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This is clearly written from the perspective of inexperience. With MacBooks, iPads, and iPhones, all having their most critical computing components all on one single logic board (and with batteries and screens that are a nightmare to replace), AppleCare+ is a no-brainer. In the past year, I've had to have a 2020 MacBook Air's logic board replaced because the thing wouldn't boot. I'd have been screwed without AppleCare+. The thing would've been a paperweight and the cost to repair it would've been the machine's used value on eBay. No brainer. The losing bet is if you DON'T get it and something bad happens. Best case scenario, you get it and never need it.

Besides, when spending so much money on Apple products, peace of mind that you're covered in the event of a disaster is worth something in and of itself.

On the contrary, I have basic math skills and am able to make purchase decisions without appealing to emotion. AppleCare is a huge money maker for Apple. There are always stories of people who bought a warranty and it saved their bacon, but they are the exception rather than the rule. Besides, if Apple products are so unreliable that extended warranties are must-haves then none of us should buy them.
 
You don’t understand the article. This allows you to extend the AppleCare+ on a monthly (yearly for Macs) basis after it expires, after purchasing it on the original device. It has nothing to do with getting it on a used device where the original owner did not purchase it.
I didn’t say article mentioned that, Apple needs to provide more window of opportunity to get AC+.
 
I have AppleCare on a 3rd gen iPad Pro 12.9" 1 TB. I let my nephew have it last year so I kept the $4.99 AppleCare on it. He's autistic and has broken it 3 times now and they keep replacing it. I guess when it goes vintage they will cancel the AppleCare?
 
AppleCare+ extensions have been a total mess since it first started being a thing. Here's hoping that the 30 to 45 day bump isn't the only change they made for the better!




Umm...Dell does it, so do HP and Lenovo. And you have more than a year. You can do it anytime up until the device in question is five years old and coverage can last up until the device is five years old (past which point parts ordering probably makes continued support a bit difficult anyway). Apple is not special in this regard.




This is clearly written from the perspective of inexperience. With MacBooks, iPads, and iPhones, all having their most critical computing components all on one single logic board (and with batteries and screens that are a nightmare to replace), AppleCare+ is a no-brainer. In the past year, I've had to have a 2020 MacBook Air's logic board replaced because the thing wouldn't boot. I'd have been screwed without AppleCare+. The thing would've been a paperweight and the cost to repair it would've been the machine's used value on eBay. No brainer. The losing bet is if you DON'T get it and something bad happens. Best case scenario, you get it and never need it.

Besides, when spending so much money on Apple products, peace of mind that you're covered in the event of a disaster is worth something in and of itself.
I didn't know that about Lenovo or HP. Granted I haven't bought a Windows computer from a manufacturer in over 10 years. However doesn't Dell charge you a fee for missing the window of their extended warranty, something like $300?
 
I make sure I get AC+ on all my devices now. iPhone, MacBook, Watch, iPad, AirPods.

I guess I'm too old now and can't deal with the stress of faulty/broken items. Not to mention also the cost of it. The few times I've had to go to Apple it has more than paid for itself. My M1 iPad was crashing/turning off randomly (Apple said it was a kernel panic/faulty SoC or memory) and that time the cost of repair out of warranty was about what I paid for AC+. I had another issue later on where I needed it replaced and again I was in/out of the Apple store within about 10 minutes and didn't have to pay anything :)

This is good that Apple is extending the time. I do wish they made it a bit clearer on the coverage period. You get a year standard warranty but for iPhone you're really only paying for that second year. They make it look like you're getting 2 years on top of that standard warranty but no. With my MacBook I decided to pay annually and will pay it every year for as long as I have the laptop or as long as Apple let me buy insurance. I didn't have that option for my iPhone.

iPhone and MacBook is essential to have insurance, imo. I debated whether or not it was worth it for AirPods but it was only £30 so why not!

I don't want to sound like I'm advertising insurance lol but again I just want peace of mind. It's a personal decision for me and it's not right everyone. I get why many people are against insurance. Now I just factor the cost of AC+ into any purchase. A £1,700 laptop is really a £1,930 laptop to me.
 
Ever experienced any issue with it, and I’ve done this multiple times over multiple years


Consider yourself lucky then. I've had this issue a bunch. Mainly with iPads. But occasionally with a Mac here and there.


I didn't know that about Lenovo or HP. Granted I haven't bought a Windows computer from a manufacturer in over 10 years. However doesn't Dell charge you a fee for missing the window of their extended warranty, something like $300?
Closer to $85. And yes, that's a charge to bring your out of warranty system back into warranty without having to go through any kind of inspection. For all they know, your machine is a total wreck and you're paying a fee to not only get that fixed at a flat rate, but to be covered for more than 90 days thereafter.
 
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On the contrary, I have basic math skills and am able to make purchase decisions without appealing to emotion. AppleCare is a huge money maker for Apple. There are always stories of people who bought a warranty and it saved their bacon, but they are the exception rather than the rule. Besides, if Apple products are so unreliable that extended warranties are must-haves then none of us should buy them.
Speaking of basic math skills, you only need to have one incident outside your original one year warranty for it to pay for itself. Considering you cannot repair these things yourself and considering that no manufacturer is either fool-proof nor that there is such a thing as circuitry that is completely impervious to failure, it would seem to be a worthwhile insurance policy to have, unless, of course, you are well off enough that another iPad or MacBook Pro is a drop in the bucket and something you can nonchalantly afford...
 
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Speaking of basic math skills, you only need to have one incident outside your original one year warranty for it to pay for itself. Considering you cannot repair these things yourself and considering that no manufacturer is either fool-proof nor that there is such a thing as circuitry that is completely impervious to failure, it would seem to be a worthwhile insurance policy to have, unless, of course, you are well off enough that another iPad or MacBook Pro is a drop in the bucket and something you can nonchalantly afford...

It’s just a matter of probability. The probability is the typical consumer won’t come out ahead with the warranty, because Apple is not a charity and they aren’t going to lose money by offering extended warranties. I personally have only needed one Apple product repaired since 2005, and it was covered by a repair extension program.
 
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Speaking of basic math skills, you only need to have one incident outside your original one year warranty for it to pay for itself. Considering you cannot repair these things yourself and considering that no manufacturer is either fool-proof nor that there is such a thing as circuitry that is completely impervious to failure, it would seem to be a worthwhile insurance policy to have, unless, of course, you are well off enough that another iPad or MacBook Pro is a drop in the bucket and something you can nonchalantly afford...
I’ve had a new phone almost every year since the original. Never bought AC+. I had one broken screen that cost me $100 on an iPhone 6. How much would AC+ have cost me for at least 15 different iPhones?

My experience and math skills tell me it’s not worth it and this is just using my iphones as examples. I’ve had iMacs and MacBooks and iPads and apple watches and never had the need for AC+. Am I living a charmed life or is this the norm rather than the exception?

The money I’ve “saved” by never buying AC+ has paid for at least one new Apple toy, if not a few, or would have been more than enough to pay for a repair had there been one.
 
I doubt the people who don't renew in 30 days will change mind in next 15 days.
Unless they didn’t realize it expired in that first 30 days. Not everyone keeps close track of these dates.

I just add the date to my calendar so I get an alert a couple days before anything important, such as this.
 
Help me understand please. How is it possible to extend AC+ by 36 months when, as an Apple support person told me just last week, 36 months is the maximum available for a MacBook Pro? Was he wrong? (It's possible - he was wrong in telling me that there's always a service fee to be paid in the repair event. He was confusing repair cover with accident cover.)
I think MacRumors interpreted this incorrectly. 36 months is the maximum coverage period at one time, but you can renew it later, until you decide to stop paying.

The wording Apple gives:

“Your plan coverage may continue beyond 24 or 36 months, on a monthly or annual basis, until canceled.”

…means that those on a 24 or 36 month AppleCare plan (earlier in the linked support page, they call out those who purchased those upfront plans) can extend on A) an annual basis or B) a monthly basis.
 
Unless they didn’t realize it expired in that first 30 days. Not everyone keeps close track of these dates.

I just add the date to my calendar so I get an alert a couple days before anything important, such as this.
Same, if they cannot track 30 days, they cannot track 45 days either.
 
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If you 'really need' insurance they won't sell it to you. If they're selling you insurance then you don't 'really need' it. A little over-simplified adage certainly - your mileage may vary. However I like the sound of what they are intending as it predicates a corporate awareness that things are apparently not going awry. That said I will probably buy AC+ next time (as usual) as I prefer a simpler life and can afford it. Beware insurance salesmen bearing FUD/gifts:)
 
Why does anyone from the EU buy Apple care? The EU law forces all technology companies to give at least a two year guarantee on their products. Apple gave a measly one year guarantee but was forced by law to give at least two years.

What does Apple care gives you above the two year guarantee period by the law?
 
It’s just a matter of probability. The probability is the typical consumer won’t come out ahead with the warranty, because Apple is not a charity and they aren’t going to lose money by offering extended warranties. I personally have only needed one Apple product repaired since 2005, and it was covered by a repair extension program.

You. Got. Lucky. That's all there is to it. Seriously.

These products aren't badly designed. Electronics are simply not impervious to failure and some of them fail. It's also the case that, where other companies might give you several ways to resolve problems without wholesale replacing the logic board (or machine), Apple doesn't really offer much in the way of troubleshooting steps in many of their products.

For anything less complicated than a Mac, it's a matter of restarting, then uninstalling any affected apps and reinstalling, resetting settings, then resetting all content and settings, then a recovery mode wipe, then a DFU mode wipe. If any of your problems persist after that, it's time for a replacement. If you are unfortunate enough to be in that boat (I have been several times), that's what happens, whether or not the hardware was actually messed up.


I’ve had a new phone almost every year since the original. Never bought AC+. I had one broken screen that cost me $100 on an iPhone 6. How much would AC+ have cost me for at least 15 different iPhones?

My experience and math skills tell me it’s not worth it and this is just using my iphones as examples.

It's a good thing that your experience is perfectly representative of all experiences then, isn't it. :rolleyes:


I’ve had iMacs and MacBooks and iPads and apple watches and never had the need for AC+. Am I living a charmed life or is this the norm rather than the exception?

You are living a charmed life. I've owned several Macs, Apple Watches, iPads, iPods, iPhones, and Apple TVs over the decades. I've had to use AppleCare on many of them. These things aren't perfect. They can be prone to failure. It's not this out there crazy phenomenon, otherwise the Genius Bar and AppleCare itself would cease to exist.

It's not like AppleCare solely exists as a money machine to steal money from hapless Apple customers to give to Apple. That's not how things work.

The money I’ve “saved” by never buying AC+ has paid for at least one new Apple toy, if not a few, or would have been more than enough to pay for a repair had there been one.
Let's hope you luck continues. But don't fool yourself, that's all it is.
 
You. Got. Lucky. That's all there is to it. Seriously.

These products aren't badly designed. Electronics are simply not impervious to failure and some of them fail. It's also the case that, where other companies might give you several ways to resolve problems without wholesale replacing the logic board (or machine), Apple doesn't really offer much in the way of troubleshooting steps in many of their products.

For anything less complicated than a Mac, it's a matter of restarting, then uninstalling any affected apps and reinstalling, resetting settings, then resetting all content and settings, then a recovery mode wipe, then a DFU mode wipe. If any of your problems persist after that, it's time for a replacement. If you are unfortunate enough to be in that boat (I have been several times), that's what happens, whether or not the hardware was actually messed up.




It's a good thing that your experience is perfectly representative of all experiences then, isn't it. :rolleyes:




You are living a charmed life. I've owned several Macs, Apple Watches, iPads, iPods, iPhones, and Apple TVs over the decades. I've had to use AppleCare on many of them. These things aren't perfect. They can be prone to failure. It's not this out there crazy phenomenon, otherwise the Genius Bar and AppleCare itself would cease to exist.

It's not like AppleCare solely exists as a money machine to steal money from hapless Apple customers to give to Apple. That's not how things work.


Let's hope you luck continues. But don't fool yourself, that's all it is.

You should buy a more reliable brand if you constantly have to rely on extended warranties.
 
Let's hope you luck continues. But don't fool yourself, that's all it is.
It doesn’t matter if my “luck” continues or not. I’m so far ahead of the game at this point, any out-of-of pocket repair is more than covered by the money saved by not ever buying AC+ on the 20 plus Apple devices I have owned. If the added expense of AC+ gives you peace of mind, more power to you.
 
You should buy a more reliable brand if you constantly have to rely on extended warranties.

I don't CONSTANTLY have to RELY on extended warranties. I've been saved by them enough times to deem them worth having. You haven't yet. Whether that's luck or statistics can be debated for eternity.

It doesn’t matter if my “luck” continues or not. I’m so far ahead of the game at this point, any out-of-of pocket repair is more than covered by the money saved by not ever buying AC+ on the 20 plus Apple devices I have owned. If the added expense of AC+ gives you peace of mind, more power to you.


You must not own that many Apple devices. You might want to put your experiences in context with others. Otherwise, this, like just about every other pointless debate on these forums, becomes about your experiences and whether or not people are in line with them.
 
I don't CONSTANTLY have to RELY on extended warranties. I've been saved by them enough times to deem them worth having. You haven't yet. Whether that's luck or statistics can be debated for eternity.




You must not own that many Apple devices. You might want to put your experiences in context with others. Otherwise, this, like just about every other pointless debate on these forums, becomes about your experiences and whether or not people are in line with them.
Yes, this is MY experience. Why would I care what others have experienced and how much money it cost them? 25+ Apple products costing tens of thousands of dollars doesn’t rate in your book? Whatever dude. Apple doesn’t offer AC+ for your benefit. It’s for more profit for them. You should know that everything they do is incentivized by profit.

I’m sorry that my ‘good fortune’ seems to bother you, or rather I’m the rule rather than the exception since most Apple products won’t need AC+. I guess this is just you having to justify your purchasing of AC+. You really don’t need to. It’s a personal choice. Whether you choose hand more money to Apple is your business.
 
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