Apple No Longer Sells a MacBook Pro Without a Touch Bar

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    With the entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro being refreshed with a Touch Bar and other new features today, Apple no longer sells a MacBook Pro without a Touch Bar in its current lineup. In other words, it is no longer possible to buy a new MacBook Pro with a physical escape key directly from Apple.


    The Touch Bar has been a controversial feature since its debut on the 15-inch MacBook Pro in October 2016, with some critics describing it as a gimmick. The entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro was until now a way around the Touch Bar, with its physical escape key earning it the nickname of "MacBook Escape."

    A physical escape key remains available on MacBook Air models.

    Article Link: Apple No Longer Sells a MacBook Pro Without a Touch Bar
  2. JetTester macrumors 6502

    Feb 12, 2014
    If only they sold one with a decent keyboard. Hopefully next year...
  3. bladerunner2000, Jul 9, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2019

    bladerunner2000 macrumors 68020


    Jun 12, 2015
    Get RID of the touch bar Sell and sell a MacBook with a decent keyboard.
  4. HappyDude20 macrumors 68030


    Jul 13, 2008
    Los Angeles, Ca
    Mark my words, I will never buy a Mac with a Touch Bar.

    Glad I got the 2017 non-Touchbar model.
  5. asdavis10 macrumors 6502


    Feb 3, 2008
    Bad form, Apple. Touch Bar is mostly a gimmick. It's nice at times, but for those who use Windows on their Mac, it's completely useless. This is about driving up ASPs. Bad form. And I'm a shareholder. Also, I'm Typing this from my 13" MBP sans Touch Bar.
  6. caliguy macrumors 6502


    Jun 12, 2005
    While I think the Touch Bar is a mostly useless gimmick, I love a cleaner product line.
  7. mpick92 macrumors newbie

    Sep 9, 2010
    I like how the MacBook Air has Touch ID with function keys. Should go ahead and make that the standard.

    I much prefer physical keys for quickly changing volume/brightness on my Mac laptops.
  8. newyorksole macrumors 68040

    Apr 2, 2008
    New York.
  9. coolkid93 macrumors regular


    Jun 6, 2017
    Lehigh valley
    What a joke, if only their keyboards were better rn
  10. LastStarfighter macrumors member


    May 29, 2009
    Hopefully this is to clear out the inventory of touchbar MacBook Pro chassis before the re-design back to scissor key keyboards!
  11. Mr. Dee macrumors 68010

    Mr. Dee

    Dec 4, 2003
    I expect them to eventually drop the Touchbar itself, but this move is to help juice sales.

    Like I said in the previous MacBook discontinue thread, it looks like someone at Apple is taking charge and bringing back some sanity to the product lineup.

    I don’t know about you, but it looks like the past few years of chaos in the product line were due to Jony Ive.

    Now that he is basically on his way out, they are restoring some sensibility.

    Really great to see some simplicity.
  12. waquzy macrumors 6502a


    Sep 9, 2013
    Leicestershire, UK
    The 512GB model went from £1949 to £1999?!? What gives?
  13. Roscorito macrumors newbie


    Nov 14, 2018
    Seeing Apple do this confirms what I think when I look around me and speak to people with MacBooks; the touchbar sells.
  14. Return Zero macrumors 6502a

    Return Zero

    Oct 2, 2013
    I like the idea of the touch bar, but would never want to give up a physical escape key. Maybe they could keep it symmetric with escape on the left, power/touchID on right, and touch bar in between?

    Reminds me of Honda going full touch screen on their infotainment, but everyone clamored for a volume knob, so they brought it back along with a tuner knob on the other side as well, and the result is a pretty nice system.
  15. BWhaler macrumors 68030


    Jan 8, 2003
    Just when we thought Apple had started listening to its customers again, and there was hope for the Mac and apple’s portable line, they do this.

    And still no replacement for the butterfly keyboard.

    Is there really a truth-to-power problem at Apple? Or, can the leaders not see past spreadsheets to market and customer sentiment/
  16. Kabeyun macrumors 68020


    Mar 27, 2004
    Eastern USA
    Please explain. When dual booting Windows in Boot Camp, the Touch Bar defaults to function keys. And if for some reason yours doesn’t, set it to. Are you looking for something else?
  17. nathan_reilly macrumors member


    Apr 2, 2016
    yeah but like, once you see the digital function keys in windows, then voila...thats it. No benefit over physical keyboard anymore...I believe that's his point. And maybe this isn't a big deal for you, that's cool. But there actually is a fair bit of software out there that uses the fn keys...I use CAD software pretty heavily and I tried it on a touchbar but it really slowed me down. Always have to look down from the screen to see where the desired button is. I like the physical feedback of the edge of the key. Solution for me is an external keyboard that I put on top of my laptop. Which annoys.
  18. asrai macrumors member

    May 11, 2005
    Good? Sooo, you like the gimmick?
  19. ikir macrumors 65816


    Sep 26, 2007
    I'm a technician and an IT specialist, Touch Bar is super handy with VMware Fusion for example, for creating Automator shortcut. F keys are there just with a press of a key, but 99% F keys are useless.
  20. ArrayDecay macrumors newbie


    Feb 21, 2019
    Greater Seattle Area
    The hockey puck mouse was ugly and somewhat uncomfortable but it didn’t actually make life more difficult. The Touch Bar, however...
  21. ikir macrumors 65816


    Sep 26, 2007
    I hope Touch Bar is here to stay, is very very handy to create shortcut, F keys are quite useless.
  22. orbital~debris macrumors 6502a


    Mar 3, 2004
    England, UK, Europe
    I’m on board with this for the sole reason it should eventually stop podcasters & vloggers from speaking the ugly ‘nickname’ “MacBook Escape” every other sentence as if it’s some official designation :rolleyes:.
  23. andrew12 macrumors member

    Oct 22, 2009
    Please read the title again for the double negative
  24. ikir macrumors 65816


    Sep 26, 2007
  25. JBGoode macrumors 6502


    Jun 16, 2018
    So it’s good that they no longer sell a MacBook without this gimmick? In other words, they all will now have a Touch Bar.

    Rumor has it that a new scissor switch keyboard will be released with the next Air refresh.

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