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The US has has an on going idiotic Middle East agenda for decades. It was idiotic under Obama. It was idiotic under Bush jr. It was idiotic under Clinton. It was idiotic under Bush Sr. it was idiotic under Reagan.... need I go on?

What Trump is proposing is to dial up idiocy ten levels.

But I get it. You brought up Obama because if I'm calling out Trump's stupidity. Then I must be for the "other side" right?

All presidents take vacations. The US Gov't does stop because they are playing golf or sipping a martini. That's the problem today, we expect the office of the president to be the King of The US. The president isn't "presidential" if he isn't seen on camera for every frigging event. Events that we have multiple departments to handle.

I bring Obama up generally because it was disgusting. I understand they need a vacation, but he took a LOT of vacations. And typically a quick break from vacation to address an American being beheaded, or a club full of Americans being shot up....just say something! He had no problem taking those breaks to make anti cop statements before any actual determinations were made on the incidents.

Overall, the government fails and fails both sides of the fence. Many said we need something different than what we've been getting, and now we have it. I wish we could all give the guy some room to follow through on what he said he would do and judge the results instead of beating him up every step of the way. Even Bush Jr was given the opportunity to work before they went to town on him (deservedly so).

Trump is racist because people say he is with no actual evidence. Xenophobic because it's another good word to say, fear of people from other countries, even though he married 2 of them. Every word he says is reported way out of context and when he goes out to rally to state his message directly to the people, he's an egomaniac and is campaigning. Travel ban equals Muslim ban. The wall is divisive. Doesn't pay his fair share when it shows he pays a higher share than most that preach about the fair share. They protest for women's rights, he hasn't done anything with women's rights, but is adding to maternity leave and has been proven to pay women equal pay in his own workplace. It goes on and on and on and wouldn't be as ridiculous if so much of it wasn't flat out lies by news media that is supposed to be impartial. Give it a break already.
 
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I bring Obama up generally because it was disgusting. I understand they need a vacation, but he took a LOT of vacations. And typically a quick break from vacation to address an American being beheaded, or a club full of Americans being shot up....just say something! He had no problem taking those breaks to make anti cop statements before any actual determinations were made on the incidents.

Overall, the government fails and fails both sides of the fence. Many said we need something different than what we've been getting, and now we have it. I wish we could all give the guy some room to follow through on what he said he would do and judge the results instead of beating him up every step of the way. Even Bush Jr was given the opportunity to work before they went to town on him (deservedly so).

Trump is racist because people say he is with no actual evidence. Xenophobic because it's another good word to say, fear of people from other countries, even though he married 2 of them. Every word he says is reported way out of context and when he goes out to rally to state his message directly to the people, he's an egomaniac and is campaigning. Travel ban equals Muslim ban. The wall is divisive. Doesn't pay his fair share when it shows he pays a higher share than most that preach about the fair share. They protest for women's rights, he hasn't done anything with women's rights, but is adding to maternity leave and has been proven to pay women equal pay in his own workplace. It goes on and on and on and wouldn't be as ridiculous if so much of it wasn't flat out lies by news media that is supposed to be impartial. Give it a break already.

Ok. First I am not sure when the last president took a break from a vacation to say something anti-cop. I could be wrong, if so feel free to correct me.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't have a need for the president to address me when tragedy happens.

You all wanted "something different".... so you chose someone, for the highest executive public office, that has NEVER served the public?!??

Trump is Trmp's own worst enemy. Everybody is all over him because he can't shut the F up for a minute. He is a thinned skinned crybaby.
 
I bring Obama up generally because it was disgusting. I understand they need a vacation, but he took a LOT of vacations. And typically a quick break from vacation to address an American being beheaded, or a club full of Americans being shot up....just say something! He had no problem taking those breaks to make anti cop statements before any actual determinations were made on the incidents.

Overall, the government fails and fails both sides of the fence. Many said we need something different than what we've been getting, and now we have it. I wish we could all give the guy some room to follow through on what he said he would do and judge the results instead of beating him up every step of the way. Even Bush Jr was given the opportunity to work before they went to town on him (deservedly so).

Trump is racist because people say he is with no actual evidence. Xenophobic because it's another good word to say, fear of people from other countries, even though he married 2 of them. Every word he says is reported way out of context and when he goes out to rally to state his message directly to the people, he's an egomaniac and is campaigning. Travel ban equals Muslim ban. The wall is divisive. Doesn't pay his fair share when it shows he pays a higher share than most that preach about the fair share. They protest for women's rights, he hasn't done anything with women's rights, but is adding to maternity leave and has been proven to pay women equal pay in his own workplace. It goes on and on and on and wouldn't be as ridiculous if so much of it wasn't flat out lies by news media that is supposed to be impartial. Give it a break already.

Wow, really? :confused:

You do know that Obama actually took far less vacation time than his predecessor did right? There's already been a post covering the vacation time & exorbitant cost his successor has already incurred.

Also the incidents you refer to happened during vacation, similar to the previous president as well. Presidents are always taking heat for things that happen during their vacation and they don't respond 5 minutes after it happened. It happened with Bush, it happened with Obama. The supposed anti cop rhetoric, that was such partisan hackery it depended on the likes of Limbaugh to lead that charge. Inviting Common to the White House, shows he hates cops? Common?! o_O

Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani traced those officers' deaths back to the president. "We’ve had four months of propaganda, starting with the president," he said on "Fox News Sunday" that month, "that everybody should hate the police." Our Fact Checker gave that assertion four Pinocchios, meaning it lacked any truth. That verdict was supported by a look at what Obama had actually said, and found no evidence that he'd said anything of the sort. (That article also includes a comment from Joe Walsh, arguing that Obama was to blame.)

Beauty & outrage are truly in the eye of the beholder.

Why the scrutiny on Trump early on? Because it's the same scrutiny we give every president early on. It's known as the first 100 days. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/a-presidents-first-100-days-really-do-matter/

You seriously aren't going to go with "Every word he says is reported way out of context". 45's own spokespeople can't report his own words in context. Really, air quotes for "wires tapped"? "Microwaves"? The worst thing that happens for 45 is the press reports in his very own words. But hey, when it doesn't go over well, it's that 'dishonest media'.

If that something different you wanted was a politician who blatantly & bold faced lied to you and isn't ashamed about it... congratulations you got it.

http://www.salon.com/2017/03/16/oh-...ct-repealing-obamacare-will-have-on-his-base/

http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/trump-will-order-taxpayer-funds-redirected-border-wall

http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/28/news/economy/donald-trump-child-care/

But hey, it's only lies when he doesn't like the news...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ey-made-him-look-good/?utm_term=.82f18ef798ac

o_O
 
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I bring Obama up generally because it was disgusting. I understand they need a vacation, but he took a LOT of vacations. And typically a quick break from vacation to address an American being beheaded, or a club full of Americans being shot up....just say something! He had no problem taking those breaks to make anti cop statements before any actual determinations were made on the incidents.

Overall, the government fails and fails both sides of the fence. Many said we need something different than what we've been getting, and now we have it. I wish we could all give the guy some room to follow through on what he said he would do and judge the results instead of beating him up every step of the way. Even Bush Jr was given the opportunity to work before they went to town on him (deservedly so).

Trump is racist because people say he is with no actual evidence. Xenophobic because it's another good word to say, fear of people from other countries, even though he married 2 of them. Every word he says is reported way out of context and when he goes out to rally to state his message directly to the people, he's an egomaniac and is campaigning. Travel ban equals Muslim ban. The wall is divisive. Doesn't pay his fair share when it shows he pays a higher share than most that preach about the fair share. They protest for women's rights, he hasn't done anything with women's rights, but is adding to maternity leave and has been proven to pay women equal pay in his own workplace. It goes on and on and on and wouldn't be as ridiculous if so much of it wasn't flat out lies by news media that is supposed to be impartial. Give it a break already.

If you've been paying attention to the news, you'd know that Trump is on pace to have taken far more vacations than any other President...and he's been in office under 100 days.

A report came out that while an Obama Hawaii vacation cost taxpayers $3.5M (not nothing obviously, still a lot for personal expenses), Trump's vacations in total already cost over $97M!!!

I wonder what's more disgusting.
 
Legally, he can block anyone from entering this country. People just don't seem to understand this.
Well, he can't. Not if a court says that it is illegal. Like a ban issued because of the dangerous threat from people coming from country X, while not having one bit of evidence for that threat.
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Why is it that when this President does this, it makes top headlines but when many presidents before him have done the same, no one seems to remember?
Well, Obama didn't. Obama created a list of countries where visa applications should be checked a bit better. Trump took that list for a completely unjustified travel ban, and then blamed Obama for it.

BTW. The British GCHQ (about the same as NSA in the USA) just called Trump accusations "nonsense" and "utterly ridiculous". That's one of the world's most serious institutions, and they call Trump "utterly ridiculous". I think no US president before him had _that_ particular honour.
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And it will all be overturned soon enough, again, as he has legal authority.
Either you are not American, so you can't be expected to know how US laws work, or the US school system is worse than I ever believed, or it's your personal fault for not listening to your teachers. The US president is not a dictator or an absolute monarch.
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And while Iran has declared America to be a mortal enemy, they also signed a nuclear agreement with a group of countries that included the U.S.. And more importantly, Iran has long stopped terrorist attacks in the West, there is no ISIS in Iran.
One good reason for no ISIS in Iran is that there are (at least) two kinds of muslims (Sunni and Shia), and the Shia muslims in Iran are _just_ a little bit higher on ISIS' "people to kill" list than Christians and everyone else.
 
It's illegal in the US.

He doesn't have the AUTHORITY to establish a religion by picking and choosing people based on religion, since it violates the first amendment against the establishment of a religion.

The first amendment supersedes any other law.

Which part didn't you understand?
It's not illegal. What part of this do YOU not understand? ANYONE, no matter WHO OR WHERE FROM.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

"(f)Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President


Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.
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Again, the above if fact, the President has 100 percent absolute authority.

And please, don't bother responding anymore, I am not going to continue to go back and forth, it's clearly WRITTEN INTO THE LAW. If you decide to IGNORE THIS, that's YOUR problem.
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The ban is to ban people that cannot be adequately vetted. The real facts are that we may be letting in terrorists because we cannot determine with our current policies who are terrorists and who are not. The travel ban is temporary to allow the government time to get procedures in place to protect American's. Trump never said he hated muslims, he said he would stop muslim terrorists. A big difference if you care to look at the facts and not just listen to the fake media trying to take down our President.

Oh and Obama implemented the same ban on the same counties with absolutely no opposition, or letters from Apple. This has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with judicial overreach and the desire to destroy the balance of power in the Constitution on behalf of anti-American activists.

If Apple wants to be anti-american, then I think they should full well send another letter. It would tell us the true nature of Apple's leadership.
They don't get it, and never will.
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And there ya go. The hope that fellow Americans get the worse in life, things get worse means people get broke and homeless, many lose their jobs, companies go out of business, and hey maybe a few thousand people die as a cherry on top for you just so you can beat your chest and yell from your rooftop that you were right? I could tell your a really good person.

Thank God the total opposite just keeps proving people like you wrong over and over, he's brought jobs in even before he took office, companies are coming back which will bring even more jobs, the market continues to hit record highs despite what everyone predicted, and he is just getting started.

You may not know that though sitting in your parents basement on food stamps watching CNN all day while the world is happening around you. Why don't you just close your laptop for awhile and go back to your video games and let the adults talk about adult things now.
The fact that he wants Trump to screw up enough to damage this country says all I need to know about him. I'm done feeding them.
 
Don't know? Political positions based on fake news is completely beyond my ability to understand. Hopefully, Cook sees that he should focus on things that effect Apple, and should not be responding to fake news and other anti-American activities. He wants to stand up for unlimited immigration because that gives Apple cheap workers, I am fine that with as long the resulting policies do not allow terrorists to invade and kill hardworking American citizens.


I tend to agree with you. I hope MR does a follow up story. I'm glued here.
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It's not illegal. What part of this do YOU not understand? ANYONE, no matter WHO OR WHERE FROM.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

"(f)Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President


Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.
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Again, the above if fact, the President has 100 percent absolute authority.

And please, don't bother responding anymore, I am not going to continue to go back and forth, it's clearly WRITTEN INTO THE LAW. If you decide to IGNORE THIS, that's YOUR problem.
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They don't get it, and never will.
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The fact that he wants Trump to screw up enough to damage this country says all I need to know about him. I'm done feeding them.


But if that's the case why did Apple join the brief? It's a head scratcher.
 
I tend to agree with you. I hope MR does a follow up story. I'm glued here.
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But if that's the case why did Apple join the brief? It's a head scratcher.
Beats the hell out of me but people need to pay very close attention to that section of the law, it states for any reason, anyone. This is just simple fact.
 
Yawn...This will be the last response to you on this as, again,
What's interesting about it? It's fact.

Its listed on Foxnew under a section called opinions. Also something can be interesting even if its a fact. Lots of facts are interesting.
 
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Please link where you 'hear' such a thing.
ON Fox Noise of course. The idea is not out of bounds because the rulings were political not legal and impeachments are political. Clinton was impeached but not convicted because it was political. Nixon was impeached and resigned because he saw the political winds on his own side turn. We ended up with our first appointed President.
 
Yeah, let's hope every country will be designing and manufacturing their own smartphones and American global companies like Apple will be shrunk back to serve only their own national market. Is that what you mean?

Seriously, you need to spend some more time understanding what you are talking about. We don't require a global corporate fascistic police state run by a minuscule (as well as obscure) elite minority of Kazarian psychopaths in order for any company to do business outside the country of its origin.

Globalism is only benefitting an extremely small portion of humanity. And I take you are not a billionaire since you hang around here so why be passionate about something that is designed to suck out your life energy for the benefit of a criminal racket?


This video is a few years old, today's situation is guaranteed much much worse.

globalism-nwo.png
 
The last ruling on the ban wasn't overturned...

We shall see about this one soon!


That circuit (the 9th) is known as the 9th Circus among lawyers, due to its routine and sometimes comical judicial overreach. This will be overturned, as the majority of their rulings are.
 
The last ruling on the ban wasn't overturned...

We shall see about this one soon!
The last travel ban was never brought before the Supreme Court, therefore the fact the ruling wasn't overturned is irrelevant. It likely would have been. They thought it would be faster to simply change the parts that the judges took exception to, and try again, rather than have the ruling appealed. Turns out, it really didn't matter what was in the bill.
 
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