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Apple Now Selling 20W USB-C Power Adapter for $19

MrMojo1 said:
Apple wants people to use the USB C cable
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To say Apple WANTS people to use the USB-C cable... I don’t think they care. You can use it if you want, or not. You’ve already bought the phone, I think that would have been their main “care” if anything 🙂 If you don’t use it, and you‘re an ecologically minded person it gets gifted to someone else or just hold onto it when you MAY have use for it in the future OR you return it to Apple for THEM to recycle. If you’re NOT ecologically minded, tossing a cable in the trash is MUCH better than tossing a cable AND an adapter in the trash.

ericwn said:
Apple should offer a chance to bring them back and recycle, for sure.
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They do, for people that are ACTUALLY ecologically minded. Heck, you can bring back any Apple device that you don’t want anymore for recycling, free of charge (or cash back trade-in).
www.apple.com

Apple Reuse and Recycling Program

Learn more about the available recycling options made available through the Apple Recycling Program.
www.apple.com
Follow the link for your country, and you’ll find additional services if an Apple Store isn’t near you. So, ecologically minded folks are covered. For those that don’t care, there’s less in the box they throw away than there was before. And, ”less in the box” is pretty much all Apple can do for folks that don’t care about recycling.
 
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The-Real-Deal82 said:
It’s shifted the burden hasn’t it? It’s no longer Apple supplying the charger and the carriers didn’t offer it before because there was already one on the box. The environment still encounters that charger that wasn’t supposed to be there lol.
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The impact is lessened by phones that Apple sells, which don't come with a charger. Could be the carriers are eating the cost...I doubt Apple is giving away these chargers.
 
ericwn said:
It’s the most important port on Apple’s own devices.
Alternatively:
Shipping an old cable: USB-c users will complain that Apple is not up to date, not going with the time, using the most compact port etc

Shipping both cables: double the environmental impact. Complains on both sides.

Shipping the more modern cable: lots of folks just use their old stuff, a bunch are using the new cable. Probably the least amount of complainers involved.
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Include the USB C charger, even less people complain.
 
I7guy said:
The impact is lessened by phones that Apple sells, which don't come with a charger. Could be the carriers are eating the cost...I doubt Apple is giving away these chargers.
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I don’t think the carriers are giving away Apple OEM plugs but third party equivalents which are cheaper. I doubt the consumer cares as long as it’s compatible.
 
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B4U said:
Include the USB C charger, even less people complain.
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Obviously Apple doesn't care who complains as I'm guessing they would be expecting some backlash on social media. The only way to "wake up Apple", is to vote with your dollars. But I doubt any meaningful universe of people will do that in a way such that Apple will take notice.
 
I7guy said:
Obviously Apple doesn't care who complains as I'm guessing they would be expecting some backlash on social media. The only way to "wake up Apple", is to vote with your dollars. But I doubt any meaningful universe of people will do that in a way such that Apple will take notice.
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Which is why they can essentially do almost whatever they want. However, that in itself doesn't necessarily make it good or right overall.
 
B4U said:
Include the USB C charger, even less people complain.
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I wouldn’t say “less” people, probably “different” people but a relatively similar quantity. There is literally nothing that can be done or said that zero people will complain about. (including this statement LOL)
 
Unregistered 4U said:
I wouldn’t say “less” people, probably “different” people but a relatively similar quantity. There is literally nothing that can be done or said that zero people will complain about. (including this statement LOL)
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Not necessarily as there wouldn't be much to complain there about in that case.
 
Gimme that new watch and phone folding charger@

of course, I don't think it will ready this year
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I7guy said:
I could see the usb-a contingency chiming in.
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Not quite sure what about, and even if they do, seems like those would still essentially be part of the same group that would be doing that now, but only a part, and thus smaller (and not really different in that respect).
 
iksretep said:
Never did a trade-in, but if I do ... will they ding me $19/$29 for not including the charger that came with my 11 Pro Max 512? Or do trade-ins not require cable/box/charger?
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A few months back, I traded in a 6S for a new SE. SE was and still is $399. Apple allowed me $70 for just the phone. I thought about selling the 6S on eBay, but to be honest, it was acting a little screwy and I have a policy of not selling electrical devices that have problem. The 6S at the time was selling on eBay for $100-$130 and I was happy to get $70 on the trade-in.
 
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Unregistered 4U said:
I wouldn’t say “less” people, probably “different” people but a relatively similar quantity. There is literally nothing that can be done or said that zero people will complain about. (including this statement LOL)
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They could have easily prove that move is not motivated by greed and silence all the critics.
Include a voucher to claim a charger as needed or provide a credit for customers who did not claim a charger.
But nope, gonna charge whoever needed the charger for any reason including customers who never had a USB C charger.
Why include a cable that only works with a charger that finally came standard with an iPhone last year AND then remove from said iPhone being sold now?
 
I7guy said:
Obviously Apple doesn't care who complains as I'm guessing they would be expecting some backlash on social media. The only way to "wake up Apple", is to vote with your dollars. But I doubt any meaningful universe of people will do that in a way such that Apple will take notice.
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I am giving them the middle finger by not buying any variants of the 12. 😤
 
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B4U said:
They could have easily prove that move is not motivated by greed and silence all the critics.
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No, there is nothing that will silence critics. If they were silent critics, then would they even really be critics anymore?

There will always be a critic of anything anyone does. The best they can do is to appeal to folks that are more concerned with buying and enjoying your products and less about listening to critics. Fortunately, or Unfortunately, there’s a large number of people (probably well greater than the number of phones they can make in a year) that fit that description for them.
 
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B4U said:
They could have easily prove that move is not motivated by greed and silence all the critics.
Include a voucher to claim a charger as needed or provide a credit for customers who did not claim a charger.
But nope, gonna charge whoever needed the charger for any reason including customers who never had a USB C charger.
Why include a cable that only works with a charger that finally came standard with an iPhone last year AND then remove from said iPhone being sold now?
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There will never be anyway to silence the critics.

Including a voucher would imo, create a secondary market for the earpods and 20w charger, which would have the critics even more up in arms. Providing a credit would eat into the margin and disrupt the fine dance between not raising prices on the iphone 12 and having a net positive impact on the environment.

The reason, imo, that Apple provided a usb-c cable, is the if they provided a usb-a cable the critics would be up in arms about that, so Apple might as well provide the USB-C cable which works with the optional 20w charger.
 
doboy said:
20W is a weird number, I wonder what the specs are. Usually chargers are 5V, 9V, 12V, 15V, etc @ 2-3 A so coming up with 20W is bit odd. Maybe 9V @ 2.2 A?
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I also wonder would my old USB C 18 W power brick still capable to charge the new phone or I have to buy a new one if I decide to upgrade to iPhone 12. It supplies:

  • USB-C Output: DC 5V3A, 9V2A, 12V1. 5A , 18W Max
 
mr_matalino said:
The issue I have is the fact that they are changing the cable too. How many people have USB-C chargers lying around? You‘re apparently are ok being “nickel and dimed“ but when you pay $1k for a phone, it should come with everything you need for it to work. Period. It’s like buying a new house with no lightbulbs. What‘s $100 worth of light bulbs on a $500k house? $1k phone and you can’t even charge it that night without buying something new. C’mon!
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Sorry, I'm not buying it. (Your post). All IP 12 models use a lightning input. Any of your previous block chargers/cables will work fine with ANY 12 (at a slower charging rate). If you don't want the USB-C to Lightning cable that comes with the new phones, sell it on eBay. Speculation is next year's 13 (if Apple has the guts to go with the name 13) will have a USB-C input as well.
 
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In addition to the new iPad Air, new iPad Pro's, and HomePod mini's, both ship with this 20W USB-C Power Adaptor.
 
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