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I get it Apple could have been more clear about the changes they made to power management but that doesn't mean they were slowing peoples phones down get them to buy new ones.

That’s true. And it would be largely pointless to make that argument in court (with all of the class action lawsuits going on). But Apple nonetheless did a disservice to its customers by not saying anything about it to begin with. I replaced my 6s with a 6s Plus because it was so slow. And my iPhone 6s wasn’t even 2 years old. And now my 6s Plus is laggy. It is a pain.
 
But to be honest, it is Apple’s fault for not even informing its customers about that. They got themselves to blame. And many people did think that there phones just got slower because of updates over time. Why Apple never bothered mentioning it is unknown but sales could be a factor
 
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Not enough in my opinion.

If i had bought a new iphone because my old one was throttled I'd be straight up to the small claims court.
 
Wow, way to completely avoid the issue by replacing it with a non-existent one.

News flash: iPhones (excluding the X) cost as much as their competitors. The only thing stopping Apple from placing higher quality batteries in their devices is to satisfy profit margins, aka greed.

Also, thanks for LITERALLY proving your original quoted post as nothing more than mere apology; you admitted higher quality batteries exist. :p
Once again, what does Apple owe you? A big fat NOTHING.

Curious, you have an iPhone? Apple products? I think we both know the answer that....

News Flash: Apple is a publicly traded for profit company. Their purpose is to MAKE MONEY.
 
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Great news and I hope we continue to see more. Their damage control by offering a cheaper replacement battery for ONE year was ridiculous. In doing so they just are going to make more money. Nobody should be shocked by any of this from smug Apple. Yet apologists will defend Apple purposely gimping their devices:rolleyes:.
 
So those folks are all OK with their phones instantly shutting off when they open Facebook?


Thats not the issue, nice try though. No one is OK with a fairly new phone going from 40% to shutting off. Also, no one is OK slipping code to adjust the performance all the while keeping it quiet and denying there was a battery/electroinics problem. That is the issue. They have done something different with the batteries or the hardware controlling/monitoring them, or the processors that they created just pull way too much current. Pick your poison but hiding these 'fixes' and problems from the customer is what they are ultimately going to pay for. Not under clocking the processor when they had to.
 
Facebook is a bigger battery drainer than anything Apple produced. Why aren't they included in a class action suit for having microphones running to listen to you to aim advertising at you? I mean seriously.

Don't use the app then and, instead, use the browser which I happen to do. There are also alternative light apps for accessing FB.
 
It's nauseating to realize how many people here said it DIDN'T HAPPEN! Countless people and posts screaming that Apple was being needlessly burned at the stake for something that literally WAS NOT HAPPENING... Yet, surprise, surprise, it was!! I think Apple even denied it at one point - surprise, surprise, they lied! Now, watch the magic of the chorus turning from it never happened to, it did happen and thank god it did! All hail TC!

Nobody is saying it “DIDN’T HAPPEN;” obviously it DID HAPPEN. What people are saying is that Apple is not slowing down phones to force upgrades. As has been said many many many times, Apple implemented the throttling to prevent unexpected shutdowns. Now you can argue that they should use bigger batteries or should have been more transparent, and that’s fine. But what you can’t do is claim that those who have been pushing the “planned obsolescence” theory are correct; none of the evidence supports that.
 
Thats not the issue, nice try though. No one is OK with a fairly new phone going from 40% to shutting off. Also, no one is OK slipping code to adjust the performance all the while keeping it quiet and denying there was a battery/electroinics problem. That is the issue. They have done something different with the batteries or the hardware controlling/monitoring them, or the processors that they created just pull way too much current. Pick your poison but hiding these 'fixes' and problems from the customer is what they are ultimately going to pay for. Not under clocking the processor when they had to.

exactly. they didn't want to have to contradict their "limited serial range" mentioned here https://www.apple.com/support/iphone6s-unexpectedshutdown/
 
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Once again, what does Apple owe you? A big fat NOTHING.

Curious, you have an iPhone? Apple products? I think we both know the answer that....

News Flash: Apple is a publicly traded for profit company. Their purpose is to MAKE MONEY.


Theses comments are great! When losing an argument, refer to old "you don't really own apple products do you?" post. LOL
 
Exactly, I just had a look at the 5S battery, seems like it's made by the same company, if that's the case it should have the same quality.

It's not the battery quality, it's the size. The 6 is a much larger phone with a larger more power hungry screen and a powerful power hungry CPU, yet the battery is a tiny bit bigger, and the 6s battery is smaller than the 6.

All rechargeable batteries degrade with age; Apple chose batteries with no overhead to continue to power the phone when the battery was slightly degraded but still healthy by the normal standards.

It's not a problem with the battery itself, it's that Apple has a major design flaw where they used the wrong battery for the phone.
 
Exactly, I just had a look at the 5S battery, seems like it's made by the same company, if that's the case it should have the same quality.

The difference is that the 5s has an older slower processor, which thus requires less power output from the battery to run at typical performance level, as well as needed less frequent recharge cycles, thus extending the life of the battery.
 
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Thats not the issue, nice try though. No one is OK with a fairly new phone going from 40% to shutting off. Also, no one is OK slipping code to adjust the performance all the while keeping it quiet and denying there was a battery/electroinics problem. That is the issue. They have done something different with the batteries or the hardware controlling/monitoring them, or the processors that they created just pull way too much current. Pick your poison but hiding these 'fixes' and problems from the customer is what they are ultimately going to pay for. Not under clocking the processor when they had to.

They aren’t going to be paying for anything, at least not via these ridiculous lawsuits. The onus is on the plaintiffs to prove that Apple deliberately slowed down phones to force upgrades, and that the throttling led directly to people buying new phones. Even if either/both were true, proving it is nearly impossible.
 
We at Apple created this battery management feature to have a more positive impact on your environment, health and safety.

Case Closed
 
My son's old iPhone 5 shuts down all the time. Wish it was eligible for the power management feature! Apple is in the right here.
 
And whether or not Apple loses the lawsuit, batteries will continue to degrade and either performance will decrease or it will shut down. Ask Nexus 6P owners about the shutdowns and if they’d rather have a slower phone.
 
You say this as if it's always been a reality of iPhone ownership. It hasn't been. For some reason around the time the iPhone 6 arrived Apple suddenly seemed to have issues and concerns about battery degradation. What exactly caused this is unclear, but I'd love to get the answers one day.

Did they start using cheaper batteries? Did they realize they shipped a lot of faulty batteries, and instead of owning up to it they tried to fix it via software?

Do you have the stats to prove this? I have no idea whether or not these issues were present before the iPhone 6, and neither do you. For all we know it may have been worse for the 4/4s/5/5s.
 
I have a Microsoft Lumia 650, more than 3 years old. It is just as speedy as bought new. The battery has to be charged around 2 times a day by now, which is normal for a >3 year old battery, but there is no throttling at all. On top of that: The battery is user replaceable and only costs 20 bucks. The whole situation with the Nokia battery is completely transparent. Explain to me why I have to file a lawsuit against Microsoft?

Explain to me why you’re not smart enough to replace the $20 battery so you don’t have to charge it 2x a day??
 
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