Me too! Did your 2017 have the expanding battery issue? Mine did - had to replace the entire bottom shell. I got the 256GB SSD model with 2 ports. Other than the battery glitch - I'm as happy as a clam with mine.
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Apple No Longer Sells a MacBook Pro Without a Touch Bar
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Me too! Did your 2017 have the expanding battery issue? Mine did - had to replace the entire bottom shell. I got the 256GB SSD model with 2 ports. Other than the battery glitch - I'm as happy as a clam with mine.
I really wanted to update my 2013 MacBook Pro with a new 13 inch non Touch Bar MacBook Pro, but they just killed it. Looks like I’m never buying a MacBook until they kill the touchbar and get rid of the butterfly keyboard. Which looks like will never happen
Great news. Mainly because it annoys all the TBW's (Touch Bar Whiners).
No, but really, Apple should just return the physical function row and put the touchbar above it, and release external keyboards with this as well. Then if you have no need for it, you aren't losing anything.
No, but really, Apple should just return the physical function row and put the touchbar above it, and release external keyboards with this as well. Then if you have no need for it, you aren't losing anything.
You really think they will drop the Touch Bar with a new keyboard design? Keep dreaming. This thing is staying for a while longer. All that r&d for 4 years? nah
I have found several ways to make it useful and it's now an integral part of my workflow. If they make the touchbar on an extended wireless keyboard for a reasonable price (yeah right) I could see picking up a few for my desktops.
Yeah, which really makes me boggle when I see people speculate about a Touchbar-equipped Magic Keyboard. Trying to use a TouchBar on a desktop setup would be even more awkward.
I'll never buy a keyboard that lacks a physical Esc key, though. My next laptop will have to be an Air, I guess, if Apple don't come to their senses on this issue.
I HATE the Touch Bar. I hated it when it was announced. I hated it when it was released and my friend upgraded. I waited for the next release to hopefully make the high-end MBP have the TB be optional, but it wasn't. I caved and bought it.
I really hate the Touch Bar and never use it outside of volume and brightness. The shortcut keys for esc, volume, spaces, brightness, etc, were so much better.
I really hate the Touch Bar and never use it outside of volume and brightness. The shortcut keys for esc, volume, spaces, brightness, etc, were so much better.
I hear you. In my CAD software, the function keys control camera/viewport functions. Throughout the design of a part, I'm constantly moving the camera around, so it's not just an occasional tool. Very real impact on how quickly I can move around and see my work.
The Tesla example is good, too, because of course ya gotta try to design a car UI (dashboard as a whole, both physical and virtual buttons) that minimizes eyes off the road time for the most common tasks. And its gotta be easily understandable in daytime and night.
I, like you, am bothered by the hyperbole. It is NOT useless, and is in fact quite neat. Personally I feel like there was room for a touchbar ABOVE the function keys, though...best of both worlds imo.
why would you buy something you just hated the moment you saw it? Having an open mind is good with things but just plain out hating it before you even bought it doesn't sound too healthy.
Using the caps lock screws with your muscle memory.
And not having real tactile function and escape keys is a no-go if you work in the terminal a lot.
It’s about driving up ASPs to deliver features previously reserved for higher-end models on the least expensive model?
I suspect you’re right. Life under Jeff Williams really might be pretty good, as an Apple customer. We may even see a return to a Jobs like product matrix where each major product type that Apple sold had a clearly delineated consumer and pro version.
I wonder if we’ll also see computers easier to repair and to recycle? I suspect that Ive’s obsession with thinness and clean lines might be on the way out.
I’m looking forward to Apple’s ‘baroque’ period!
In other words, it is no longer possible to buy a new MacBook Prowith a physical escape key directly from Apple.
This is what kills me. Replace all the F keys, sure. But ESC is a real key that many professionals, especially programmers, need to hit countless times every day. Just give me a key.
You’re seriously concerned about this or are you just jerking our chain? That’s only 0.25% inflation,yoy.
Looking at the UK prices and new model lineup, it seems to have been created to inflate prices.
But the fact they STILL only offer the Vega graphics options on the top pre spec 15” Core i9 machine is a joke, want the base version of that with 32GB ram, as you can’t add any, and that Rio Vega GPU option? That’ll be £3474 to you sir..
Or around only £70 cheaper then the base config Surface Studio 2..
Yeah Apple has gone pretty nuts with its laptop pricing over the last few years.
As for the new baseline 13” models, I think offering a quad core 1.4GHZ GPU is a joke personally for that starting price.
But the fact they STILL only offer the Vega graphics options on the top pre spec 15” Core i9 machine is a joke, want the base version of that with 32GB ram, as you can’t add any, and that Rio Vega GPU option? That’ll be £3474 to you sir..
Or around only £70 cheaper then the base config Surface Studio 2..
Yeah Apple has gone pretty nuts with its laptop pricing over the last few years.
As for the new baseline 13” models, I think offering a quad core 1.4GHZ GPU is a joke personally for that starting price.
That’s pretty disingenuous. 69.9% of the respondents would never consider a Touch Bar or only do so if it was significantly improved.
My guess is that Apple’s own data shows that the function keys are rarely used by the bulk of MacBook users. The touchbar is essentially a more versatile row of function keys. It’s like your iPad onscreen keyboard in a sense, changing its layout as the situation dictates.