPods if they did a pair of buds with different plastic fittings for different ear shapes.
     
  24. Kerry78 macrumors regular

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    Does he reply lol? I just dropped a message to him regarding a store opening we really need a store local to us :)
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    I use mine for long commutes as I have No car, use like podcasts and music I’ve purchased iTunes :)
     
  25. ascender macrumors 68020

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    That's my thought about them too. But lots of people really like having these Plus sized phones - whether its because of their eyesight; they watch a lot of view on them or they use them as their main productivity device. That's just a few common reasons which I totally respect, but I wish Apple would also cater for those of us who don't want or need a big iPhone.

    The size of phones has gradually gone up over time. I knew it was happening, we all did, but I genuinely didn't realise just how big they've got since I recently had an SE next to my X. The SE literally looks like a play phone for a child - its tiny.
     

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